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Originally posted by Rasputin13
reply to post by budski
I'd hardly call the regime in Iran a "democratically elected government". While it is true that Iran holds elections and that the current government was elected by the people, it is hardly a legitimate democracy. Hundreds of potential opposition candidates are banned from running. For all intents and purposes, there is no opposition. It's no different than the elections held in Iraq where Saddam Hussein would receive 99.9% of the vote.
And furthermore, the real power in Iran belongs to the unelected Mullah's. Iran's "democracy" is a farce. So in that regard, your comments are nonsense.
Originally posted by huckfinn
reply to post by munkey66
Iran has a secret embassy down in Panther Burn, Mississippi; maybe its Hollandale, but its there.
[edit on 13-1-2009 by huckfinn]
Originally posted by Allred5923
reply to post by Alpha_Magnum
You are mistaken, it is not about "Resources" it is about ultimate control of teh whole planet.
I have posted a couple of videos that would be of interest to you to further your knowledge of these events, and also what the "True" expectancy is of the PTB's of the world.
The reason I say "NAY" on your theory of resources is this:"
3 to 4.3 Billion Barrels of Technically Recoverable Oil Assessed 25 Times More Than 1995 Estimate
We should prepare as a society, it could be in 10 min.'s or it could be in 2 yrs, but the thing not to over look is that "This is for real" and this act only solidifies these events.
Originally posted by jjkenobi
I'm sure the U.S. has undercover intelligence operatives in nearly every country. At least I would hope we do.
Amid widespread speculation that the conflict in the Palestinian territory could spill over to other parts of the Middle East, Bolton added that there is "the possibility of the use of military force possibly by the United States, possibly by Israel," on Iran after the current war.
By 1909, a British company, Anglo-Persian Oil Company held rights to oil exploration in a 60-year concession from the Persian Shah at Maidan-i-Naphtun near the border to Mesopotamia. That decision to secure its oil led England into a fatal quagmire of war which in the end finished the British Empire as the world hegemon by Versailles in 1918, though it would take a second World War and several decades before that reality was clear to all.
The 1953 Iranian coup d'état saw the overthrow of the democratically-elected government of the Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mosaddeq from power by British and American intelligence operatives working together with Iranian agents and elements of the Iranian army.  Kermit Roosevelt, Jr. of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), organized the covert operation - codenamed Operation Ajax -  by aiding retired Iranian General Fazlollah Zahedi and Imperial Guard Colonel Nematollah Nassiri, and bribing Iranian officials, news media and businessmen with British and American funds.
The Iran-Contra affair was a political scandal which was revealed in November 1986 as a result of earlier events during the Reagan administration. It began as an operation to increase U.S.-Iranian relations, wherein Israel would ship weapons to a moderate, politically influential group of Iranians opposed to the Ayatollah Khomeini; the U.S. would reimburse Israel for those weapons and receive payment from Israel. The moderate Iranians agreed to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages, who were being held by Hezbollah. The plan eventually deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages, without the direct authorization of President Ronald Reagan. Large modifications to the plan were conjured by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985. In North's plan, a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua. While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause, there has not been any evidence uncovered showing that he authorized this plan
Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
I see you're the other "RESOURCE" guy, nice seeing you. Regarding Iran it is important to realize what was happening those 30 years or more ago to realize just why the Iranians reject or till recently rejected "Western Ways."
. .. it is my opinion that the majority of the Mideastern nations (even our friends) hate us down to the last fiber because we threw their world into chaos for oil when they were content to ride a camel. The British Empire made slaves of the indigenous population of India (think of Gandhi), there was no Iraq. War by proxy is our game and if that fails or is too slow we invade.
Iran has no reason to trust us and if not for the oil we would not even bother with them. Saudi Arabia used to be all we ever talked about but their oil production has been on a decline so we need to talk about something evil like Iran. The truth is a tuff pill to swallow for the USA but we held a 100+ year empire!
... We can't admit that all we care about is the oil and are willing to kill for it. Instead we create villains of people that at one point or another were our friends. When the RESOURCES decline we enter denial and turn on everyone. We lie to ourselves like imagining that carbon taxation is not simply strict ENERGY rationing.
Well I can understand how Persia rejects the high paced Western race to oblivion.
In twenty years we'll be getting all of our energy from Fusion and Hydrogen. All clean stuff.