Why Is National Medicare a Four Letter Word

reply to post by branty


No, I'm married with a kid on the way. Due in April in fact. Naturally, I'll do my best to keep everyone healthy but, since this is life, there are no guarentees.

reply to post by octotom


Well, this is just 2 guys talking issues, I truly wish your baby and wife nothing but the best. By the way ...Sean.. is a good boys name , hint

I am all for National health care, and I think it will be best administered by Medicare, which is not for profit, and uses only a small amount for administration. The thing I fear is insurance companies running the show, and deciding what medical care people need, or do not need, instead of doctors doing this. If America stops spending billions on a false drug war, we would have all the funding needed for this program. America has the best health care available, even Kings and Queens come to the US for medical care. Trouble is, most cannot afford the care.

reply to post by infolurker


universal health care works perfectly well in the uk i have never had a probelm with it.
sure waitin lines are bad at times but if ur not dieing whats the rush. might just be me ive got a high pain threshold,but if someone is worse than let them go in first.
at least it dosent cost me anything because if my mum had have to pay for her cancer sugery she either wouldnt be hear now or she would be in massive debt.

sorry about spelling peace batch

After living in Europe for 3 years and seeing what socialized healthcare entails, I will have to say, NO FREAKIN WAY.

There needs to be something for poor and uninsured people available, very true. Socialization is NOT the answer.

You know Branty, I don't often agree with your posts, but this one definately has some merit. As to the posters that think that our (USA) over-bloated health care system is the wonder of wonders, well, you all need to seriously wake up. People talking about under-paid doctors, but don't tell you how much? What exactly constitutes 'underpaid'? LESS THAN 6 figures a year? Gimme a break. If anything, most doctors are OVER paid. Alot of folks don't become doctors to help people, they become doctors to make money, which is ridiculously backwards. Don't get me wrong, nothing bad in making a buck, but priorities are reversed when it comes to heath care folks. I really dislike dealing with any medical 'professionals' because they just don't care. PERIOD. Tell me your woes, sign the paper, take this script, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. As for folks not wanting to pay into a universal health care system, what the hell is wrong with you people? No one wants to help anyone else anymore. Screw that guy over there! What has he done for ME lately?! Geez, can you see how you people sound? It is sickening that no one wants to take care of their neighbors anymore, there's no sense of community anymore, everyone is out for what they can get, 'cause you KNOW that big ass flat screen TV they just got is WAY more important that that guy over there dying from cancer...

Chrono

Nationalization of health care is socialism, and socialism invariably causes more harm than good. That's the short answer to your question, OP. Furthermore, health care is a responsibility. Not a social responsibility or the responsibility of the government, but a personal responsibility. It is my responsibility to take care of myself and my loved ones and that includes footing all the bills myself. It is NOT my responsibility to provide health care for anyone but myself and my loved ones. Nationalized health care will lead to poor service, more government intrusion into our personal lives, higher taxes, and will discourage personal responsibility which will thereby encourage layabouts to continue doing what they do best: absolutely nothing, while they leech on the various welfare programs. This is a bad thing, folks. Don't get suckered again.

TheAssociate

Originally posted by TheAssociate
This is a bad thing, folks. Don't get suckered again.

This statement of yours would probably work 40 years ago when mass media was the only "truth" machine in the country

Some of us here use to live for more then 25 years in the countries with nationalized health care, where your "expertise" comes from, media ?

What if I do not want to pay for 911, fire and police department and military ?

Why should I do it ? Because you think that I should ?

Why should I care if you are in the car accident, your house goes up in flames or gangs terrorize your neighborhood or Canadian (lol) military comes in and invades your state ?

But I do pay for it.

I do because I care for my fellow citizens, because it's what makes us more civilized society and I expect same in return from those same fellow citizens when I'm in great need.

But, hey, lets make more wars in the world and then help them rebuilt, who cares about people here, because we really do not need all that money, who does these days ?