POLICE.........Love 'em or Hate 'em..........What's your take on their "Job Performance"

POLICE.........Love 'em or Hate 'em..........What's your take on their "Job Performance"

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I do know we aren't to judge people as a whole. Unfortunately when you have had bad experiences, you have to judge as a whole to keep yourself safe.

I understand there maybe some decent people in this field of work, but from my experience most are all undertrained, egotistical, gung ho types who let the job go to their heads and have serious dominance issues. Always trying to control a situation.

I'm not gonna sugar coat it and will tell you my feelings. Though I do not have a problem conducting myself in a human fashion, I personally hate these people as a whole, until I individually experience them to determine otherwise and have been correct in my assessments 99% of the time.

Police "FORCE" ................use of force.

LAW enFORCEment............practice of manipulating,corrupt, self serving man made laws to bring revenue to the Corporation they work for , by means of "FORCE".

Who polices the Lawmakers,Elected officials and police??


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Just a few examples. This could be your mother,daughter or wife and you want to defend this scum.Search for yourself because there's plenty to find.Also take into consideration that these people posed absolutely no threat.









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Dicks on power trips. It´s filthy job.. taking peoples freedom away.

Guns of the goverment, they are NOT here for YOUR protection.

Police are human beings like you and I.
Who get offered a job that they are lied to about of which they are told that they will be helping people in.
And then when they get into the job, and have sacrificed everything in there lives to help people.
After many years of experience, they realize they are nothing but a porn in a sick game.
And can and will be used to kill and murder people at the whim of the tyrannical power that controls them, who is never at risk.
The Police are waking up.
But first human beings in general need to wake up.

It's a mystery, an enigma why people blame an entire profession (police) when a few bad ones do something.


Mechanics beat people too, but you never hear people complain about mechanics, do you?

Like any job,there are good and bad people. I've been arrested by some lovely officers,and I've been arrested by some right w#####s. half the time,it's how you respond to them,which in turn envokes a bad/good reaction. (I live in the UK,I know that the american police force are 100 times worse) This sort of job attracts 2 sorts of people IME. First off,you have the genuine,joined to help people type of police officer. They may be missguided,but their heart is definatly in the right place. then,there's the other 95% who were bullied at school,and are out for revenge on the human race. They,unfortunatly make up the majority of coppers out there. And they are *insert words of your choice,which are unpostable on this forum*

Unfortunaly,the good cops get given a bad name by the bad cops,and that will have a knock on effect. As everyone treats cops the saem,the cops will treat all of us the same. Good or bad. It's a 2 way street.

"What is my Take?" Good and Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad.....

A neighbor stole from me, stole a horse from across the street, shot up a house (occupied with 2 year old) further down the street (Eye witness), Killed my animals, caused death of another neighbor... The cop living on the street say she is a known drug dealer, and Cocaine was found in her trailer after she moved out. Results: Not one arrest or conviction I was told by the magistrate to just leave her alone and not upset her?!?

My Semi was taken and I swore out a warrant. I gave picture, SS#, Drivers License, addresses, and place of work. I located the truck and the thief three times and called it in. Police response? "We're sorry we are too busy right now" ALL THREE TIMES

Saw a driver get out of his car, slam a private traffic control guy on the ground and start strangling him. Called it in. Police response? "We're sorry, that is private property you will have to wait until he is dead to report it." There was a license checkpoint within eyesight and again nothing was done.

I had won a lawsuit. I took the steps to have the county sheriff claim the damages for me. He stalled and stalled for months until his good buddy could move out of the area.

I think there maybe some good cops (like my neighbor) but there are a lot of useless ones too. My neighbor (a forester) told me he was harassed by the local cops after he reported finding MJ while doing his work. He finally contacted the feds about it and a bust was made. I saw it since it was up the road from me and another neighbor was arrested. I know of at least four drug dealers living on the road and have stumbled on deals more than once. I gave up calling them in.

No I do not live in the city, I live on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere with less than 20 families spread over six miles of road.

