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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 06:57 PM by Graystar
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Well, that certainly explains why there are so many FEMA concentration camps going up all over the country. I guess the federal government is
preparing to put all the US dissidents behind bars.
But this won't happen Until another contrived national emergency occurs such as a red flag terror attack
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:00 PM by 12.21.12
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Originally posted by questioningall
My question is, why was this not done during Bush's Presidency?
It was done during the Bush Presidency. So here we are wondering why the US is bankrupt. But clearly the US is bankrupt and our only precious
resources we have now is land. Our gold and money dissapeared over time after the establishment of the federal reserve. Think about all the gold that
went missing during 9/11. We are a bankrupt nation now and the PTB are CTA (covering their a**es) meanwhile if there was martial law declared it would
be interesting because the majority of national defense is in Colorado which happens to be one of the states in consideration.
He wrote so many dictorial type executive orders, so why didn't they do it when the states were more at the edge of a dictatorship?
You got me, I don't know. Maybe he plans on making a run for his money.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:08 PM by Dr Pepper
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You should look out for Vermont also. There's been a movement in the works for years.
Here is one example.
Or, Google it.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:13 PM by hotrodturbo7
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Originally posted by free_form
I don't think I'll ever see Virginia up there.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
The COMMUNISTwealth of VA would never do anything to rouse the ire of its sugardaddies in DC. Unfortunately, my own state seems to be firmly attached
to the Fedgov teat as well (thanks Gov. Riley). We will see if the Heart of Dixie has indeed lost her thirst for state's rights.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:15 PM by 12.21.12
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Right so who really controls national defense? Obviously a world power, but who exactly? You want to talk about a conflict of interests. It is
obviously important who to realize who the puppet master would be controlling the Federal end of national defense. Basically we would be outgunned,
but not necessarily out numbered but it would become an all out civil war like never seen before.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:48 PM by kommunist
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Can anybody fill me in to what exactly this means?
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:52 PM by FBI 33
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I sure wish NJ would consider this...These states are taking a good iniative...
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:56 PM by Zepherian
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The solution is decentralization of power, but it is not violence, so people need to be very carefull over the next few months and years. Violence
plays into the totalitarian agenda, so the solution is to eat away their powers.
There are two vectors for this, political power needs to be eroded away and the second vector is awareness needs to be raised up to a point where the
totalitarian structure collapses because of lack of enforcers. 99% of people would not sign on the dotted line if they knew what they are signing.
Same situation in europe, albeit with less potential for violence. The Lisbon treaty is a prelude to tyranny.
So essentially things need to keep going as they are going now, soon the fiction that most people are bad and there is need to be scared will collapse
and people will see the true picture. Yes, there is concentrated evil out there, but most people are simply lied to. Once the web of lies collapses so
does the NWO.
The key, imho, is to keep the shock police off television. That will keep the people's focus on the politicians...
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:03 PM by damagemouse
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knock knock who's there?
john titor!
this totally reminds me of his stuff...star and flag!
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:20 PM by Realtruth
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I agree with your view because the powers that be make money and control if the minions fight each other.
It sure would be nice to see level heads see what is actually going on and come up with a system that is fair for everyone.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:31 PM by Realtruth
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Originally posted by antar
reply to post by Realtruth
Are we simply bailing out the banks like we did the mortgage brokers last time? Is it the final send off or are we going to see one more bailout to
the insurance companies after some major catastrophe first?
Banks/financial institutions only have power because people have faith in them or at least they did.
Think of money or banks as religions, what happens when people lose faith and stop attending church because they found out it was all BS, based on
lies and deception and corruption.
When people as a whole lose faith in anything it stops or ceases to exist, we are seeing the beginning of the collapse of the world financial system.
Is it by design, maybe, but even if it is I don't believe people will ever buy into a NWO or new single system of finance.
With everything that is currently transpiring I see people that have worked all their lives losing everything, so now what are they going to believe
the powers that be? Don't think so.
Everything will be ok. Like I said we have people like you and many other level headed, compassionate people here in the USA and the rest of the
world.
We have to stick together and let nothing divide us.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:39 PM by detachedindividual
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Anything that minimizes the scope of power right now would be a great idea.
