Conspiracy: The Bailout Is Actually An International Ransom to Prevent Another 9/11 , page 1


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Topic started on 23-12-2008 @ 06:37 AM by nikiano
Ok, so I have a theory I want to float and see if what you all think. I admit, I do have a wild imagination at times. But I also have an ability to connect the dots in ways that others don't. So, I wanted to see if this theory had ever come up before, and what you all think of it.

If it's not possible, then it would at least make a good fiction book!!

Background: I have watched many of the conspiracy theory videos out there, and since watching them, I felt that there was definitely good evidence of a cover-up and a conspiracy in 9/11. I definitely do not believe the official story by the government and the 9/11 comission, that's for sure.

This past week or so, I was discussing something completely non-related to 9/11 on a thread in a different forum, and somebody mentioned DEW and how it was responsible for the destruction of the WTC site. I had never heard of DEW before, so I asked for more information, and someone told me to go to Dr. Judy Wood's website for more information. So, I did. And I must say....whoa!!

I saw even more evidence than was even disclosed in any of the 9/11 conspiracy theory videos. This goes WAYYYY beyond controlled demolition. I can clearly see the steel beams being turned into dust and powder right there on film. NO thermite or controlled demolition can do that. Plus, on her website, there are also other important revelations I had never seen or heard about before.

There are transcripts of eye witnesses stating that people around the base of the WTC just dissappared right into thin air right in front of other people's eyes, in a wave of energy. Other people told how they saw planes instantly disappearing into puffs of fire that were flying nearby. There are photos of cars and trucks nearby that were burned out, with twisted metal and missing door handles and disintegrated engine blocks, but there was no other fires nearby. And no paper was on fire nearby, even though paper was all around. It really does look like there was something that was used that had the capability of targeting specific types of metals....such as steel and car engine blocks.

Ok....so now, after viewing this, this brings up even MORE questions. And in my mind, when I have questions, I develop theories to explain them. I can't help it...I need answers, so I come up with theories.

First, if DEW was used, and was all done for a false flag operation for an excuse to go into Iraq for oil, it's over kill. The planes alone crashing into the building would have been enough for a false flag operation. Controlled demolition of the towers would also have been enough for a false flag. But using a DEW weaopn to pulverize an entire WTC complex....it doesn't make sense for a false flag operation. It's overkill.

After reading her website, the conclusion I came to is this:

It was not an outright attack...it was merely a demonstration. A demonstration of a mighty weapon. A demonstration of the capability of what such a weapon could do. Was this demonstration used as a false flag? I dont' think so. Was it used as an attack by another country? I don't know. But I think it was clearly a demonstration of a new weapon and its capabilities.

I think if another country meant to do us harm, they could have caused a lot more physical and economic damage by collapsing the towers on the rest of the city. But they didn't. They spared the rest of the city. Why??? Why destroy those huge towers of steel, but save the area around it?? If it was an advanced weapons attack by a foreign country, and they meant business, wouldn't they want the towers to come crashing down on the rest of the city, causing as much damage as possible?? Yes, you would want to MAXIMIZE damage.

But the damage to the rest of the city was MINIMIZED by using whatever technology they used to destroy the buildings that way. By pulverizing the steel into dust, the DEW caused much less damage than a controlled demolition would have caused. There was much less steel, much less rubble than would have been there in a controlled demolition. And the towers collapsed onto themselves.

What if it was used as a threat?? Was it someone saying: hey, we're going to show you how we can pulverize your entire WTC site into DUST right in front of your eyes.
Then, they say: Now that we've shown you what we can do.....give us ALL your money or we'll do it again, and again, and again.

For months, I've felt that this entire "economic crisis" was a load of bull. Our government regulators must have been totally incompetent and asleep at the wheel for this to happen. People have been warning our government for years of the ramifications of our economic policies, but they just looked the other way. Why?

I used to think it was an excuse to get us to collapse the dollar to bring in the Amero. But what if this entire economic crisis was manufactured as a way to raise TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in RANSOM money, and disguised as an economic "bailout".

I know....this is pretty wild and far out. But what makes more sense: that our entire economy could be taken down by some bad mortgages and fraudulent bankers, while all of our government regulators looked the other way for years...and that our Congress was so stupid to just let Paulson give away trillions of dollars to banks, WITHOUT ANY OVERSIGHT???

What if the money is being laundered through the banks and is as ransom. Think about it: Paulson refuses to tell us where 2 TRILLION dollars has gone. It's our tax money....we have a right to know, but they refuse to tell us where it's going. They refuse to.

