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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:47 PM by huckfinn

reply to post by budski

Dude, Iran did try and overthrow the US government on November 6, 2005 and then again in April 2006.

I have all the proof, but I am waiting to reveal it until after the change of power next week. Yeah, Irans leaders are up a creek.

Did you know that the son of the former Shah and the Supreme Leader of Iran are from the same Persian tribe? They started this plot back in 1988, after the last Shah's son overthrew the revolutionary government of Iran.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:54 PM by munkey66

reply to post by huckfinn

why are you waiting to provide evedence?
is your evedence posted on ATS going tp bring down the US goverment or are you hopeing this thread is gone by then?

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:02 PM by huckfinn

reply to post by munkey66

I figure it like this, everyone who is in Government already knows what Iran is doing. The loud complaints about Iran's Nuclear program is cover for what they are really doing: Trying to subvert all the governments of the western and eastern world. They are trying to capture the Son of God and his bride. But GWB can't go on t.v. and say that can he? So they say Iran wants nukes, which isn't entirely misleading, as subversion plots are based on concepts known to nuclear fission.

I saw what Iran is up to with my own eyes, but I've been waiting for their infiltrators to be put out on the street. Which goes down next week. Then Iran will get popped. Big Time.

Iran has a secret embassy down in Panther Burn, Mississippi; maybe its Hollandale, but its there.

The infiltrated US government was already been brought down, didn't you hear about Saddam Hussein hanging from his neck? Dude, darkness is darker than you think.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:08 PM by budski

reply to post by huckfinn

If you have proof, post it - otherwise you're just blowing hot air.

The number of times I've seen posters say they have proof of something only to have nothing beggars belief.

I'm calling a big fat fake on this until you can show different - you know, sources and all, documents, the whole works, not some half baked "theory"

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:16 PM by huckfinn

reply to post by budski

I can dig it, but the proof occurs before your eyes everyday. Its the war, the trial. The old world has already been destroyed. What you knew about the world prior to November 5, 2005 (the day the world ended; did you miss this?) no longer applies.

The old governments, the banks, economic order; all gone and never to be retrieved. Only one of two possibilities has been possible since then and the one that involves and Imamate centered in Iran ain't happening.

Hold on to your hats. You'll get your proof soon enough. It actually amazes me that people haven't learned to be careful what they ask for.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:23 PM by budski

Originally posted by huckfinn
reply to post by budski

Dude, Iran did try and overthrow the US government on November 6, 2005 and then again in April 2006.

I have all the proof, but I am waiting to reveal it until after the change of power next week. Yeah, Irans leaders are up a creek.

Did you know that the son of the former Shah and the Supreme Leader of Iran are from the same Persian tribe? They started this plot back in 1988, after the last Shah's son overthrew the revolutionary government of Iran.

Which is it?

you have the proof?
Or the proof is before our eyes?

And if you have the proof, how can you give it to us when the world has already ended, or indeed, have the proof at all as the world no longer exists, according to you?

You make no sense at all.

Put up or shut up is what I say.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 05:28 PM by huckfinn

reply to post by budski

Its both...Its right before your eyes, but you either can't see it or you don't understand what you are seeing. My guess is that it is a little of Both.

But I see it and because I see, the proof belongs to me and I can provide it to you, who is obviously without a clue to what is happening right before your eyes. As far as the world ending, it did indeed. By this I mean all the old rules no longer apply. If the old rules did apply we'd be getting ready to inaugurate Jeb Bush as 44 and not Obama.

But, I've made enough accusations on this subject today, so I'll take this opportunity to shut up. I really don't feel like the back and forth.

Nevertheless, Iran is dirty just like Bush is trying to tell you. Whether a plot against it was thwarted or not is a smokescreen to cover their own actions.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 07:16 PM by brill

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by brill

Do you really believe that Iran does not try to meddle in our internal affairs? All countries meddle in each others affair, treaty or no treaty..friend or no friend. It is a part of the game they play.

There are people out there willing to attack the US for the smallest of reasons.

Thank you for overstating the obvious. However it seems as though the US excels in this area more so than most countries. The scumbags at the CIA can be thanked for that.

brill

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 10:29 PM by pavil

reply to post by budski

Iran has messed around enough in Lebanon to make this a moot point. They are supporting groups and causing mischief in many areas of the Middle East and Western Asia. There has also been no proof of American involvement in overthrowing the Govt. of Iran, just the word of Iran's funded media, hardly a great source for proving this claim.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 10:31 PM by skeptic_al

Originally posted by budski

Iran thwarts CIA-backed regime change plot

www.presstv.ir

Tehran has disbanded a CIA-backed network designed to orchestrate a 'Velvet Revolution' in the country, says a senior Iranian official.

Iran's Judiciary Spokesman, Alireza Jamshidi, said on Tuesday that authorities have arrested four Iranian nationals who were plotting a regime change at the behest of the Bush administration.

According to Jamshidi, the four were paid by the White House, the State Department and the CIA, to expand their network and topple the Iranian government -- irrespective of the Algiers Accord.

Under the 1981 treaty signed between the US and Iran, Washington is obliged to refrain from interfering in Iran's 'internal affairs'.