As I have always said, smaller communities, less government, localized resources, that's the way of the future.
Give up your iPod, your broadband, your mortgage. Live within a tightly knit community of people who support each other.
Farm, make clothing, build, protect one another, that is the only way our civilization will survive, as shown by previous civilizations throughout
history.
Globalization is a bad idea created by those who want to control the world. The oldest story in the book. The rich against the poor.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:46 PM by tompumped
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I never thought i'd see this happening, i'm surprised the legislation is in process for my state, NY. I'm surprised martial law hasn't hit this
country already, I thought it would've been enacted through the Bush regime and the election cancelled, thankfully I was wrong.
I believe if that last plane wasn't shot down on 9/11 and it was able to hit the capitol martial law would've been declared that day.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:55 PM by PhyberDragon
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Originally posted by mystiq
I'm starting to see a possible manipulation taking place. All this worry about martial law, and concerns brought up time and time again. Then more
recently, threads about someone in Russia showing a map of the US in a year or so, carved up, with California going to China, and the South going to
Mexico, Canada getting the wheat portion, and Russia getting Alaska, etc. This is not a situation anyone wishes to see, thats sane in anycase. It
would mean the dismantling of the US, as has been foretold in other threads.
Now, what if this is a carefully played chess game, with all that information being leaked deliberately ahead of time to make it look like this is a
good thing. Then a crisis, martial law, the break up of the US and the takeover.
People need to really seek answers right now, and find out how to reinstate their collective will before the US goes through any of this. I may not
like the leaders and the puppet masters behind them, but love you guys.
IMHO. You are correct. It is a chess game.
First there is a matter of the pieces. A sublime conversion, Republicans Nationalizing everything, means the Republic is all but dead, converted to
Nationalists instead, with a hierarchy resting at the Pinnacle of God's Laws.
Then there are the Democrats, pushing Socialist agenda's, effectively rendering Democracy dead, converted to Socialists instead, with a hierarchy
resting at the Pinnacle of Man's Laws.
So, the Republican Democracy of Church and State has the Illusion of playing on, when in truth it is National Socialism singing America's Song.
With the pieces Identified properly, let's look at the play. Turn them on one another, while the Vulture Nation's who have been buying up US real
estate and currency, in their planning, come as vultures for her weakened remains. If you unite, you fall. If you divide, you fall.
Did you wake up too late? If you are still arguing your politics, then, you're not awake at all.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 08:58 PM by Brothers
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The way I see things is that in order for the Federal Government to stop this movement is to declare war on some nation and the stand down will die
out. At least for the duration of the war. It will be very interesting to see what develops in the near future.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:04 PM by antar
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I just got a new insurance policy on my home and in the contract it said that civil unrest and rioting are covered. That was very odd...
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:11 PM by Realtruth
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Originally posted by antar
I just got a new insurance policy on my home and in the contract it said that civil unrest and rioting are covered. That was very odd...
Who are you with? I am now going to have them send me my current one now too.
This is very odd because those terms cover a very broad spectrum.
Do you have the exact verbiage? I really want to hear what they are saying.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:12 PM by detachedindividual
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The next enemy will either be Iran or the American people.
Or both.
Probably both.
They have the troops in the region to cover Iran. And if the effort to go to war with Iran is enough, they'll have the support of the idiot
masses.
But, what will it take to convince the American people that a war with Iran is a good idea?
Another 9/11 is on the cards, and it'll have to be bigger, and more disastrous. And it'll probably cover the UK, US and Iran, and allow for
unlimited detention, unlawful practices, torture, and anything else to "protect the people".
Mark my words.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:15 PM by Revolution-2012
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I hope that Oregon declares sovereignty, or are they already sovereign?
I'll have to look.
But anyways, it's nice to see that we have officialy halted the NWO/Martial Law implementation.
I think the Federal Reserve and the rest of the Illuminati/Global Elite have a big stick up their you know what now. The government is aware, They've
looked through their history, and NOW THEY ARE CLAIMING WHAT WILL BE THE SECOND AMERICAN CIVIL WAR.
I see peace in our future, along time from now.
edit:
And CRAP. I'm not in sovereign place.
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