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Fox host: 9/11 truthers are 'mentally ill'

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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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No one said the steel melted. Steel does not have to melt to lose its structural integrity. At all. This is EXACTLY the sort of drivel that is being pressed by so many "truthers" even though it is flagrantly false and a lie. Its been explained by hundreds of professionals, specialists and those with a substantial knowledge on steel structures in fires how steel loses its strength when it is heated up.

And what should you call someone, or what would you call someone who, no matter how many times has to be corrected still uses the false lie and misconception like the steel has to melt before it fails? Methinks the person or persons who continually believe this and continue to parrot this lie must have something wrong in their heads. Period. Its a simple as that. Somehow metallurgists, physicists, chemists, structural engineers, fire fighters all know and say that steel can fail and has failed from fire and fire alone at temps well below the melting point. And no matter how many times this fact is ignored or covered up by the "truthers", the fact remains that steel does not have to melt to fail. But it just goes to show what kind of minds we are dealing with.

Also, no body knows what exactly was "pouring" from the building when it was on fire. It could have been a multitude of things. Aluminum mixed with debris, computers, the UPS batteries, etc.

[edit on 2/6/2009 by GenRadek]




posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by johnsky


Chalk this one up with other retards we've seen from Fox like Ann Coulter (the one that looks like a horse),



not really horses are pretty!



Fox isn't even news ,they pick one pet story ,and report it in real time for a month


all their so called journalists are nothing but fear mongering propagandists, they never report anything without spin
MSN does it too



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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No one should be surprised by this, and I'm sure most people aren't. It is FOX NEWS we're talking about here. They love all and everything Bush, would die to protect his name, and hate everything and anything that isn't neo-con or republican. It's as simple as that.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Mate, a "truther" is a disparaging term for someone who has a different theory than the official verdict.

IMO it is someone who recognises the flaws in the official verdict and wants real answers.

Yes, there are some (lear) theories about holograms and space weapons that are a bit "out there" but this should not detract from the very basic issue that there are more questions left UNanswered than have been answered.

And I speak as a sceptic on this CT.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:12 PM
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why do they call them "truthers"?

why not call them "liars" ?

as i ask myself these questions, i am baffled at the implications





posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:20 PM
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[People who believe that 9/11 was an inside job are just as mentally unstable as the one's who think the planes which flew into the buildings were holograms.]

Holograms? you mean CGI don't you?

Some people say MSM added CGI for the second plane to make it look like a plane hit the building and not a missile.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:23 PM
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Thank you, budski.

Good clarification, there. Now, as to the OP: A bit harsh, to immediately lable someone with a 'different' opinion as mentally ill.

I'd prefer to describe those who 'disagree' with the official story as somewhat out of touch with all of the facts. Because, no one can know everything.

Let's use the 'Miracle on the Hudson' as an example: USAir 1549. Now that the ATC tapes have been publically released, we (you) realize that there are callsigns for various Airlines....in this case, since America West bought USAirways, the America West callsign (Cactus) prevailed.

I've gone on about this before, on other threads....so I won't repeat.

But, just want to say, not to diminish from this crew's wonderful feat....I challenge anyone to find a professional pilot in the same situation who WOULD NOT BE as calm, cool and collected as 'Sully' was. IT IS WHAT WE DO!!!!

I've strayed off-topic, sorry. It was necessary, to make a point.

9/11 "truthers" probably don't understand all of what they hear, and likely draw the wrong conclusions as a result. Not their fault, it's just a lack of knowledge.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:27 PM
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I seem to remember talking with you about that very thing - with some kind of flight sim?

I'm a sceptic by nature, but I have read some things that made me question my scepticism - and surely that's what this site is all about.

BTW, I belatedly added you to friends



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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The comment came from the ultimate sheeple.

When they cannot rationalize the comments in any other way than to
attach emotional morbidity to it; they are truly in the upper levels
of programmed sheepdom.

