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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 05:52 AM by badmedia
Originally posted by Lightmare
Wrong. The one world religion will consist of elements of ALL major religions fused together into a great big syncretized mess with a heavy dose of Theosophy. This should be common knowledge by now. There will not be a Christian World Order until Christ himself returns to establish it. The church is very much aware of this and will therefore NOT be setting up a "one world Christian religion". This is also common knowledge.


You mean like how the bible has a collection of stories from all kinds of different religions?

A religion is in itself a theosophy. Are you saying the bible doesn't talk of the nature of god etc?

And how do you explain the creation of a church of Christ before the return? For is not the christian church a religion which has sprung up centuries after Christ walked the earth and before his return?

Also, how do you explain how Christians are to be persecuted the entire time until the return of Jesus, and yet the most powerful position on earth(president of the US) is constantly occupied by so called "Christians".

You can go around saying you are Christian all the time. But if you actually talk about doing what Jesus said, you are denied and persecuted.

The Christian church is the Church of Satan. It teaches a wide path, when Jesus taught a narrow path. The rich man gets into heaven according to the church, but Jesus told that same rich man to go walk the path and sell his riches.

9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Christian wasn't a word at the time this was written, so "Christians" are actually Jews.


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 06:55 AM by moocowman
Originally posted by Lightmare
Originally posted by moocowman
the christian cult appears to be imploding but not without the flailing of its insectoid (real word?) limbs in places of asia and the minds of the ignorant.




What a hateful statement that was. Bigotry at its finest.



I fail to see how this is hateful bigotry, I am condemning the cult of christianity and not people. This is no different to your imaginary jesusgod hating homosexuality and not homosexuals, or is your god the original bigot?

Originally posted by moocowman
a nasty virus normally starts as 1% so the sensible thing is to eradicate it before it even gets to 3%.




Why are you suggesting that Christianity should be eradicated? Oh...I see, its because you think Christianity is a "nasty virus". Why are you so full of hatred and bigotry? I think you need psychological help.



Interestingly enough, some of the questions asked by psychiatrists when evaluating a patient are -

"Do you here voices in your head, like someone speaking to you?"

"Do you believe you are special in some way, and have been selected for a special purpose ?"

"Do you have a friend that no one else can see or hear?"


Needless to say an affirmative answer is normally diagnosed as delusion.
One must also bear in mind that your imaginary friend, by your own definition of bigotry is indeed a bigot.
Of course any actions you take in life, you can attribute to the instruction of your delusion.

I however have to take responsibility for my actions, which I am now doing and pointing out to you, that your cult is damaging other people. Acting under orders was not acceptable at Nuremberg and is certainly not acceptable to billions of people who don't share your delusion.







Originally posted by badmedia
Sounds like the christian church is trying to establish a 1 world religion to me.




Wrong. The one world religion will consist of elements of ALL major religions fused together into a great big syncretized mess with a heavy dose of Theosophy. This should be common knowledge by now. There will not be a Christian World Order until Christ himself returns to establish it. The church is very much aware of this and will therefore NOT be setting up a "one world Christian religion". This is also common knowledge.


So do you have any evidence att all to back up these claims, or is this relayed to you via someone elses' dreams ?


As for the rest, this is the stupidest thread I have seen in months. Another "Lets bash Christians" thread. Very, very stupid. Seriously.


This is not a bash christians thread more like a bashing of christianity thread. Unlike your cult, if you don't like our views you can just say no thanks and continue with your delusion. Just like tv but unlike the christian cult you can just reach for the off button at any time you've had your fill.



