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Topic started on 12-1-2009 @ 06:47 AM by jibeho
Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama said reviving the U.S. economy will require scaling back on his campaign promises and personal sacrifice from all Americans.
www.bloomberg.com...

So, let me understand Obama on this topic. It was the lagging economy and the promises to improve it that got him elected and now the same economy that he promised to change will now limit his promises and result in all of us making sacrifices. No [SNIP].

For all of you hoping for Obama's Universal Healthcare Plan, don't hold your breath. The nation can't afford it. The stimulus plan will suck us dry of all of our imaginary money. I believe Obama will aim for that one in his second term.

Good Luck everybody!! Batten down the hatches we are in for a bumpy ride.

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[edit on 12-1-2009 by sanctum]


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:04 AM by Benevolent Heretic
Interesting and dramatic title. He actually said:


“I want to be realistic here, not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace we had hoped,” Obama said in an interview on ABC’s “This Week” program broadcast this morning.


This does not surprise me at all. In fact, he warned of this possibility before the election. I guess some of you weren't listening. I was.

Originally posted by jibeho
It was the lagging economy and the promises to improve it that got him elected


Actually, McCain promised to improve the economy, too. So, I'm not buying that Obama's promise to improve the economy is what got him elected.

I believe Obama will aim for that one in his second term.


It's possible. Or in a couple years. This is not a surprise to me. He said the same, himself.


Good Luck everybody!! Batten down the hatches we are in for a bumpy ride.


You got that right! It's been coming for a few years now, and we've predicted it here on ATS, no matter who was our next president. It's good that everyone's realizing that.

Originally posted by paxnatus
The headline should read; "Shock and Amazement, Stuns The Messiah Followers"


Not really, though. Because if his supporters were listening closely to him, they should be aware of the precarious position the country was and is in. I know I'm not shocked to hear that some of the programs won't manifest in the first year or even the first term. I'm not "stunned" at ALL. In fact, read the thread. The only ones who seem shocked are his (and our) critics.


Is Anyone other than Obama himself surprised by this?


I don't think he's surprised either. As I said above, he warned of it before he was elected.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
EVERYBODY saw the writing on the wall a long time ago. Everyone except Obama & friends that is!


You are mistaken. What makes you think we didn't see the writing on the wall the same as you did? Especially when he spoke about it himself...

I think you guys would love to see people turning against Obama in droves, but I think you're going to be disappointed. Don't forget, we were listening to his speeches, reading his website. Many of you weren't. That's probably why this is such a shock to you.

Good luck coming to terms with it.



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:15 AM by vor78
reply to post by InfaRedMan



Its not short-sightedness or stupidity (well, perhaps a little of the latter on the part of the electorate). He ran a great scam and people bought it hook, line and sinker. Its been obvious for months that he was making promises that he had no intention or capability of keeping. And now, we're supposed to buy this latest load of crap? Sure, Barack. Whatever you say.

Its amazing how low he and his supporters are suddenly setting the bar for success now that he's won. Oh wait. No it isn't.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:38 AM by jibeho
Regarding Obama's little stimulus plan i.e Govt. interference is the only way out of this problem, i.e. Lets make the Govt. even bigger to control the masses, free enterprise and private business.

Here is a great idea that makes Barry's stimulus package look like a pile of snip.

Is there a better idea out there? You bet there is, and it came from the 1st Congressional District of Texas. Congressmen Louie Gohmert notes that the federal government collects about $100 billion in income taxes every month, plus another $60 billion in Social Security and Medicare taxes. If those of you who are government educated have a calculator handy, you’ll see that this adds up to about $160 billion a month. Now if you divide Obama’s proposed $800 billion stimulus plan by $160 billion, you’ll come up with five. This means that our government will collect $800 billion in income and payroll taxes from February through June.


So, Gohmert asks, instead of bureaucrats and politicians deciding how all of this money is going to be spent, why not let the people who actually worked for this cash make their own independent spending decisions for this money. How would you do that? Simple: declare a five-month tax holiday. From February through June everybody keeps their paycheck. No income tax withholding … no payroll taxes. What will the people do with this money? What, are you crazy? They’ll spend it, that’s what. Talk about stimulating the economy!


Is there a detriment to the Gohmert plan? You betcha! And the flaw is fatal. If you declare a full tax holiday people are actually going to figure out how much they earn. No more of this “take home pay” nonsense. You get your whole paycheck. Now just imagine what happens in July with the withholding starts again.


All I can say is wow!!


townhall.com...


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:39 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by St Udio
Citigroup ... Morgan-S&C

Speaking of Obama .. and speaking of banks ... remember this?
Obama sues citibank .

Obama sued Citibank under the CRA - forcing it to make bad loans to people who couldn't pay - affirmative action style lending practices. Part of the reason that this country is in such a mess economically.

Case info - Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011 State/Territory Illinois

Considering that Obama (and his buddies at ACORN) helped to cause this economic mess that we are in - it's impossible to claim that Obama didn't know what was going on in this country economically. He is part of it all.



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:44 AM by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by FlyersFan



How is it that this has been so easilly ignored? Not just by Obama supporters or by the Dems who let Frank and Dodd drive a few nails into the coffin but also by the people who wish to expose these things?

I never ever hear about these things from any MSM news source when they're doing their typical "how'd it come to this" roundtable.

WTF? He cant deny he did it (and doesnt deny it) or the motivations for doing it and he certainly cant deny the end result of these loans when everyday we hear "banks making bad loans led to this" so how the hell is it so easilly ignored by so many?

It's like blaming Germans for the Holocaust and just ignoring Hitler had anything to do with it.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:46 AM by jibeho
reply to post by FlyersFan



So, Obama the Super Hero creates his own crisis in advance of his pre-selection to become POTUS. Brilliant!! Hey people of the US, you have never heard of me but, I have the solution to this crisis and the solution to many other problems as well.

"Give me a chance, what have you got to lose" should have been his campaign slogan.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:50 AM by jam321
reply to post by detachedindividual



The fact is, the desperation of this situation wasn't known when these promises were made.


Sorry, when Bush asked for the 700 Billion, desperation became widely known. And Mr. Call Me if you need me knew it. Even then he kept reassuring America that he had the plan to fix it. I realize him lowering expectations is part of the game but he was well aware of the problems that America faced.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:52 AM by RFBurns
reply to post by thisguyrighthere



Its called MSM...Massive Sheeple Manipulator. And Obama used it to its maximum MSM effectiveness. A fine example of how easy it is to use media to control, manipulate, sway and program sheeple to do what their will desires.

The phrase "bought it hook, line and sinker" is an understatement.



Cheers!!!!

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