posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 02:59 AM
My purpose for the post was not to provoke his opponent, to which if I follow stereotypical christian dogma, I'm sure he will be ranting and raving
at me, quoting scripture or calling me out on my belief system and asking me to prove he's wrong.
I don't believe in god, I'm an atheist, but I don't care if someone wants to believe. It is with complete and utter nonsense that most theist post
replies quoting scripture because they are not speaking from their own perspective, they are quoting stories from a 2000 year old version of the
I do get entertainment value out of the posts sometimes however because theists vs. atheists or non-theists as it were usually offer up the same
Non-Theists: Here are the contradictions in your source, I.E. the bible: X,X,X,X,X,X
Theist: The Bible is true, despite your points
Theist: Because it's his word
Non-Theist: How do you know it's his word?
Theist: Because god wrote it.
Non-Theist: How do you know God wrote it?
Theist: Because it's true.
Revolving door. Scientists are the only party in the scientist vs. theist debate who ever ADMIT to theory and will be the FIRST ONES to revise their
statements should they find EVIDENCE that their previous conclusions are false. Theists on the other hand form the same circle I showed above and
quote only one source: The bible.
The Bible in itself is contradictary, unreliable, has over 2,400 different versions worldwide which have each been edited for content over the course
of 2,000 years. If God is so just and true, then how come there are so many different contradictions in the bible that show in one passage that he's
just and kind, then in the following book show that he slaughters children, promotes slavery, incest, torture and various other acts that supposedly
violate the "ten commandments" (Which in themselves are contradictary), and expect everyone to take it at face value at truth?
In any case the burden of proof does not lie within the negative, but with the positive. You have to prove to me that God exists, I do not have to
prove that God doesn't exist. Using this LOGIC I could claim any number of fantastic stories to be true, write a book about it that is cryptic and
fanciful and call it the "Great Flying Purple Super Mario Brothers"
My savior has two sky daddies.
I find humor in the fact that theists try so hard to convert atheists or non-theists, yet atheists do not try and convert theists to not believe, they
merely ask questions for which they require proof to beleive. So which is more hypocritical to you?
Personally I find that theists are more aggressive than anyone else on the planet. Terms like "Oh my god" or "God Damn it!" do not come from
birth, they come from current social language. I find myself saying the latter two sometimes even though I don't believe; it is simply because we
have been programmed from birth to be theists. Lucky for me I grew up not having religion forced upon me, nor any of it's teachings required by my
parents. I CHOSE to go to church for two years during the teenage years of my life when I was struggling for acceptance and understanding of the
world, and I realized that the teachings were outdated, dogmatic and just plain harmful to the human psyche. I did this of my own accord, not by any
So I say to the theist response to my post (which I'm expecting) that I have personally seen the social stigma and psychological effects that early
childhood religious teachings have on the development of the human mind. If you get a foothold on reality early on your own, not much will shake you.
Strong sense of self reliance, a general sense of good and evil, positive moral standing and following the only rule that has not been written down,
"The Golden Rule", Treat others as you wish to be treated and you will lead a long and happy life.
And just in case I get the "I get my morals from God, where do you get yours from?" question, I have this to say:
I know right from wrong, I am a morally good person because I was TAUGHT by my parents that the things I do have reprocussions, and not in hell for
the slightest mistake. In America is is wrong to treat women with disrespect and belittlment, but if you go to the middle east, women are expected to
walk behind their man and wear full face covering in public. They are second class citizens and that is perfectly NORMAL AND MORALLY CORRECT there.
Society chooses your morals, not God. One hundred and fifty years ago it was perfectly acceptable to kill a man for cheating you at poker or calling
you a name. If you did that now you would end up in prison for your entire remaining life. Morals are a product of society and the time in which we
live in coupled with the demographic location for which we were raised.
Besides, even christians were born atheists.
[edit on 7-7-2010 by Kingalbrect79]