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posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 01:26 PM
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i honestly dont have anything against gays..but like people have mentioned before when they make shows like "i love tila tequila" etc i think it somewhat tells the youth mainly girls that its ok to be bisexual..and you know what it definately works as to my knowledge almost all girls ni urban areas either say there bisexual or would be with a girl over a guy...lets not even bring up that katy perry song "i kissed a girl"..like i said i dont have a problem with it..i just dont like how its being shoved down our youth brains...



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 01:44 PM
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Well for starters gays are totally out of line with nature and universal law.Do you see any animals having gay sex?I mean gay sex,anal sex,oral sex.Some animals will sniff around the same sex but not engage in the act.When ever you want to know if something is right/wrong or in alignment with higher good and purpose,don't watch TV,just watch nature .It is perfect and in total alignment with universal good.Look at the reputation gays set up for themselves with gay bathhouses,daisy chains, and rampant drug use and disease.Look at gay parades,does this represent decent values.Why should any decent person be accepting what gays have to offer.Acceptance of gay lifestyle ,pornography,loose morals etc was orchestrated back in the 50's to tear this country down,wreck family values etc.
It is being crammed down our throats,why do you suppose this is?
It's being sold to our very young children so that they question their natural sexuality and experiment with homosexual sex because it is the Normal thing to do.Normalmy butt.These poor kids are going to be a mixed us mess thanks to political correctness.
One of the things that turns me off the most about gays is that they are the whiniest,whankiest group around.Just shut up and go do whatever it is that you do and leave the rest of us alone.Do they do that?No, they are a bunch of perverted sniveling brats.Do heterosexuals parade around acting lewd to show off their sexuality?
The next thing to be accepted will be pedophilia.That has already started in Germany with social services printing brochures promoting it.It's all about tearing the fabric of society apart so the PTB can easily control people who have no morals or values.Why do you think the PTB have gotten away with all that they have so far.Keep people distracted with drugs sports sex.People are now consumed with entertainment which promotes sexual promiscuity,perverted sex,gay sex,and pornography.Who do you think brought most of the drugs into this country?Medicate the sheep so they won't rebel or give a damn about right and wrong.The gay issue has been orchestrate just like feminism was.
The PTB count on us being sheep and thinking like we are supposed to.They orchestrate politically correct and we buy it.
You are soooo cool if you think gays are cool.Come on people think for your self for once.Right is wrong wrong is right.Wake up sheople!!!!
PS......I'm not a Christian.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 02:00 PM
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Ok NettleTea, I see where you're coming from and I do have a bit of a difference in opinion.

I think the concepts of "civility" and "decency" or "public decorum" are frustrating to tell you the truth. Mind you, my frustration does come from a lot of personal experience that has occurred over the last couple of years. Personally, I don't find sexuality, sexual gestures or blatant sexual openness to be wrong, indecent or uncivilized.

Everybody has sex, everybody has a set of genitalia and, guess what, everyone knows about it. Even when you're a child you have seen a naked body. Trying to hide these facts or keep them secret in public doesn't make any sense. I also think that this "taboo" type attitude toward the subject causes a lot of the "falseness" that Revelation talks about.

Over the last few years I have been forced to be, what seems like, a completely different person in the general public than I am around my close friends and some of my family. When I first moved to Florida I tried to just be who I was, because I believed that you should always be who you are without question. But the person I am was almost like a walking freak show to the people that lived around me. I was harassed for the way I looked, the way I dressed, the things I believed in and the way I spoke.

So I tried acting "normal" around public areas and things like that. Tried dressing and speaking the way everyone did. Always lied about my beliefs. But it wasn't long before I began to hate myself for doing so. Hate the fact that I had to hide who I was just because people didn't like it. And I then decided that I really didn't care if they didn't like it or not. It's brought up all the problems from before but I don't care. You can't change me and you shouldn't want to.

Even if we were to perpetuate the sex "taboo" it wouldn't make us "civil". The UFC is still on TV and we still have reality shows the broadcast human suffering as entertainment.

Civility is a pipe dream. We are animals. There's no changing that.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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Actually I have nothing whatsoever against Gays hell I've seen my two male dogs go at it, & though I stop them from going down that germ filled highway they seem quite normal otherwise & I love them. I think its the music that gays listen to that turns some off, I mean Show Tunes & Babs is a bit of a bore to some & down right discusting to others. & maybe also the really really feminine gays sorta turns folks off, as its like watching a really ugly woman pmsing.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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I hear what you are saying. I bring up the issue of civility only in regards to sexual behavior in public though. I don't think it is cool to trash someone for what they wear or their views.

