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Topic started on 14-12-2008 @ 04:17 AM by JanusFIN
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Gaza families eat grass as Israel locks border
www.timesonline.co.uk
 AS a convoy of blue-and-white United Nations trucks loaded with food waited last night for Israeli permission to enter Gaza, Jindiya Abu Amra
and her 12-year-old daughter went scrounging for the wild grass their family now lives on.
“We had one meal today - khobbeizeh,” said Abu Amra, 43, showing the leaves of a plant that grows along the streets of Gaza. “Every day, I wake
up and start looking for wood and plastic to burn for fuel and I beg. When I find nothing, we eat this grass.”
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 04:17 AM by JanusFIN
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I just hate Israel these days... No question about that.
1.5 million people prison they upkeep in Gaza, its just sick and crazy. There is no justification to this... No rights at all! I try to be neutral as
long as I could...
And this situation today is just nails in that coffin!
I just ask from all Jews in Israel, how dare you, how can you eat your meal, or sleep your nights?
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 04:20 AM by JanusFIN
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GAZA IN CRISIS Dec 2008
December 13, 2008
This video describes in pictures and words the shocking details of Israels deliberate ravaging of Palestinian life and society in Gaza. Its purpose is
to call attention to the plight of a people under siege, which so far has been chillingly ignored by governments and the world media unwilling to call
Israel to account for its criminal execution of the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from their own land. The video was created by Sonja Karkar
for Australians for Palestine on 9 December 2008 using images captured by various courageous photographers on the ground in Gaza, and the haunting
sounds of Sada (Echo), composed and played on the oud by Ahmad Al-Khatib. See, www.australiansforpalestine.com...
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 04:22 AM by dAlen
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Originally posted by JanusFIN
There is no justification to this... No rights at all! I try to be neutral as long as I could...
Oh, but there is...there is.
As long as its not called a 'holocaust' (which nothing ever will be) then it is all fine.
Just keep walking and look the other way. (Ironic isnt it...that which was meant to teach us what to never do to each other again, is being used as a
tool of fear to keep people from questioning current atrocities - your not anti-semantic are you? See how this works?
People are people...period.)
Peace
dAlen
p.s.
I do want people to realize that not all Jews hate Palestinians - (after all, we are first human beings and are not confined to some
political/religious label.)
Neturei Karta is a group of Jews who truly seek peace between the two nations.
Check it out
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 04:54 AM by DJMessiah
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How disgraceful.
I can't see how anyone religious would back up such actions. No one deserves to be starved to death, not even a country's enemies.
This is real torture, my friends. Having to see your family and kids starve to death, while you can do nothing and the world ignores you.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:02 AM by JanusFIN
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... They are not ignored - at least we care about them.
I just wish to find a way to help them better. Maybe sharing this information is one way to help them... But is that enough?
How can we help them?
EDIT:
Just found this... Somebody is trying!
Iran set to dispatch aid for Gazans
Iran is prepared to dispatch humanitarian aid to Gaza Strip in a bid to help improve the deteriorating living conditions in the costal sliver. Along
with Indonesia and Syria as members of Asian Gaza troika, Iran seeks to help the besieged people of Gaza, Iran's Majlis (Parliament) Speaker Ali
Larijani said Saturday in a telephone conversation with his Indonesian counterpart, Agung Laksono.
www.presstv.ir...
My ten points, all my support goes to Iranians today! "I hope you succeed in this urgent situation..." Thank you.
So, are Israelis starving those people in Gaza just to make provocation towards Iran, and other Arabic states?
How crazy are they, Zionists Jews?
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:17 AM by JanusFIN
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Another related news from Iran...
Gaza 'will be a graveyard for Israelis'
The military wing of the Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine has reacted to Israeli announcements that it will attack the Gaza Strip.
The al-Quds Brigades said in a statement Friday that Israel would be digging its own grave by attacking Gaza.
www.presstv.ir...
And I understand them well - What do they have to loose in this situation? - That gives awesome courage to resist Israeli attacks.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:27 AM by Chris McGee
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Don't they have a border with Egypt? Why can't the UN go in through the Egyptian side?
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:28 AM by 44soulslayer
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Perhaps the Palestinians ought to start focusing on their own quality of life instead of fighting an unwinnable war against Israel.
If they can muster the manpower to mount repeated terrorist attacks against Israel; if they can source and fire rockets... then why can't they feed
their own people?
Israel has no obligation to feed its enemy. Hamas should ditch the rockets and start farming- they should take care of themselves.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:42 AM by Nineteen
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Amazing how a religion can make a group of people so self righteous as to be so incredibly hypocritical. The rest of the world is too cowardly to say
anything lest they be called anti-semitic. How pathetic...but, this cannot go on. Libya sent a ship with food,oil and medical supplies which the
Israeli's would not allow to dock last week. Now the Iranians are attempting the same...probably with the same end result, but at least some are
trying to help.
Forty percent of the 1.5 million in Gaza are children under the age of 15 years. What have they done to deserve forced starvation and no access to
medical care in this day and age?
Who was it that was supposed to have heard the voice of God saying that Jews were the chosen ones. A person saying such a thing today would be
diagnosed with schizophrenia and treated accordingly.