Nothing is done about theft, drugs, killings but some poor old lady who takes in strays and feeds them well (I know I have seen the animals) gets put in jail for animal abuse while our drug dealing neighbor gets off scott free despite video of her torturing and killing a puppy. Go figure.

Originally posted by ProudWN
It's a mystery, an enigma why people blame an entire profession (police) when a few bad ones do something.


Mechanics beat people too, but you never hear people complain about mechanics, do you?

Yes, the mechanics are resonsible for enforcing the totalitarian laws around the world?

Oh no, wait, its the police officers who are just "doing their jobs". Just like the Gestapo were just doing their jobs when they were dragging jews to the camps.

Funny how that works out?

Police today are MOSTLY scum...it is the 95% THAT ARE BAD...AND 5% THAT ARE ok. Cops today are trained from the academy to destroy the rights so much blood has paid for..and that is a shame.

most all cops lie, bluff and intimidate to get CONSENT requests, and that is an insult to the patriots that died for the Constitution. cops do not care about our rights, just in how to get around them.

Pefect example: last night, on a cop show, a cop stops a kid because his plate light bulb was out. He right away says: Do you have any guns or drugs in that car? NO, the driver says. Then, the filthy cop says: Well, if thats true, you won't mind me checking you and the car. The guy says: NO, Not my car, I am only 17, Iwant to call my Mom. The cop begins the asault: If you have nothing to hide why not?

The scumbag cop then stalled and called for the dog...typical crap.Pressure to get petty busts so their arrest records swell is the goal of the nazi scum today, not protecting the public. How many burglaries took place while some flatfooted donut muncher spends an hour harrassing some innocent on the side of the road?

Anytime I get stopped, I let them know right away that I am in charge, not them. I answer NO questions, NONE. I give my papers and then pray thqat they screw up so I can sue them. I want every cop who crosses the line ONE INCH to lose everything; his home, his job, his savings, all of it!!

Cop today are thugs that must be treated like the vermin they are: They are only out to throw people in jail, they are crooked, they LIE. Perjury is COMMON, accepted and taught. The cops will lie without conscience all day long, and then they wonder why we hate them.

Get a camera for your car, get t ready, and always record ALL contacts with the thugs...if a cop so much as crosses the line one bit let them know that they will be sorry. There is NOTHING as satisfying as seeing some bald headed thug scumbag cop weep and shake as a jury finds him negligent and in violation of civil rights..a federal court can do wonders to make a phony, bluffing thug cop wish he had never messed with you.

Cops are the enemy, and we had better be ready to treat them as such.

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You watch wayyyy too many hollywood movies.

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thats a completely outrageous comparison

we have had police since the begining of our country and their sole purpose is to keep the peace unfortunately some take advantage of there power

the gestapo on the other hand was created to drag jews to prison camps there totally different

Well, I've never gotten a ticket or done anything to make the cops take interest in me, so I don't have a problem with them. I actually worked with them at one point and I had no problem with the cops I worked with. Those are some awful videos though. With the first one, that "she fell and injured herself" just doesn't seem right.

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The few good cops eventually succumb to the pointlessness of their job. One can only babysit so many drunks. Detain and hold the same addicts day after day so many times. Stay on a force long wnough and you'll see the 14 year old you picked up for burglary mug somebody 18 months later and kill somebody a year or two after that. Keep on the force and you'll get to see the same guy kill a few others in his 30's.

Waiting for some degenerate to commit a crime before you act doesnt save anybody from being victimized. Shipping them off to spend a few months with friends from the old neighborhood, some of whom they look up to, and simultaneously justifying their criminal and anti-social outlook by upholding their perceived "street-cred" with the very act of arrest makes them bolder and stringer when they are prematurely released.

Cops are pointless. Powerless to protect anyone and in performing their most basic duties they justify the existance of the petty thig and give their criminal lives meaning and value as criminals.

At best they are an ineffective waste of my tax dollars and a mild inconvenience to the small time crook. At worst they are sadistic power-hungry monsters who dont care one way or the other about the crime in society but are only concerned with justifying their own petty existence through diaplays of power and control over the already law-abiding.

