I hope that it is a false alarm. Of course it this geologist feels that danger is real it is his duty to alert the people, panic or not. But from what i know (nothing serious - couple of documentary movies) serious geological event in that area will make 200kms radius ridiculous. It was described as major cataclysm that will reshape North America. 200 km??

Find the actual caldera uplift..... 2 years ago it was 30 cm....

From what I know if it gets 60 cm uplift it is time to be ...... scared.

From geologists calculations the last time the caldera blowup .. the uplift before it blow was at leest 60cm.
It as been rising slowly..... but it can rise 30cm in days.


So look for the uplift info..... then talk about it.

The animals are not acting strangely because they are in on the conspiracy. On a side note, someone had asked what kind of mask they should get...I would suggest either a Freddy Krueger or Michael Myers mask should do nicely.
I get no bad feelings, and there has been nothing from the GFOL, so I'm feeling good that nothing will happen in the immediate future. I'd be watching the conflict in the M.E. more than I'd be even remotely interested in this non-event.

I agree hunter for the most part - but in terms of them holding back info - believe me they do.

As mentioned my dad is an expert in this field and regularly has worked with USGS and they don't mention anything until they are 100% sure - despite, he reckons, in the past he's seen some pretty scary stuff in terms of activity that has been poo pooed by them publically.

Also - as in my original thread - I know for a FACT that just before christmas there was significant activity at Mt Baker - including the melting of a massive area of the glacier on the upper slopes - which in my mind is news. Did it even hit the local press? no.

Could somebody tell me how many personal measurement instruments or any other kind of tools this guy has at Yellowstone?

If you want to believe Hollywood go ahead. But at least that guy in the movie had his own instruments and team on site.

My sister lives in Spokane Washington, also close enough to be scared about Yellowstone, and I wouldn't let her be scared by the bad acting of that guy.

Oh, there has been no official warning, so the guy must be lying.

We love and trust our government to keep us safe and let us know of impending disaster. If something does go wrong, they'll leap into action just like hurricane Katrina.

The government has never kept data of an impending threat secret before.


This is the general feeling I am getting from many posters on this topic. Wake up.

We have (on our records) unprecedented seismic activity in Yellowstone, and with all the studies of the area that have been done in the past, this is exactly how an eruption there would start.

The government would probably know far more about it than we do, and knowing them, would avoid warning people due to the panic it would cause.

Whats a few thousand lives as long as we keep our infrastructure intact. .

So people please, don't dismiss this warning simply because it is the first to come. More will follow.

Anyone living in the area please get yourselves to safety. Just in case.

[edit on 2-1-2009 by fooffstarr]

Thank you to the Moderators for adding "Non Official" to this threads title.

I dissagree. It's not like they deliberatley are holding back for some sinister reason. But they certainly hold back info to protect local economies etc.

For instance the Baker incident my dad was/is involved with - same weekend as they were opening the Mt Baker ski area for the season. If they had even mentioned anything unusual I'm sure hundreds of people would cancel their trips. So they do wait until they are sure in circumstances where there is more at stake than just people's safety. I'm not suggesting they would put people in danger though.

The problem that may concern ATS users is that this is another example of the state making decisions on your behalf. If snow melts on Mt Baker due to volcanic heating - and it;s serious enough to fly a leading vulcanologist half way around the world at christmas - wouldn't you rather know and make your own mind up if you live close by?

Just a thought, I personally trust them - I mean I should, my dad is part of all this! But its the precedent that bothers me. If they hold this back then what else do they hold back - where do they put the line.

I also know they hold back some quake reports too.

I think people have discussed her that quakes happen and are then often retrospectively posted - sometimes weeks later.

Originally posted by fooffstarr

So people please, don't dismiss this warning simply because it is the first to come. More will follow.

Anyone living in the area please get yourselves to safety. Just in case.

[edit on 2-1-2009 by fooffstarr]

Your sources? Your credentials? You are advising people to up and run in the middle of winter and abandon their homes and jobs. You do realize that?

quote:

"Accelerated Uplift and Magmatic Intrusion of the Yellowstone Caldera, 2004 to 2006
Wu-Lung Chang,1* Robert B. Smith,1* Charles Wicks,2 Jamie M. Farrell,1 Christine M. Puskas1

The Yellowstone caldera began a rapid episode of ground uplift in mid-2004, revealed by Global Positioning System and interferometric synthetic aperture radar measurements, at rates up to 7 centimeters per year, which is over three times faster than previously observed inflation rates. Source modeling of the deformation data suggests an expanding volcanic sill of ~1200 square kilometers at a 10-kilometer depth beneath the caldera, coincident with the top of a seismically imaged crustal magma chamber. The modeled rate of source volume increase is 0.1 cubic kilometer per year, similar to the amount of magma intrusion required to supply the observed high heat flow of the caldera. This evidence suggests magma recharge as the main mechanism for the accelerated uplift, although pressurization of magmatic fluids cannot be ruled out."

oh man, I didnt even realize that my mother in law and nephew, are in jellystone this weekend. I hope nothing bad happens

Although I'm not anywhere near yellowstone ( I live in the Netherlands) I have been following the Yellowstone threads with increasing attention. I'm not an expert by any means on geological or vulcanological areas, just an interested person. But I think I remember something about it also being possible that not the supervolcano blows but a new volcano could also form within days... I can remember something like that happening in mexico late 1800's... However I've read this stuff somewhere and can't find the data to verify it... can someone with some more knowledge than me shed some light at this and point out the odds of this happening?