Feel sorry for the commentator who falls into this state irrespective of the topic he is discussing.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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The bush administration pressured the EPA into deleting important information for the rescue workers at ground zero. ,

The EPA 9/11 pollution controversy was the result of a report released by the Office of the Inspector General of the United States Environmental Protection Agency in August 2003 which claimed that the White House put pressure on the EPA to delete cautionary information about the air quality in New York City around Ground Zero following the September 11, 2001 attacks. According to the report: a September 18 EPA statement saying that the air was "safe"[1] was made without sufficient reliable data available; the White House Council on Environmental Quality influenced the EPA to make reassuring comments to the public; and onn September 12 the EPA Administrator issued a memo saying that all statements to the media must be cleared by the National Security Council.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
en.wikipedia.org...

Several Wargames were authorized/scheduled by Dick Cheney to confuse the only chain of command left to handle the situation


Mayor Guilliani commits perjury(see film above). George W. Bush refuses to give a public statement to the nation and instead opts for a secret pre scripted meeting behind closed doors with his VP by his side.

Bush said it was important for him and Cheney to appear together so that commission members could "see our body language... how we work together."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
www.cnn.com...

Israeli Citizens were in NYC on 9/11 to "DOCUMENT" the event, they were detained and later on released

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
whatreallyhappened.com...

just a few conspiracy facts the public may want to know



[edit on 6-2-2009 by Aubryish]

[edit on 7-2-2009 by Aubryish]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by ImaNutter
No one should be surprised by this, and I'm sure most people aren't. It is FOX NEWS we're talking about here. They love all and everything Bush, would die to protect his name, and hate everything and anything that isn't neo-con or republican. It's as simple as that.



ok. go back to watch MSNBC please.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:06 PM
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ARE YOU SERIOUS? You think Michael Reagan's hate speech about rounding up the 911-truthers and shooting them all.. and specificlly- that he will pay for the bullet to kill Mark Dice is any less of a MYTH than asking everyone on planet Earth to believe dirty bearded Muslims alone can change the laws of physics in example by causing structural steel w/1,510 degree melting point to be evaporated by Jet-fuel w/ a max open-air temp of 279-degrees?
Well hey-------- I not only heard it but also archived it. No diff than pulling the archive from BBC about WTC-7 coming down 20-minutes before it's actual demolition time began(5:20 PM eastern). Nooooo doubt having the reporter in NYC parroting the SCRIPTED NEWS about the collapse of the 'Saloman' bldg with that very bldg still standing just off her left shoulder in her live video report !!!!!!!!!!
ps.. they 'lost' her feed for some reason shortly after recognizing their "PRECOGNITIVE ANACHRONISTIC REVELATION".
tisk tisk tisk....
they aren't prophets !!!!!!! they just follow orders from Elitist command structure and give us glimpses of the "playbook of the ENEMY".
NOTICE:
ALL YOU BLUE PILLS OUT THERE ARE PERPETUATING THE hyper-reality JEAN BEAUDRILLARD DESCRIBED IN HIS 1984 BOOK 'SIMULACRA AND SIMULATION'. Said book not only being a warning to FOX-LIKE-SHEEPLE, but also being a primary source code for the writing of the MATRIX.
and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.- but nobody said the TRUTH would be as easy to believe as the HYPER-REALITY fed to us... like----
"What kind of American would say our own country blew up our own buildings?"
**********GOOGLE: "Project Northwoods"
Read the PDF of the entire 1962 document written by us ( U.S. ) accurately divulging state sponsored terrorism plans in writing....
if you have the courage to read it.
ARE YOU AFRAID TO RESEARCH 'Project Northwoods' ???

please do not allow the FEAR resulting from a sudden and brutally savage realization of how EVIL humans can actually be prevent you from asking any more questions!!!!
...................... fear is the mind-killer.........



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Let's face it a 747 makes one hell of a wrecking ball...It wasn't just the fire that brought down the towers. When those planes hit those buildings with that much velocity and force it literally shook the whole foundation at it's core. Changing the physics of the structure making it weak. I agree that some facts don't add up but I don't believe we purposely caused 9/11. Just like Bush never intended to enact martial law for the sake of retaining power. That Dude literally ran out of the White House...lol.


Yes, I suppose. But how do you explain WTC7? It wasn't hit with any planes and it came down in similar fashion to the other two.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Clark Savage Jr.
 


Clark Savage, good post.

Let's try to extract ourselves for a moment from the angst that surrounds the 9/11 events.

