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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984
I cannot make any sense out of your opinion. Because not believing in god is also a belief. That is why this subject of god comes into this question. It's a vital part of answering your question and theories. Ignoring it doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by Sestias
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984
Maybe you should consider this: Millions of people in all parts of the world and in all ages have believed in a power greater than their little selves. They include most of the greatest scientists, writers, philosophers, statesmen, artists, doctors, warriors, thinkers, philanthropists, architects, teachers, and everday people, to name just a few.
But they are weak and you are strong? That must mean you're superior to most of the people who live or have ever lived on the earth.
Hoew satisfied you must feel with yourself.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
No, to not think god exists is based upon a lack of evidence for gods existence. There is no proof and i won't believe in anything that doesn't have any proof. I suppose i was being ambitious in thinking the religious could answer the actual question posed and not twist the thread into asking if god exists as they do with so many other threads. So i also will take my leave, from my own thread. Never really done that before but oh well.
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
All I see is someone who doesn't like the replies he gets, why make a thread asking a question, when you do not want people answering them, you don't like the answers so you tell people to leave. So I tell you I will respect your opinion and leave.
But that's not good enough! so you announce that you will leave instead.
I hope you have learnt that not all people will answer how you want, you do not control people, and you cannot control peoples opinions.
Peace.
[edit on 24-2-2009 by _Phoenix_]
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
I hope you have learnt that not all people will answer how you want, you do not control people, and you cannot control peoples opinions.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
As an atheist you can marvel at the world and be deeply spiritual in what sense? Since when does marveling over physical things equate to spirituality?
Depends on the physical thing. To look at say, a beautiful autumn deciduous woodland, glittering in gold, orange, yellow and red and feeling connected to the earth is spiritual, but does not require a faith in god, an afterlife or anything else. So yes an atheist can be spiritual as long as we use the broad and not narrow sense of the word.
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
It's easy to say people who are religious or believe in God are weak and need a way to cope in the world, but what you fail to realize is that the majority of people who you think are weak have had major experiences with the supernatural. Wheather it was something they have seen, smelled, tasted, felt, heard - or a combination of any of these things doesn't matter because their focus shifts from the things seen, to those of the unseen.
The majority? Care to provide statistics as proof? I was raised a christian and none of the people in my church ever talked about anything supernatural happening to them, and i did ask.
Though science can't test or explain these unseen things - the people experiencing them can't suddenly jump back over on the other side of the fence, so to speak. We move forward - with or without you.
The majority? Care to provide statistics as proof? I was raised a christian and none of the people in my church ever talked about anything supernatural happening to them, and i did ask. I'm afraid that by your logic someone suffering from schizophrenia must be believed because they can feel it.
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
A very wise man once said, "Whoever has something in hand will be given more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little they have."
You see me as weak and I see you as deprived. You contemplate my weakness but I don't often contemplate your deprivation.
Deprived of what? I am perfectly happy, so why do i need god? The fact you have stated that you think i'm deprived goes to show that you seem to need god to fill a whole in your life. If you need that then yes you are weak. The quote isn't that wise, but then again i suppose anything written in the bible is considered wise by the followers. Even the bit that tells you to kill others huh
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
I never said you needed God, only that you are deprived.Lol I'm not the one getting warm fuzzy feelings from looking at ......"a beautiful autumn deciduous woodland, glittering in gold, orange, yellow and red and feeling connected to the earth" and then calling it spirituality.
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
Why is it all okay for you to "connect" to the earth but if others attempt to connect to something else be it religion or whatever we are classified as weak and must have a hole that needs filled? Weakness implies something needs strengthening - not filled. Deprivation on the other hand implies something is missing... and out of the two is the one more likely capable of being filled.
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
This is your thread and you are the one pondering over religious believers in the first place. Are you upset because we don't believe the way you do or are you upset with us because we believe what you don't and you don't understand it - so you call us weak?
Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
I may fleetingly ponder your atheistic views, but not enough to start a thread. And while I'm at it - you want stats on something, google can be your buddy and you can call it all the names you want and I can all but guarantee it won't call you one back!