[edit on 12/11/2008 by Lightmare]




reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:23 AM by mr.m79
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by mr.m79

Here's a taste of that one:
"Violence first broke out on December 24 during an altercation between Hindus and Christians over Christmas celebrations in Orissa’s Kandhamal district. A group of Christians then attacked the vehicle of a local leader of a right-wing Hindu organization. In retaliation, Hindu mobs burned down at least 19 churches, and attacked church officials. Christians then began to attack Hindu properties. A number of villagers have fled their homes to escape the violence. The state government failed to act quickly, leaving vulnerable groups at risk, which enabled the violence to escalate over the last four days. The exact death toll in these clashes is still unknown, though the media have reported the deaths of at least eight people."



So, my Hindu pal, when the Christian Missionaries come to the door, and you aren't interested in their pitch...just say "No Thanks". Trust me, it works pretty good.

[edit on 11-12-2008 by JohnnyCanuck]


HELLO BROTHERS & SISTERS,
I AM VERY THANKFUL TO ALL OF YOU FOR REPLYING & DISCUSSING ON THIS SUBJECT ( AND I AM SORRY MY ENGLISH IS NOT GOOD )

HELLO SRI JohnnyCanuck , AS OF U HEARD OR WAT U READ IN THE NEWS PAPER IS NOT REALLY A TRUE IT TRUE Violence broke out on December 24
BECAUSE THE Christian Missionaries & THEIR SUPPORTERS KILLED Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, 4 others HINDUS FIRST,
HE WAS KILLED JUST BECAUSE HE RECONVERTED ALL THE HINDUS WHO WHERE FORCED TO CONVERT AS Christians , AND EDUCATED THEM AND TECH ED THEM WAT IS HINDUISM

THIS THING HAPPENED ONCE IN THE PAST DO U REMEMBER ?
EXACTLY IT IS IN THE HOLLY BIBLE YES IT HAPPENED TO CHRIST HIMSELF NOW U TELL ME THEY DID A RIGHT THINK OR WRONG ?THANKING U R BROTHER ( AND PLZ REMEMBER NO ONE IS SINNER ,EVERY ONE IS BLESSED BY GOD )
OM SHANTHI....


reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 07:48 AM by mr.m79
reply to post by AshleyD



NAMASTE,
DEAR FRN BASICALLY INDIA IS A HINDU COUNTRY NO ONE IS A BORN CHRISTIAN HERE , THEIR FATHER , GRAND FATHERS WHERE CONVERTED UNDER THE NOZZLE OF GUN BY THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES

THEY WHERE (HINDUS) FORCED TO CONVERTED TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILY'S BEING KILLED BY THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES, THIS WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE PAST OK.

AND NOW THE HINDUS ACTING VERY VIOLENTLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEIR CULTURE LIKE " EGYPT " ONE OF THE GREATEST CULTURE WHICH HAS NO MATCH IN ANY FORM IN ART & CULTURE & FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE.

" ALL THESE GREAT ART , CULTURE & KNOWLEDGE DESTROYED JUST BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY & CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES "
GO SEARCH THE PAGES OF HISTORY WHERE EVER CHRISTIANITY GOT CONTROL OVER ANY REGION THEY LOST EVERY THINK ........MENACE EVERY THINK ,

CHRISTIANITY IT`S JUST A BRAIN WASHING , THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE , IN INDIA PPL BELIEVE IN JYOTISHASTRA (ASTROLOGY) WHICH IS ALSO A VERY OLD SCIENCE , OUR GURUS AND SANYASI`S (PRIEST ) HAD THE KNOWLEDGE AT THAT TIME THAT THERE ARE 9 PLANETS AND SURYA (SUN ) IS IN THE CENTER ,BUT THE FACT IS " GALILEO " KILLED BECAUSE HE DISCOVERED "Galileo's views about the sun-centered solar system " AND ASKED Pope Urban VIII succeeded Pope Paul V and the Accademia dei Lincei TO MAKE CORRECTION IN BIBLE "
(FOR MORE INFORMATION)

courses.science.fau.edu...