Life would be better without them. They are a poor cover for symptoms that keeps a cure at bay. They obstruct true solutions by giving rights to the criminal and demonizing the victim.

I used to make the distinction between good cop and bad cop and went out of my way to make the worthless and PC obligated statements like "not all cops but..." "clearly the crooked cop is the minority case" but the older I get and more I see, read and hear the more I realize every last one of them needs to disappear and the institutions that is armed, government trrained sentrys funded by the very tax dollars they would be charged with collecting is perhaps the most evil body on this planet.

They decide to murder anyone they want, and also run organised stalking on innocent people. All bad apples, in the same pot as far as i am concerned.

If you ever went to them with a crime, they would not want to know, unless it is someone they know. Then that person can get anyone murdered by the police, because they do not give a damn.

Police= serial killers. My 2 cents.

America is in an unsustainable mode vis a vis police and firemen. I assign that current condition to the after-effects of World War 2. You may have heard stories of the $50 a month buck private's pay. During the War, a total of 16 million men (and women) served in all the branches. That was out of a 140 million population.

A lot of men stayed on in the service. The military compensated for the low pay by offering retirement pay after 20 years service. A man (or woman) could enlist at 18 and retire at age 38. He or she would then receive half pay for the remainder of his life. Many veterans became police or firemen. Their pay was also very low. Fireman worked 24 hours on and 24 hours off which gave them an 84 hour work week. They were just paid for 40 hours on the grounds they could sleep much of the time they were on duty.

To compensate for the low pay, cities began to offer the same deal the military offered. Retire at half pay after 20 years of service. So that became a tradition in those two areas of public service. You could have a second career but with a fall back income.

Then came the era of police and firemen unions. They gradually got the paid increased. But the 20 years retirement stayed as it was. Nowadays, a typical policeman or fireman with 5 years service will be making $55,000-$60,000 a year.

Problem. Suppose a twenty year old person joins the police. After 20 years service he retires. The police authority hires his replacement, another 20 year old. He serves out his 20 years and he retires. The police authority hires another 20 year old policeman. But now the taxpayers are paying half pay to a 60 year old, half pay to a 40 year old and full pay to a 20 year old. The police authority is paying $120,000 a year to get ONE policeman in uniform on the street.

With the now standard 40 hour workweek, it takes FOUR police on the payroll to get ONE police on the street. (168 hours per week). It is mathematically possible that an unlucky - actuarially speaking - police authority could be paying $480,000 to get ONE COP ON THE BEAT!

When cops were paid $100 a week, this was not too important but now that many are paid $1,000 a week or more, it is unsustainable. We must have a new paradigm.

..Dont get on their bad side, thats all.. give no problems, and you'll have no problems..

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See, this is one of the problems. What are they? Mobsters, gangsters, petty thugs? What civilized individual goes through life with this simplistic attitude of vengeance? The semi-retarded do. Dont look Bubba or Leroy in the eye when passing because you'll get on his bad side and the natural consequences of that would be a lifetime of harassment.

Adolescent drug addicts and illiterate 40 year olds behave this way in Camden New Jersey while battling for prime real estate on the front stoop of the corner package store.

So why the hell are the people who we employ and arm with charge to protect us from harm behaving this way?

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. . there [are] decent people in this field of work, but . . are . . gung-ho types . . Always trying to control a situation.

If you reflect on it, it is crucial that the police officer arriving on the scene must establish his or her control as quickly as possible. He or she cannot become just one more loud mouthed combatant. Police are called to a disturbance and usually encounter one or more rowdy people shouting at each other. The officer must STOP the noise and get the people to LOOK to him instead of becoming part of the fracas. Police don’t come unless someone thinks there is trouble or excess. Firmness (fairly employed) is preferred to politeness in that situation.

I do not have a problem conducting myself . . Police "FORCE" . . use of force. LAW enFORCEment . . practice of manipulating, corrupt, self serving man made laws to bring revenue to the Corporation they work for by means of "FORCE".