I don't want to try and hide sex from everyone, I just want people to understand that public situations are not always theirs to control. I don't think that I should act the same way in public as I do in private (for one I am a lot nicer in my private life than in public). I don't know everyone walking down the street on a personal level, so I tend to be more formal and respectful for that very reason. The whole idea behind public space is that we all must share it in a respectful fashion.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a stick in the mud who wants to stamp out sexuality. If you want to have these decadent displays you should do it on a more private level (Burning Man being an example where everyone can act as they like because all are like minded individuals in a private setting).

I agree that we are all animals on a base level. I would just like to see us act a bit more advanced when we are in public. After you get home though, feel free to kink it up!

Thanks for the feedback!



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 03:01 PM
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Now see here I can agree with a lot of what you're saying. In regards to parades, I do believe you have to have some kind of permit to hold a parade no matter WHAT it's for so it's not really as though it were some kind of impromptu gathering of scantily clad people.


However, I can understand and agree with the fact that people should have SOME manners and be polite. I generally like to be polite to people I've just met, I mean, as a total stranger they can't have really done much to warrant animosity.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Revealation
Imagine if all of society was gay. We would have no reproduction.How idiotic to believe this is a natural course of existence.I honestly don't know why everyone is so bent on getting a piece of paper signed by some individual that states you're married. As far as I'm concerned it's no different than any of you signing it. It means absolutely nothing. If it makes these gay people happy ,who cares give it to them.


I agree that they should be allowed to be married and have the same rights as every other human being, but your other comment is just ignorant. Many ancient Greek societies were predominantly homosexual and women were used only for procreation. Homosexuality did not cause their civilization to crumble.

I will be the first to admit that I am disgusted when I see homosexuals on TV show affection to one another, but then again, they possibly feel the same way when they see heterosexuals. People should be more tolerant of things they don't understand or don't like. It is unfair and unjust to suppress another group based on phobias or personal beliefs.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by GeeGee
I agree that they should be allowed to be married and have the same rights as every other human being, but your other comment is just ignorant. Many ancient Greek societies were predominantly homosexual and women were used only for procreation. Homosexuality did not cause their civilization to crumble.


The only reason I say is let them marry is because to me it means absolutely nothing to have some schmuck you don't know say it's legal for you to marry this person. I do what I want and Marriage is not a reality because someone signs a paper stating it to be so. It's between the man and woman who decided they wanted to be in eachother's lives forever and intertwine their strands of DNA to create a life out of love, not necessaty.

So basically then what you're saying is, Greek civilization was based on the immoral ways of gays basically making women have their children as they were commiting acts against nature? Forcable rape to keep their corrupt unnatural ways of life in existence. So they have some more little kids to sodomize? As far as my "Ignorant comment" I must say that this (to me) sounds worse.

If everyone was gay by nature, not wanting a partner of a different sex, the world would cease to exist. Or would their be a task force or lottery to make you mate against your will?

IGNORANCE....It's a double edged sword.

EDIT: spelling

[edit on 21-12-2008 by Revealation]



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 07:21 PM
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To answer the original question...Gays deserve the same rights, privilege etc. as anyone else. But part of the problem is, they...like many other groups...want SPECIAL rights. They are not content with the same "domestic partnership" laws as "married" couples...they want the "married" title. That is not something they should get. Marriage is a defined term that has meaning in law and religion and it doesn't extend to same sex couples. It is this "invasion" into other peoples morals and the "in your face" attitude of bullying people that causes much of the prejudice that exists.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 07:32 PM
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I can't possibly understand how you would categorize our emotions and feelings as "gender confusion". Thats extremely obsurd, and in any case, where would the genetic line die? Have you never seen same sex couples adopting children or having surrogates?

But then again, that might seem a little bit too taboo for the conservative base of the world to take.
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You know its funny, the week after they ruled against gay marriage in California, they passed a law that allows us to adopt and raise children. Very interesting how people are more worried about a couple of words in a book the the wellbeing of children.

Not to say it should be a concern ( me and my husband have raised 3 children quite succesfully), but if i had a problem with homosexuality I would be more outraged at them raising kids then wanting to be as miserable as hetero couples are.

People need to realize that these separations, these feeble minded attemps to undermine certain social circles and ways of life, only make our lives harder.