SUCH RELIGION WHICH DO NOT RESPECT ANY HUMANITY WHICH IS TRYING TO CONQUER THE WORLD CAN HAVE ANY THING TO GIVE THE WORLD OR CAN MOVE WORLD TOWARDS PEACE .....? I doubt

BUT U CAN EXPECT FROM HINDUISM COS IT ACCEPTS THE FACTS & TEACHES ABOUT THE DUTY OF THE A PERSON IN LIFE , IT TEACHES TO RESPECT THE PARENTS, ELDERS, FRIENDS "

" IN GEETA, The Holy Book of Hindus SRI KRISHNA SAY'S
"HE WHO REGARDS WELL WISHERS,FRIENDS,FOES,NEUTRALS,MEDIATOR,THE OBJECTS OF HATRED,RELATIVES, THE VIRTUOUS & THE SINFUL ALIKE, STANDS SUPREME "


THIS IS HINDUISM ......

BUT THE PROPAGANDA AGAINST HINDUISM IS ALL AROUND THE WORLD ,
NOW I HAV A CHALLENGE 4 U (CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES) IF U HAV GUTS GO TO A MUSLIM COUNTRY TRY TO CONVERT ANY MUSLIM THE NEXT MINUTE U R APPOINTMENT WITH GOD WILL BE FIXED , BUT IT WON`T HAPPEN IN HINDUSTAN (INDIA) BECAUSE WE TREAT " JESUS & BUDDHA " EQUALLY ...

NAMASTE .SarvE janAha sukhino Bhavanthu.("Let everyone be happy”.)


reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 12:48 PM by TruthParadox
reply to post by mr.m79



I don't see any problem. See, here in America (and much of the world for that matter), we believe that it should be up to the individual. Most Christians aren't violent (just slightly annoying ). If you see a Christian that is violent, report him/her. However, maybe you should have more faith in your own religion. If it's worthy of your faith, then you should have faith that it's worthy of other's faith who will likewise not betray their faith .


reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 03:21 PM by EricD
reply to post by mr.m79



Wow. Where to begin?

I'm going to assume that some of your post that is patently ridiculous is actually due to the language barrier (by the way, your command of English is far better than mine of any other language, so that is not intended as an insult in any way), such as considering astrology a science. Perhaps you meant astronomy?

1) People are born into Christian families in India and are raised Christian since birth.

2) Galileo was not killed by the Church or by Christians. He died at the age of 78 after seeking and receiving the best medical care of his time.

3) Christianity had nothing to do with the downfall of Egypt.

4) Some of the greatest universities in the world were founded by Christians and were intended to be guided by Christian ideals.

5) There are Christian missionaries in muslim countries. They are met with death regularly.

6) Please use both uppercase and lowercase letters. All uppercase letters makes your postings difficult to read (for me anyway).

Have a nice weekend!

Eric



reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 01:14 AM by mr.m79
reply to post by EricD


i am sorry brothers & sisters my English is not good

thank u for your suggestion bro, any how i posted this article coz person converted in India was not allowed to meet their family's & Hindu frns,their are not allowed to go to any Hindu marriage and other function .I have my personal experience my uncles only son (many other) is also converted to Christianity now he is not coming home & he`s trying to convert his sister also , for Hindu family a son is more important ,now he is living with other converted students (" he was converted in college by Campus Crusade for Christ ) , i don't know why ppl believe in religion and believe more than humanity . we don't mind that he converted to Christianity , but he is not looking after his parents & sis that`s why we are angry ,this not good think no one has right to break a family....... not in name of religion & believe. u might think that Hindus killed Christians in orissa (India) only the adivassi , their family's & frns know the fact ....

come and visit India, u can c photo of Jesus in Hindu house who feels no difference btw Jesus & Buddha , but a (converted) christian finds differences.....



for u r kind information plz see YT link

in.youtube.com...


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 01:53 PM by saint4God
I can't help but wonder how missionaries (Christian or otherwise) are able to get guns through the airports.

I did hear in the news a few days ago about a hotel in Mumbai being attacked by a group seeking out to kill Americans. They had guns and grenades...but I'm sure that was a 'reaction' too, eh?


