Well, if cartoons are to be considered people, then we had better crack down on the animators... they're restricting their right to, well, just about
everything.
Darn animators, locking those poor cartoons up in their desks and tying them up on their drawing boards... shoving them through scanners. Darn fascist
animators!
lol.
Cartoon porn kids are people, judge says in Simpsons porn case, page 3
privacy
It's more likely
(and was intended) to be something that will be drawn from whatever shoe box her mother (my sister) decides to store it in for embarrassment purposes
on her 18th birthday, of her wedding day something like that. 
reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 02:54 AM by Mercenary2007
reply to post by Now_Then
under the law yes its child porn. i know it sounds stupid but yes it is. don't get me wrong i see nothing wrong with it and i understand your intentions with it. yes in your case its harmless and funny. I'm a parent myself and see nothing wrong with the intentions you had.
and yes i agree that society is getting way out of hand with a lot of things, you can see proof of that in this thread.
I'm going to assume that you made that card on your computer, If you did and if anything happens to your computer and you have to take it to a repair shop, or have a tech come to your house and work on it. just hope they don't find those pics on your computer. They will call the cops and you'll have to answer to them about the pics.
Its stupid i know but a friend of mine took a pic of his son he was almost a year old, naked laying on his stomach from his sons head but off to the side a little bit. he had it on his computer to print it out and his computer crashed. took the computer to a repair shop they recovered his computer went through the files saved on his hard drive and seen that pic and called the police on him. He spent several thousands of dollars fighting it in court before he was found not guilty.
under the law yes its child porn. i know it sounds stupid but yes it is. don't get me wrong i see nothing wrong with it and i understand your intentions with it. yes in your case its harmless and funny. I'm a parent myself and see nothing wrong with the intentions you had.
and yes i agree that society is getting way out of hand with a lot of things, you can see proof of that in this thread.
I'm going to assume that you made that card on your computer, If you did and if anything happens to your computer and you have to take it to a repair shop, or have a tech come to your house and work on it. just hope they don't find those pics on your computer. They will call the cops and you'll have to answer to them about the pics.
Its stupid i know but a friend of mine took a pic of his son he was almost a year old, naked laying on his stomach from his sons head but off to the side a little bit. he had it on his computer to print it out and his computer crashed. took the computer to a repair shop they recovered his computer went through the files saved on his hard drive and seen that pic and called the police on him. He spent several thousands of dollars fighting it in court before he was found not guilty.
reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 03:19 AM by AgentOrangeJuice
Originally posted by Mercenary2007
reply to post by Now_Then
under the law yes its child porn.
No its actually not.
It is according to that particular Judge in that particular place in Australia at this particular time.
For example the site nastydisney.com is full of that stuff and is hosted Dallas and Houston through the planet internet and has been since 2002.
And has its images plastered all over Google images.
If it was illegal, they would be shutdown and in jail.
There is hundreds of sites of this cartoon parody which depicts sex acts of cartoon characters all over Google images.
A cartoon character is not a person because, they don't exist.
They are a figment of peoples imagination.
reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 03:39 AM by Jomina
reply to post by Mercenary2007
Just to be clear.. I dont know about australia's laws regarding nudity depicted in photography/art/etc involving children, but in america....
The depiction of adults and children nude in the visual media has enjoyed constitutional protection in the United States since 1958, when the Supreme Court vacated a Court of Appeals finding that Sunshine & Health magazine could be obscene (Sunshine Book Co. v. Summerfield, Postmaster General, 355 U.S. 372). The right to depict adults and children in innocent nude poses has been upheld without a pause for 41 years. In case after case, the Supreme Court and lower courts have always upheld the constitutionality of "nudity without more," specifically referring to the nudist depiction as a fully constitutional form of expression.
(from www.bebaretoo.com 's website regarding legality and issues. You can find the same info elsewhere on the net, google naturism legality)
Just to be clear.. I dont know about australia's laws regarding nudity depicted in photography/art/etc involving children, but in america....
The depiction of adults and children nude in the visual media has enjoyed constitutional protection in the United States since 1958, when the Supreme Court vacated a Court of Appeals finding that Sunshine & Health magazine could be obscene (Sunshine Book Co. v. Summerfield, Postmaster General, 355 U.S. 372). The right to depict adults and children in innocent nude poses has been upheld without a pause for 41 years. In case after case, the Supreme Court and lower courts have always upheld the constitutionality of "nudity without more," specifically referring to the nudist depiction as a fully constitutional form of expression.