Also, the banks cannot tell us where it's going. There is NO ACCOUNTING of the money by them, and even more suspicously....OUR GOVERNEMENT IS NOT ASKING THE BANKS TO TELL US WHERE OR HOW THEY ARE USING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. We are simply TRUSTING banks to use it as they seem fit to stimulate the economy. DOESN'T THAT SEEM STRANGE???

I think there is money laundering going on here. This economic crisis was manufactuered. The bailout is just a huge cover-up for giving somebody trillions of dollars. Why would we do that??

What if our government leaders feel they have no choice. What if they have been shown this mighty weapon, and have been told by whoever used it: We want all your money, or we'll use it again. And again. And again.

I'm also going to post this in New World Order forum, because I don't know where this thread belongs. (Administrators, tell me if I cannot do this.)




Modified the title to be more descriptive to the post.

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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:06 AM by nikiano
reply to post by ipsedixit



Trust me, I'm no fan of the Bush administration.

Although I would love to believe that nobody in the government was involved at all in 9/11, the possibility of that is probably slim to none.

Another possibility is that DEW could have been used by friends of Bush/Cheney and they are just playing along with it....only to be heavily rewarded after they leave office.




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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:09 AM by nikiano
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Basically, DEW stands for Directed Energy Weapon.

To read more, to go www.drjudywood.com

She explains it all there, and you can see videos of the steel being pulverized into dust.

Her website is still under construction, however, and I admit it is disorganized and difficult to follow at times.


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:12 AM by SPreston
posted by nikiano
It was not an outright attack...it was merely a demonstration. A demonstration of a mighty weapon. A demonstration of the capability of what such a weapon could do. Was this demonstration used as a false flag? I dont' think so. Was it used as an attack by another country? I don't know. But I think it was clearly a demonstration of a new weapon and its capabilities.

I think if another country meant to do us harm, they could have caused a lot more physical and economic damage by collapsing the towers on the rest of the city. But they didn't. They spared the rest of the city. Why??? Why destroy those huge towers of steel, but save the area around it?? If it was an advanced weapons attack by a foreign country, and they meant business, wouldn't they want the towers to come crashing down on the rest of the city, causing as much damage as possible?? Yes, you would want to MAXIMIZE damage.

But the damage to the rest of the city was MINIMIZED by using whatever technology they used to destroy the buildings that way. By pulverizing the steel into dust, the DEW caused much less damage than a controlled demolition would have caused. There was much less steel, much less rubble than would have been there in a controlled demolition. And the towers collapsed onto themselves.

What if it was used as a threat?? Was it someone saying: hey, we're going to show you how we can pulverize your entire WTC site into DUST right in front of your eyes.
Then, they say: Now that we've shown you what we can do.....give us ALL your money or we'll do it again, and again, and again.


Interesting thread. The problem with your theory is the United States under the NeoCON Bush Regime is the primary bully of the world. It is we who are arrogantly ordering other nations around. No other nations with space technology (China, Japan, France, Russia, Germany) and the potential capability of lifting weapons platforms into earth orbit, have been demonstrating that they have the upper hand over the US nor receiving huge sums in bribes. Except for one nation, none other demonstrates the ability to extort large sums of cash out of the US.

Only the Israelis demonstrate such, and they have been sucking huge sums of loot out of the US taxpayers for decades. But the Israelis apparently do not have the ability of lifting large payloads into orbit, nor would another nation be stupid enough to put a weapons platform into orbit for them. Repairs and upgrades would have to be done to said weapons platforms, and that shortens the list down to the US and Russia.

Therefore if part of your theory holds true, the US did it to ourselves, and yes it was a demonstration, and yes the rest of the world would know now that yes we are a bully and yes we can do anything we want to you. We can even murder our own citizens and yes nobody can do a thing about it. Even with millions pointing the finger of guilt at us, yes we are invincible because we own the Mainstream News Media, and yes the majority of Americans are useful idiots. We have thousands of loyal fools who will lie and squirm and distort; anything to protect the status quo.



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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:17 AM by nikiano
reply to post by SPreston



Yes, my hope that our government was not involved is wishful thinking....naievely wanting to believe the best in my country.

Your idea sounds more plausible.

Thank you for the input.



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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:34 AM by nikiano
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Maybe it was not a threat to Bush, but a threat from the military-industrial complex to Congress??

My theory is still evolving and being refined in my mind....I just came up with it a few hours ago.


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 08:09 AM by nikiano
reply to post by neformore



Sure, here you go:

This was a transcript from a firefighter. I got this from Dr. Wood's website.