Let's examine Oklahoma City, and the bombing there at the Murrow Building.

April, 1992 (or was it 1993?)

Regardless. Initial attention focused on a possible Islamic Terrorist connection....seems we NOW know that that wasn't the case.

Of course, besides the obvious threats from abroad, we STILL may be under the threat of 'domestic terrorists'....I guess the 'Patriot Act' and the NSA spying program were intended to 'snoop' on this possiblility. BUT, this is NOT what we were sold by the previous Adminstration, that being the 'Bush' Administration.

OK...I riffed....but, here is me, back on point: Are 'truthers' mentally ill??? Of course not!!!!

THAT is not going to provide inclusion in these discussions.

At the risk of repeating myself, IF the brand-new Bush Administration was smart enough to mount a 'false-flag' event such as 9/11, after only about eight months in power, then they must have been the smartest bunch of SOB's ever to rule a government.

Too bad the rest of the seven-plus years didn't prove to be so smart!!!

So....EITHER you think that the Bushies were smart enough to pull off the greatest ploy in Human History, and get away with it....even though they showed NO COMMON SENSE for another seven years.....or you have to realize that there is no conspiracy.

They were NOT THAT SMART!!! They weren't then, they aren't now!!!!









It was 1995.

I remember that day of the bombing.

I used to think it impossible some of the stuff truthers were saying until I started to really look at their arguments. Some of the theories are out there, but the rest of them make sense in an uncomfortable way.

[edit on 2/6/2009 by Jessicamsa]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Let's face it a 747 makes one hell of a wrecking ball...It wasn't just the fire that brought down the towers. When those planes hit those buildings with that much velocity and force it literally shook the whole foundation at it's core. Changing the physics of the structure making it weak. I agree that some facts don't add up but I don't believe we purposely caused 9/11. Just like Bush never intended to enact martial law for the sake of retaining power. That Dude literally ran out of the White House...lol.


Yes, I suppose. But how do you explain WTC7? It wasn't hit with any planes and it came down in similar fashion to the other two.


You realize the damage that would be done to a building on the same foundation as the other building after it came down there was a subway under the building and common sense would tell you would take significant damage when a building came down on top of it wouldn't you think? It was a miracle that water didnt start flooding into the area i watched a show Where they even had to reinforce the bed rock for fear water would eventually flood the area. So even the foundation of the entire area was damaged.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 04:23 AM
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Interesting thread title...

I wonder if those who had prescient dreams about 9/11 might also be considered mentally ill?!

There was a whole slug of prognosticating dreams posted on the net shortly after 9/11.

One was posted by a woman who had a startling dream at 6 am 8 days before 9/11 when she was visiting Chicago. In it appeared a 10 wheel flatbed with sides on it that held hundreds of human body parts, a very gruesome nightmare of a dream.

There were swarms of police and army personnel dressed in blue and camouflage uniforms and in part of the dream everything collapsed like a pancake and started sliding
into the sewer.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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Well it just goes without saying doesn’t it? Unless you believe everything the gov tells you, and do everything the gov tells you to do, you’re obviously quite mentally ill. Not to worry though, there are some very nice reeducation camps we can send you to. Lord god government just loves you that much.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 06:10 AM
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Who cares about being mentally ill?
Look at all the fun the nutters have, running aroiund shouting at people and talking about random stuff. Better than being serious and 'mentally stable'.

There's a fine line between genious and mentally ill...Fortunately I'm nowhere near a genious but am incredibely sick in the head



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by ImaNutter
ok. go back to watch MSNBC please.

Typical response from a "hurt" Fox News lover.


Does it matter really? MSNBC? CNN? FOX News? They're no different than Joseph Goebbels. Oh yes be a real sport and call me mentally ill.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by WhatTheory
[People who believe that 9/11 was an inside job are just as mentally unstable as the one's who think the planes which flew into the buildings were holograms.]

Holograms? you mean CGI don't you?

Some people say MSM added CGI for the second plane to make it look like a plane hit the building and not a missile.



No actually someone, I believe John Lear, promoted the "notion" that holographic planes were used to fly into the towers and pentagon.

Quite absurd but for some reason, some people just refuse to let the idea die it's unnatural death.



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