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Topic started on 7-1-2009 @ 01:37 AM by Conluceo

Kissinger: "Obama's 'task' is to help create a New World Order"


rawstory.com
President Nixon's Secretary of State, the aging Henry Kissinger, recently told CNBC that he believes the current world economic crisis is a "great opportunity" for President-elect Obama to help create a "new world order."

"What do you think the most important thing is for Barack Obama?" Kissinger was asked. "... If you had to say, this is going to be the country, or the conflict, or the place that will define the Obama administration, what would it be?"

*SNIP*

"I think that his task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period, when really a "New World Order" can be created. It's a great opportunity. It isn't such a crisis."
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:32 AM by logician magician
Obama will be a great driving force to usher in the "New World Order." He's definitely a forward thinker. I remember him saying how he was surprised at how little debate goes on in Washington, which is probably why he chose such a diverse cabinet so as to foster the dialectic method:


The aim of the dialectical method is to try to resolve the disagreement through rational discussion,[5][6] and ultimately, the search for truth. One way to proceed — the Socratic method — is to show that a given hypothesis (with other admissions) leads to a contradiction; thus, forcing the withdrawal of the hypothesis as a candidate for truth (see also reductio ad absurdum). Another way of trying to resolve a disagreement is by denying some presupposition of both the contending thesis and antithesis; thereby moving to a third (syn)thesis or "sublation". However, the rejection of the participant's presuppositions can be resisted, which might generate a second order controversy.[7]


We really need a centralized government much stronger than the UN that enforce decisions on a Global scale. Imagine if every state in the US had an Army that had the propensity to attack other states in disagreement or set up trade restrictions themselves! It would be chaos just like it is now on a world scale. With a federated government like the U.S, there is basically one chief (federal government) and 50 Indians.

Right now the world consists of "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians" There are about 172 sovereign chiefs with their own tribes doing whatever they wish. We need to restructure the tribes, join them into less and less tribes, and employ only a few chiefs to instruct our little Indians in civilized manners of living.



reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 03:43 AM by Winsor
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I disagree. The world is a scary messed up place for sure but putting that much power in the hands of so few people is much scarier.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:21 AM by andy1033
Originally posted by Winsor
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I disagree. The world is a scary messed up place for sure but putting that much power in the hands of so few people is much scarier.



Exactly the point that goes against a nwo. The world needs opposing sides, just to keep the ultimate authority killing anyone they want. Plus the fact that they never want people to live there lifes, they want to control everything. Just getting into power to help your friends will do nothing for overall peace, thats why america and israel, cannot make peace.

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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 09:48 AM by Mdv2
Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
Originally posted by logician magician
We really need a centralized government much stronger than the UN that enforce decisions on a Global scale. Imagine if every state in the US had an Army that had the propensity to attack other states in disagreement or set up trade restrictions themselves! It would be chaos just like it is now on a world scale. With a federated government like the U.S, there is basically one chief (federal government) and 50 Indians.

Right now the world consists of "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians" There are about 172 sovereign chiefs with their own tribes doing whatever they wish. We need to restructure the tribes, join them into less and less tribes, and employ only a few chiefs to instruct our little Indians in civilized manners of living.


That is some scary stuff man. In fact, one of the few things that scares me more than the NWO is people who seem to think that it's a good idea. Are you hearing yourself? A stronger central government?! You've gotta be kidding me. Centralization of power has lead to more suffering in this world than any other institution in human history. We need to decentralize power, not further concentrate it into the hands of an elite oligarchy. Let me ask your this: What is it you value more, order or liberty?


I very much agree with you and things seem to evolving faster and faster... not a good thing at all. Giving a very small group of people the power to fully control is the world is an extremely scary idea. We can only pray this will never happen... I doubt it though. Personally, I think the plans have been made already a long time ago during Bilderberg meetings. One interesting thing I noticed, is that Bilderberg is not attended by Israelis. Would there be no place for Israel in a NWO? - just Euros and Ami's.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 09:58 AM by Benevolent Heretic
I answered in this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And from the original source:


"The phrase 'new world order' traces back at least as far as 1940, when author H.G. Wells used it as the title of a book about a socialist, unified, one-world government," writes Drew Zahn. "The phrase has also been linked to American presidents, including Woodrow Wilson, whose work on establishing the League of Nations pioneered the concept of international government bodies, and to the first President Bush, who used the phrase in a 1989 speech."



reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:02 AM by Orwells Ghost
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Interesting point regarding Israel. I tend to believe that Israel and Zionism are merely a means to an end. There is no Zionist conspiracy per say, just one great "Illuminated" conspiracy of which Israel is currently a useful part. However, in the end there is no room for religion; it is too great a threat to those who would desire power over others. If Israel must be created and destroyed to bring about a new order then that is exactly what will happen.



reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:49 AM by Conluceo
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Well since you're on the subject, Wrestling's part to play in the NWO covert propaganda machine came from the WCW. They were the one's who introduced the NWO storyline with Eric Bischoff and the two characters that defected from the WWF. The WCW belongs to Ted Turner who is a well known Bilderberger. Perhaps the influence came from him?
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