FIREFIGHTER FERNANDO CAMACHO WTC2 Explosions

We went across the lobby of the hotel, going north, and we exited and made a right going towards the second tower, the south tower. We must have walked about 100-200 feet to revolving doors, which led into a hallway to where the mall was. I could see maybe 20, civilians and I believe Ladder 25, which was about another 100 to 150 feet ahead of us. As we came in through the revolving doors, the lights went out. A second or two later everything started to shake. You could hear explosions. We didn't know what it was. We thought it was just a small collapse.

As I looked straight ahead of me, I saw total darkness. Everything was coming our way like a wave. The firefighters that were ahead of us and the civilians that were ahead of us totally disappeared. We turned around. We were all pretty much within ten feet of each other: lieutenant, chauffeur, roof, OV, can. As we turned around, I ran probably maybe ten feet and that's when the body of the building or body of the collapse hit, and we were flying through the air basically. I must have flown 30, 40 feet through the air. Then total quiet. You couldn't breathe. You couldn't see anything.


Also, on the same page, above his transcript is a transcript from a woman who saw a plane disintegrate into a fireball.

Here is her transcript:

As I was running north in this park, and then I could start seeing again a little bit, and I just kept looking in the sky. Cause the captain was saying there's another plane heading in our direction, I was looking for another plane. I saw something in the sky, it was a plane, but it was way out. It looked like it was over Jersey or something, then it wasn't there anymore. I saw a small fireball, and it was gone. I saw two other planes. One came in one way, and the other came in the other way, and there was a plane in the middle that was way far off in the distance. Then the plane in the middle just disappeared into a little fire ball. It looked like the size of a golf ball from where I could see it. And the other two planes veered off into opposite directions. I just kept on running north. About fifteen blocks later, I had no idea that that was just the first tower that had come down.


Both of these transcripts can be found on her website, and this web page:

www.drjudywood.com...


Hmmm...the more that I read the firefighter's transcript, the more I think I may have misinterpreted what he meant by "disappeared." Now that I read it again, I think he meant they disappeared into the wave of dust coming towards him.

But I thought I read somewhere else on her site that people saw things disappear. Let me try to find that. I may have misinterpreted it.


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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 08:27 AM by nikiano
The more I read that firefighter's transcript, the more I think he may have meant they meant they all disappeared into the wave of oncoming darkness caused by a dust wave. I think. But I'm not sure now. How do you all interpret his transcript?

Did they really disappear ...or did they just disappear into a wave of oncoming dust?

I do remember all the news stories showing make-shift medical units waiting for people to show up for medical care, but very few people did. They were amazed at the lack of wounded. People escaped, or they died. There was no middle ground, which seems amazing. But where were the bodies? Were there 3000 bodies recovered? Was it just assumed that they were crushed in the debris? But how many bodies were recovered?


Also, when the dust settled, only 1 filing cabinet was found....but tons of paper. Did filing cabinets disappear like all the human bodies did? Maybe the people DID just "disappear" when the DEW beam of energy was directed at the buildings.

She shows in many pictures, that there wasn't that much debris for a 110 building collapsing. Cars were not burried in rubble....only dust. So, shouldn't there have been furniture, filing cabinets, desks, chairs, etc...? Where was all the office furniture? Where were all the dead bodies? Where were all the office computers? There should have been tons of office furniture and technology that came crashing down in a 110 story office building. But it all just "disappeared."

She also mentions lots of large "holes" appearing in the the complex (made by an energy beam?) and she shows one part of a building was totally just sliced off from another part, and disappeared into nothing.

Maybe the energy beam, or energy wave, or whatever it was, did just disintegrate metal beams, furniture, and bodies. Anything solid it came into contact with.







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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 08:39 AM by Solomons
au.youtube.com...

not saying this is the truth but she stumbles ALOT with basic questions...that doesnt disregard her theory...but it makes you think about her competence.


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 08:43 AM by ipsedixit
reply to post by DangerDeath


The thumper (or resonator) idea is an interesting one, but a big component of what Dr. Wood is talking about is the actual molecular disintegration of the material of the steel itself. This leads me to believe that we are a little further along the vibration spectrum from what Tesla used on the building you mentioned.

Wood's speculations bring us into John Hutchison's territory, the so-called Hutchison effect, which is brought about using electric fields and high-frequency pulsing radio waves, to alter the molecular properties of substances and sometimes even levitate them.

There have been visits to his lab by JPL people and other US defense department scientists. They may very well have picked up the ball from him and gone all Dr. Strangelove with it.
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