The goverment loves a dumb, in-fighting society....they still have one.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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It is disgusting to think of a man sticking his ding-dong in another man's ass. yuck, not natural.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by The cult of Osiris
It is disgusting to think of a man sticking his ding-dong in another man's ass. yuck, not natural.


No doubt. 2 hairy dudes all up on eachother.


I don't even like when a guy gets too close to me to talk. My hands are ALWAYS ready to keep a man at my respectably perceived distance. Don't invade the personal space people.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 08:12 PM
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In principle, I have nothing against gays and can count a few as friends. I only object to the militant "Im gay and have special priveledges that you must obey and if you don't like it I'll complain to management yada yada yada...". I have run into this several times. The poor manager or boss has to make some sort of awkward statement along the lines of "Well, try not to p'ss him off, try to work with him, play nice...". Not so much as specific examples (although I can come up with some) but this general feeling of some sort of entitlement he had by virtue that he was gay and deserved some extra repsect . It's only this militant " I'm Superior because I'm gay " attitude that has to die.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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Yet perfectly normal for the millions of women who enjoy such acts?

And I'm sure some homosexuals feel the same way if they think about straight sex....and it is perfectly natural...just look at the animals...almost all species have homosexual members.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 08:42 PM
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I am becoming less "tolerant" myself of gays due to the in your face way they are now. I just don't care for having the views forced upon me, for instance, gay pride parade. I don't see the need for such things. I don't feel the need to have a hetero pride parade, it is un-neccassary. I feel they, the gays, are putting too much pressure on society as a whole to accept them. I am not ready to accept you, if you are forcing yourself upon me. I will gladly accept you and your sexuality if you keep it to yourself. Why should you keep it to yourself? I keep my sexualit to myself and my bedroom, where it belongs. I am also fairly religious and yes I feel marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Stop butting in, make your own thing. This bugs me just the same with the whole Happy Holidays thing. Stop butting in on my thing, I don't do the same to you. I have my beliefs and my way of living and I do not attempt to force them on you. Think about that for a minute.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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Ridiculous! The title of marriage SHOULD be given to same sex couples because that's exactly what they would be: married. Atheists get married and are allowed to have the title, so saying the religion has to do with it is plain nonsense.

Here's the thing: If you believe that same sex marriage is wrong, don't have a same sex marriage. If you believe it will get you into hell, well then that saves you a little more room in heaven now doesn't it? It shouldn't be up to ANYONE to determine whether or not same sex marriage is "right" or "wrong"; however, same sex couples should have the right to be married.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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Unfortunately its how people are. I am not gay or bisexual, im not curious at all to "see what its like" and all that, but i have many gay friends, i've had gay people feel attracted to me and I've even been to a gay bar. Why? because im comfortable with my heterosexuality so much that being around gays is not a big thing to me what so ever.

There are many reasons why people are against gays though. They feel its right, it may insult their beliefs, it may go against their religion, they may feel afraid that they have homosexual erges and don't want to express them, they feel that society is based on man to woman relations instead of love in general, it could be because of a rape indecent, and it could be because of society and biased remarks or mass effects from many people giving their rude opinion on it.

They are all great reasons why gays people should be against gays, however, they are only great in the minds of the people that are against gays. In the minds of the open (you and me), equality reigns supreme. Gays are merely people born differently, Suppression and hate is not the answer.

This is a very similar argument to the existence of god really. On one side we have people willing to give factual information on to why they are the way they are and a great position on this based on knowledge, and on the other side we have people basing their opinion on judgment of another and on hearsay.

And unfortunately, this will NEVER change. we may eventually have the majority of people in a certain area accept gays into society, but the numbers of the "judgers" are to many.

EDIT: what people don't understand is that being gay is actually natural. in fact there are many incidences in the wild where animals change gender to increase population (somewhat like a transvestite), in koalas, many females get so aroused from the presents of a male that they try and pleasure themselves and other females with each other. Gays are born gay, if you are born the way you are then it is a natural act to be gay. (i can also prove that statement).

The people that claim otherwise have not looked into science deep enough to prove their point, they are merely stating speculations. They have no proof to back up their theories.

[edit on 21/12/08 by Ghost147]



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 10:20 PM
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Thanks lupusyonderboy! I don't need parades and awareness days or whatever fluff nonsense to remind me that I am heterosexual. If I can't remember that and others can't remember the same thing , well then thats another story.




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