There have always been abuses of authority. There are still a few speed traps around the country. I have heard several truckers I know say that enforcement is UP and they attribute it to the FALL in revenues due to the current recession. I can’t prove it but I do believe it.

Who polices the Lawmakers, Elected officials and police?

I agree. We need an INSPECTOR GENERAL who has FULL power to investigate the conduct or misconduct of all persons employed by the public. Civilian Review Boards are essential in a so-called democratic country. TRANSPARENCY when it comes to tax dollars is a MUST HAVE.

“Corruption” as we use it is a pejorative term we apply to many foreign governments but I’d bet there are MORE dollars stolen by corrupt people in the United States than all the other countries in the world combined!

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Originally posted by ProudWN
It's a mystery, an enigma why people blame an entire profession (police) when a few bad ones do something.


Mechanics beat people too, but you never hear people complain about mechanics, do you?

First Off: The Executive Branch of Government is the Law Enforcement Branch. The are not the Legislative Branch who Write Law. They are not the Judicial Branch who Judge Law. They are not the Citizenry Branch who suffer Law for whom it is written, enforced, and judged. These are just people in professions too. Even if just the profession of being people.
Therefore, Police, like military and paramilitary/police type individuals/ entities fall under jurisdiction of the Executive (Law Enforcement) Branch whether localised, federal, or state. The roots of which tree are, to me, obviously rotted, vile, and corrupt. Corruption corrupts. Therefore the entire Law Enforcement system from Joe Cop to to Mayor Mayhem to Governor Garrolous through to Mr. President are either corrupted, corrupted, or in the process of corruption, else they'll likely fall from the tree.
Secondly: While you may feel there are only a few bad ones. It's really a matter of subjective vs. objective view. While humans may appear to be objective, their objectiveness is bourne of a subjective mind. Therefore, whom you may consider bad (say Israel or Caananites or Palestinians) others may consider good and vice versa. Israel invades Caanan and takes the land by force because their God said so. Caananites occupied the land first until they were rooted out by force by the Israelites because the Caananites God gave them the land first before the new Israeli God made his Law the Law. Move ahead to modern times. Israel again displaces Palestinians who were thetre first by Law of the Palestinian God's Law, because Israel's God's Law said to do so. Follow me so far? Now, move back to Police. Which cop do you support? Whom do you oppose? How do they hurt or benefit your interests? Can you objectively consider how the one who hurts you helps another, or the one who helps you hurts another? What of others similiarly situated to, or the inverse of, you? Can you objectively see how they can all be seen in a negative light as a whole profession, or do you freeze up with your own subjective take on the matter?

A cop who beats a thug is a hero, never mind the thug was forced into that position to fend for themselves or their family because of the bogus Laws put in place by the Mayor who pins a medal of bravery on the cop for beating the thug against all odds. Or the cop who makes a drug or weapons seizure, but falsifies the evidence intake report so that he can sell the seizures at a profit to the judge or prosecutor or defense lawyer or whomever, while incarcerating the "criminal" for the same crime all dealers know they are key propogaters of themselves. Consider, except under strict and expensive conditions may Cocaine be grown in America, yet, the DOT, ICE, COPs, and all others receive a cut in maintaining traffic and bonuses for restricting competition. Don't think so, let a really intelligent crook try to make Afghanistan Marijuana which has the highest THC content in the world, being the best region in the world to grow it, become the lead source of marijuana in this country and see if the Columbians don't have American authorities shut you down with a vengeance, even though it beats Columbian Gold and the like hands down.
Yet, the same intelligent criminal could sell directly for the Columbians and never have a problem. Assuming in both cases the authorities know exactly who this person is and exactly what they are doing. I've seen it, others have seen it, we need no proof.
Lastly: If a Policeman is naive enough to believe such atrocities don't exist, they are gullible enough to be manipulated into believing not only that they are doing the right thing, but also, that they aren't furthering a covert corrupt agenda.

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