The Israeli jews are setting themselves up for annihilation...I can't believe so many can be so dumb and blind, especially given their history. What
sort of God is it that they believe in. When they say they are the chosen ones they place themselves above others, saying they are special. Suckers
it's just an ego brushing and that is very unhelpful spiritually. One might question what it is they have been supposedly chosen for.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:45 AM by Nineteen
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The Israeli's have had the Palestinians locked up for over a year, and they destroyed or stole most of their farmlands since they invaded Palestine
yonks ago.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:46 AM by vox2442
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Originally posted by Chris McGee
Don't they have a border with Egypt? Why can't the UN go in through the Egyptian side?
Israel controls all of Gaza's borders.
And airspace. a moot point, considering the Israelis destroyed the only airport years ago...
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 06:00 AM by FSBlueApocalypse
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That situation is so messed up and convoluted it doesn't even matter going back to "Who Started It." It's a horrible situation as is, but
honestly, what would happen if the Israeli's let everything be>
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 06:00 AM by JanusFIN
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Ive heard that they are digging tunnels to get some aid from Egypt to starving civilians... Yeah, TUNNELS!
And this is year 2008.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 06:02 AM by JanusFIN
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I havent heard Palestinians making "terrorist" acts in Israel for a long time... Even if they do some now, I see 1.5 million good reason to do
it.
- And I dont count mortar or rockets, those are acts of war.
Israelis have artillery all around Gaza, and they do that as well, so we can call those counter shots as self defense.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 06:08 AM by Phatcat
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Egypt closed the borders for two reasons.
They had elections in which a muslim party had won, then Egypt declared the party to be illegal, and locked up as many as they could find. (Democracy
in action, neh?). After Hamas won, they feared Hamas and the domestic muslims would form a front against the 'Democrats' (got to love sarcasm)
Second reason is that if they supplied the Gaza strip, Israel and the US would be all over them. The lockdown of the Gaza-strip from the Israeli side
would lose all it's worth and people would not become malnourished, uneducated and basically desperate.
I guess the PTB love to have a desperate 'opposing' population, if people are not desperate they will not become terrorists, and where would be the
political advantage in thàt?
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 06:17 AM by Britguy
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A few weeks ago a ship from Libya carrying aid was turned back off the Gaza coast by Israeli gunboats. A week or so ago another vessel carrying aid -
food and medicines etc, as confirmed by the police who boarded it and searched it - this time from an Israeli port was not allowed to even set sail
and several crew were arrested. The Israeli navy have been harassing Gazan fishermen and even spraying them with noxious chemicals preventing them
from fishing.
And now, the Iranian Red Crescent is sending another vessel with aid which, I think, is due to set sail very soon. I wonder what the Israeli response
to this will be?
Israel says it is countering Arab aggression but it is they who broke the most recent ceasefire (again) which Hamas had stuck to. The collective
punishment is also against international law, something Israel is never called to answer for.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 06:44 AM by Raud
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I just have a hard time getting along with the insane irony that the jews, after all the hard times they've had, like during the 30's and 40's has
built the worlds largest concentration camp themselves.
Puh! Will it never end?
I don't know about the NWO, but that "de-population plan" sure has it's benefits in some aspects...
[Edit to add: I mean de-populating all kinds of people since the whole bunch of them keeps pissing me off. I'm not a Nazi, ok?]
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 07:25 AM by JanusFIN
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What I have learn about secrets of WWI and WWII, and great distortions in official history >
Real Nazis were, and still are The Zionists them self -
- Finance of Hitler and Nazi party
- Producers for ideology of National Socialism
- Making the ground for future uprising in Versailles
- Forcing other Jews, by Nazi propaganda, to move to Palestine before the war...
And list continues - And making well sense for me.
About "Holocaust" tm
Those Jews who suffer in WWII was not the "real" Jews in general, but eastern Khazars, and they were sacrificed for greater cause - building Israel
after the war - For making propaganda, and excuse to invade Palestine by the name of "horrific holocaust".
So, making my point in here;
If you say you are a "Nazi", in real you are one of them - "Hardcore Zionist"... So distorted is our view of life, and history of it! But still we
have to remember, that not all Jews are Zionist, and we should separate those from each others, somehow and save them from accusations in future,
because not all Zionist are Jews either - Those individuals we should find and targeted from these crimes against humanity.
I just know that not all of Jews are supporting Zionism... But because there is no clear sign from difference between them, I have to condemn all of
them, as a cruel and criminal nation today. So, after all I can say; I am not "Anti Semitic" or "Nazi" - but I feel my self as "Anti Zionist"
How I see Palestinians
They are just poor victims of modern Zionism - Like Khazars, and Gipsys were in WWII.
... Question about Israel is very complicated, if you not study hidden secrets and myths of history.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 07:30 AM by Raud
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Well...like the world could not get much more bizarre...
How do you say that in Finnish; Nyyt ritää saatana! (might be, eh, misspelled but you get me, right?)
I'm just gonna go sleep now and set the alarm clock on whenever people get their heads out of their asses...
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