(from www.bebaretoo.com 's website regarding legality and issues. You can find the same info elsewhere on the net, google naturism legality)
reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 04:00 AM by Mercenary2007
reply to post by AgentOrangeJuice
you really want to take a chance a judge in the U.S. wouldn't find you guilty of child porn the way the Judges have been going here lately i wouldn't put it past them.
And yes any picture that shows an uderage child naked is child porn in this day and age. whether it is innocent or for the purposes of child porn.
its not like when i was a kid or my parents were kids when you could take a picture like that it is wasn't child porn! it was an innocent picture taken by a parent of their kid just to embarrass them when they were older.
as for the cartoon pictures. all it takes is for a the right church leader to see their kids looking at those cartoon pictures and the judges will start ruling the same way here in the states. I guess for now we are lucky that judges here in the states know the difference between cartoon people and a real person.
reply to post by Jomina
if that was the case then people that have pics of underage children posing nude would not be arrested and charged with federal child porn charges in the U.S. they would only be charged with child porn charges if the underage child was performing a sexual act.
Which was not the case with my friend. he was charged in federal court for child porn for taking a pic of his son naked on laying on his stomach from his head. you couldn't see his privates just a butt check!
And yes this was in America!
Now as for Now_Then i was only warning him of what could happen if a computer tech saw those pics on his computer. who is the cops and CPS going to believe him or the computer tech? They will believe the computer tech over the person they suspect of having child porn!
you really want to take a chance a judge in the U.S. wouldn't find you guilty of child porn the way the Judges have been going here lately i wouldn't put it past them.
And yes any picture that shows an uderage child naked is child porn in this day and age. whether it is innocent or for the purposes of child porn.
its not like when i was a kid or my parents were kids when you could take a picture like that it is wasn't child porn! it was an innocent picture taken by a parent of their kid just to embarrass them when they were older.
as for the cartoon pictures. all it takes is for a the right church leader to see their kids looking at those cartoon pictures and the judges will start ruling the same way here in the states. I guess for now we are lucky that judges here in the states know the difference between cartoon people and a real person.
reply to post by Jomina
if that was the case then people that have pics of underage children posing nude would not be arrested and charged with federal child porn charges in the U.S. they would only be charged with child porn charges if the underage child was performing a sexual act.
Which was not the case with my friend. he was charged in federal court for child porn for taking a pic of his son naked on laying on his stomach from his head. you couldn't see his privates just a butt check!
And yes this was in America!
Now as for Now_Then i was only warning him of what could happen if a computer tech saw those pics on his computer. who is the cops and CPS going to believe him or the computer tech? They will believe the computer tech over the person they suspect of having child porn!
reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 04:03 AM by Harlequin
reply to post by Mercenary2007
amazing
i have a picture of my baby daughter , aged 10 minutes old , she is on her mother feeding and totally naked - so in your opinion i should be arrested and thrown in prison for saving such a tender moment.
amazing
Child porn is any pic of an underage child with there clothes off. They could just be modeling, or performing a sexual act.
i have a picture of my baby daughter , aged 10 minutes old , she is on her mother feeding and totally naked - so in your opinion i should be arrested and thrown in prison for saving such a tender moment.
reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 04:26 AM by Mercenary2007
Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by Mercenary2007
amazing
Child porn is any pic of an underage child with there clothes off. They could just be modeling, or performing a sexual act.
i have a picture of my baby daughter , aged 10 minutes old , she is on her mother feeding and totally naked - so in your opinion i should be arrested and thrown in prison for saving such a tender moment.
i guess you can't read huh??? never once did i say a parent should be arrested for pics like that. i said that is how society is going! learn to read then you won't look like you do now.
I didn't say i thought the pics Now_then or you are talking about was child porn or that he should be arrested!
i said under the law the pics he was talking about was child porn. and yes any pic of an underage child naked is child porn under the law. and don't be fooled by Jomina's post see they failed to mention that the pics had to be taken before 1995 to be exempt! and the children represented in those pics had to be over the age of 14! maybe he should have read 18 U.S.C. section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. 75
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