Scherr and his daughter were in the restaurant with other Synchronicity travelers when gunmen burst into the hotel and started shooting, Cannon said.
...
He said the hotel looked like "a bombed-out war zone."

"Bodies [were] everywhere, glass, everything broken and smoky," he said of the hotel, where grenades had exploded and fires had burned.

On his way out, police asked him if he could identify any remains, he said.

Cannon said he stepped over bodies and walked through pools of blood in the restaurant to get to the table where Alan and Naomi had been sitting.

"I found and identified Alan and Naomi, who were laying under the table, heads facing each other and their arms outstretched to each other and overlapping," he said. "It [was] one of the most challenging things I have ever had to do in my life, to identify the remains of two people who I loved like family."


Christian thinking like this must be stopped?:


"We must send them our love, forgiveness and compassion," Kia Scherr told reporters Tuesday of the Mumbai attackers, nine of whom were killed by Indian forces.

... we must show that love is possible and love overpowers fear. So that's my choice."
www.cnn.com... .html?iref=newssearch

[edit on 16-12-2008 by saint4God]


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 11:31 AM by dominicus
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck



Simply based upon that sentence, I find that I have to disagree with you. I'm happy for you that you have found a path to spiritual enlightenment through Christianity. But your words tell me that you are dismissive of any other paths or religions. And that does create problems ...


I guess what I was trying to say is that after studying Hinduism for many years and knowing personally a handful of Hindu's, my personal conclusion was that Hinduism is polytheistic, idol worshipping, and non of the Hindu's I know claim Enlightenment (something that is only claimed by the Highest priests/monks)

So I see the movement as one where most Hindu's go their entire existence w/o ever reaching Enlightenment, something that is usually only claimed by Hindu monks, plus I feel like Hinduism is Old School and is the Old path to God. When Jesus came he updated the formula and made it the easiest way possible on this planet to receive the freedom that comes from Enlightenment.

I Used to be an atheist, Buddhist, then became a Christian all the while studying all paths, and personally the Christian one made the most sense, quickest, easiest, most graceful and so on. All the other paths required decades upon decades of meditation to achieve what God freely gives in the Xtian path in a few months or so.

So thats my whole thing. I feel like if Buddhism, Hinduism and many other old school spiritual paths were/are the right ones, then Jesus would never have to come because we would have what we need. Im not going to discuss Islam in this whole matter because for now I completely dismiss it as a relevant path, until I can study more on it.

Hinduism itself points at a future savior, whom I personally believe was a reference to Jesus.


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 12:04 PM by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by dominicus
I guess what I was trying to say is that after studying Hinduism for many years and knowing personally a handful of Hindu's, my personal conclusion was that Hinduism is polytheistic, idol worshipping, and non of the Hindu's I know claim Enlightenment (something that is only claimed by the Highest priests/monks)


Either you have not studied hinduism and are lying or you didn't study but rather skimmed throught it and understood nothing!

Hinduism believes in ONE god and one god only!

One god, many names!
God is shapeless, therefore has many shapes
God is nameless, therefore has many names.

Since everything is God, you cannot ascribe an individual name and form to it

People even hold their hands together and say namaste to humans, because hindus believe even people have a little god in them.

If you do not understand this while saying that you studied hinduism, I suggest and hope that you "study" ALOT more and until then not comment on hinduism again until that time comes.

When you think there are many gods, those are just reincarnations of god, that's all.


Originally posted by dominicus
I Used to be an atheist, Buddhist, then became a Christian all the while studying all paths, and personally the Christian one made the most sense, quickest, easiest, most graceful and so on. All the other paths required decades upon decades of meditation to achieve what God freely gives in the Xtian path in a few months or so.


You are basically saying that you are lazy and took the easiest solution for what you were looking for. Which most likely means you were never looking for anything in the first place.
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