Washington, nevertheless, has not ceased its 'regime change' project in Iran and has reportedly appropriated more than $120 million to fund the initiative.
(visit the link for the full news article)

Related News Links:
www.nytimes.com
www.poligazette.com
www.mohammadmossadegh.com
www.serendipity.li

SHOW ME THE MONEEEY

I wouldn't trust Iran anymore than the USofA
But this is something the US would do, and has done in the past.
It does tend to make a mockery out of de-MOC-racy, and the White House
is no better than Iran at being a Dictatorship.

I doubt many people in US would approve of such of a thing,
and yet government believes they have the right.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 10:47 PM by Alpha_Magnum

Originally posted by jam321
I have looked around for the Algiers Declaration of 1981 and it pretty safe to say it was signed. Being that the article states that is a treaty, I have to ask if anyone knows whether the treaty was ratified by Congress? If not, then the US can meddle all it wants.

Here we see the USA blowing hot air once again. Keep in mind that Israel was supplying weapons to Iran the whole time. This is more of that Carter to Regan transition. All about the resources. I do believe it was approved by the Senate. I see your Marine logo and assume that you are a Leatherneck. I do respect those that serve but your leaders seem to have stepped us all off the abyss. Defending oil fields that are not US property seems to be beyond the scope of the US Constitution. I hope PEACE can be declared and our military can be disbanded.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 10:58 PM by Xtrozero

My only question is how do all these ultra top secret CIA misions come to light in the public eye?

They sure are not spending my hard earn taxes wisely being so in adept in not keeping top secrets secret.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 10:59 PM by Alpha_Magnum

Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by budski

Iran has messed around enough in Lebanon to make this a moot point. They are supporting groups and causing mischief in many areas of the Middle East and Western Asia. There has also been no proof of American involvement in overthrowing the Govt. of Iran, just the word of Iran's funded media, hardly a great source for proving this claim.

You do realize that in 1953 the USA created a Coup in Iran and had the Elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mosaddeq overthrown and then had the Shah and his dictatorship installed don't you? All over OIL you realize? Even

In the U.S., Operation Ajax was originally viewed as a triumph of covert action, but in 2000 Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State to President Bill Clinton, made an apology to the people of Iran, calling the coup a "setback for democratic government" in Iran,[5] and one journalist has even described it as having left "a haunting and terrible legacy". [6] The United Kingdom has never apologized for its role in the coup.

In 1980, however, when the Iraq-Iran war began, Iranian representatives met in Paris with Israel's deputy defense minister and worked out a "Jews for arms" deal.

Oh what a wicked web we weave.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:03 PM by Alpha_Magnum

Originally posted by Xtrozero
My only question is how do all these ultra top secret CIA misions come to light in the public eye?

They sure are not spending my hard earn taxes wisely being so in adept in not keeping top secrets secret.

The best response you can get would be from Oliver North. Our guys had things worked out swimmingly with Osama and his Afghan Freedon Fighters. Everything was worked out with a micrometer. He can tell you what went down but bet your bottom dollar that Nixon is still pissed about those tapes.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:46 PM by nastalgik

We might be hearing about this one for a while. If this is true then Langley really screwed this one up and the FSB is probably peeing themselves because they are laughing so hard. Actually I am surprised the Mossad or GID weren't linked. Oh that's right because THEY ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO DO THESE THINGS. When will we ever learn? The Jordanians can basically hold our hand and teach us how to do things and we still fail. How long will our "friendship" with the GID last with this stuff happening? They are our best bet in the Middle East for intelligence even counting the Israelis.

reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 12:26 AM by welivefortheson

i do actually beleive that iran needs a velvet revolution ,its leaders are war mongers,extremists whom are backed mainly by religious sects whom are very much backwards thinking.

i dont think the right way to do it was sending in cia agents,the best way to do it is help fund opposition parties,create opposition parties,empower the people whom are opposed to the regime whilst at the same time undermining the regime by getting the dirt on them and defaming them,showing the world what thier really like.

or as should have been done ensuring democratic elections were fair and legit as i remember that there was great controversy and errors in the elections,but no on seemed to care at that time as i suspect they kinda wanted a bad guy in in order to demonize iran into being a political enemy.

reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 02:36 AM by Monger

Iranian propaganda, nothing more. I feel horrible that so many here on ATS are so eager to accept blatant propaganda as truth.

I'm not saying that organizations like PressTV have no merit from a journalistic standpoint, obviously as one of the few news organizations allowed to operate inside the country, they serve the people of Iran immensely.

Nor am I saying that America doesn't have a history of meddling in the affairs of other nations, particularily those in the Middle East, but anything coming out of a country like Iran with a clear agenda against the West should be taken with a grain of salt.

Their English language website is aimed to do just this sort of thing: spread more hatred for America amongst the English speaking world.

And honestly, would a non-violent regime change in Iran be such a bad thing?

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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 02:43 AM by SR

Iran doesn't need to CIA to help stir up a takeover plot for it's regime it's youth are already tired of the regime.

Iran can blame the West and Usa and Israel all it likes but it doesn't stop the future generation being disaffected at home and wanting to change how in places how they're country happens to be running things.

You can't stop the future....

reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 03:31 AM by NuclearPaul

The CIA involved in a regime-change plot? Never!

New York Times reports Bush administration rejected Israeli request for specialized bunker-busting bombs it wanted for strike on Tehran’s main nuclear complex, authorized new covert action intended to sabotage Islamic Republic's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons

link

Obviously, they have some sort of covert operations going on there. This just seems to be one of them.

reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 03:39 AM by audas