Originally posted by Orwells Ghost

Originally posted by logician magician
We really need a centralized government much stronger than the UN that enforce decisions on a Global scale. Imagine if every state in the US had an Army that had the propensity to attack other states in disagreement or set up trade restrictions themselves! It would be chaos just like it is now on a world scale. With a federated government like the U.S, there is basically one chief (federal government) and 50 Indians.

Right now the world consists of "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians" There are about 172 sovereign chiefs with their own tribes doing whatever they wish. We need to restructure the tribes, join them into less and less tribes, and employ only a few chiefs to instruct our little Indians in civilized manners of living.

That is some scary stuff man. In fact, one of the few things that scares me more than the NWO is people who seem to think that it's a good idea. Are you hearing yourself? A stronger central government?! You've gotta be kidding me. Centralization of power has lead to more suffering in this world than any other institution in human history. We need to decentralize power, not further concentrate it into the hands of an elite oligarchy. Let me ask your this: What is it you value more, order or liberty?

Your thinking is too one sided. Do you also hate that all 50 states are under a centralized government, or that countless individual countries were born from various territories that centralized into republics, federations, and unitaries?

You must hate that the EU, and UN were created. Do you also hate that individual humans got together under small centralized governments called tribes? Do you hate that tribes centralized into nations, or that nations centralized into territories? You must be effing mad that those territories formed into countries!

Do you hate the continents too? I bet that you're really mad at the sun for being the center of the solar system!

We could decentralize to the point where every man is an island but if your not willing to go that far, then you are in fact FOR some form of centralization, are you not? You seem to be drawing an arbitrary line at a world government.

Is an isolated tribe or country who has a centralized leadership any different from an isolated world in scope?

All of the detrimental and beneficial things that humanity manifests is proportional the the degree of centralization. Agriculture, metal working, education systems, etc... are all products of a centralization. So are war, disease, and famine. It all balances out just like everything else.

So was the constitution. It created a centralized government. The constitution of the United States is a document describing the very thing you are speaking out against.

You really have to be either a fool or a paranoid kook to think that the a constitution for a world government won't be deliberated for years and have the input of every country that joins the union. As far as history is concerned, there is a great track record of committees, representatives, councils, etc... at every political level except for a few regimes that are quickly over run by the people or the rest of the free world.

As for order vs. liberty, If you value one over the other then you are an absolute naive idealist.
Liberty without order is fatal. It lends to anarchy. The same goes for order without liberty - it is very destructive and short lived.

History tells us very clearly that the NWO will be a balance of liberty and control - and that if it is not, it will suffer a swift death. History also shows us all of the civilizations that attempted to conquer the world, and why they failed.

I can see how the human in you, who only thinks on the small scales would find this all very scary and stressful. If you think in larger terms - terms of the direction of humanity as a whole, then it's not very scary at all. It's more exciting because it will be a huge step forward for us.

People like you, thinking in your little box, just want to halt the advancement and progress of humanity due to your fears. You all are like the soldier in battle, the fighter, the driver, the investor, the who hesitates to make their move when the time is right and then so suffers.

We can't hesitate with the NWO - and everyone on ATS can see that we are trying our best as humanity not to hesitate with this... because if we do, the consequences will be dire. It will either lead into another World War, all decentralized sovereign countries for themselves, and/or else it will all fall apart so bad that we won't get the chance for another 1000 years.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Holy taken out of context batman!

Just because Kissinger said NEW WORLD ORDER does not mean it's part of the super powerful yet unknown entity that the tinhat crowd like to call the NWO

If that's the case, then Hulk Hogan MUST be the leader! and he'll be runnin' wild on you!

Talk about out of context, comparing Henry Kissinger's usage of New World Order with that of Hulk Hogans. Don't worry when the New World Order takes hold, you'll probably be still able to watch wrestling.

[edit on 7-1-2009 by Amelie]

Well, Obama and the New World Order - what a surprise! (NOT).

I have posted warnings about Obama from the start - even got a few stars.

May the Lord help all of us.

In the december issue of TIME magazine 12/4/08 there is a very blatant article describing the "Obamas New World Order"!!!! the article is actually titled with this banner!!!

New World Order is not what we think it stands for.

Most ordinary non conspiratorial folk associate it with peace and love, -unity. But it is just code for secret genocide, secret slavery. Everything Hitler did but secret.

Under the veil of fear of a military and police force brainwashed by their own misplaced patriotic [FEELINGS] and moving fast without full reason they became..well.. apologists and gave up.

Now since the public has not heard the calls of the modern Paul Reveres. America is being disassembled like the rest of the world, in fact it is the keystone in my view to dismantling the world.

Now I hate war. I hate division. I hatet non-civilised behavior, not in a snob way, but more intellectual honest and emotionaly balanced way. Or at least fight the demons back, knowing others are there suffering the same but then the question, why choose to suffer. Stagnation is poverty. Money is slavery. Creation is freedom. Earth is sustanance and sanctuary. My point is we as a race, should ditch this elitism complex brought on by a germ called cash. No one, whether your the most crazy dellsuional recluse, is not better or worse than the other, the baby is the same as the retired.

man and woman are spiritually very similar, any drama is generally contrived by idiocy.

Earths modern problem is not global warming, is not war, it is a deficit of spiritual expansion. We as a race are forcing an implosion, and in the bible I read, ol satan likes to take things back a bit. Things..evil things, smirking faces of power..are lining up to attempt the biggest colluded crime of all time, subverting sovereign power to create an oppressive classist ignorant upperclass who spit on those who have less. Ignorant because they themselves are directly inducing the poverty, in order to stay..classist pigs.

classism is dead
racism is a shame
ignorance is failure
grow up opinionated peoples of the earth who know nothing at all, but pretend to for status.

I don't think Obama is antichrist, but I certainly feel he will play a huge role in paving the way for antichrist.

Folks, like it or not, what you are seeing is Biblical Prophecy. If you are feeling bored, try debunking Biblical Prophecy for awhile. I won't hold my breath.