If there was a law against being utterly bizarre then the judge should have thrown the book at him. As it is I can't really see how this thing was justified, now all his family and friends and stuff know he's a weirdo and probably screwed his life up nicely.

Hey and judges are all hypocrites, they get up to a lot worse than this!

The USA tried to have the same type of laws dealing with computer generated child pornography with Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996.

Our Supreme Court found it unconstitutional in the Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition lawsuit.

Good, bad or indifferent; the intent of the law was apparent.

Several very good points have been mentioned throughout this thread. Who is actually being victimized with cartoon animation or cartoon pictures?

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
I’m disgusted by the type of explicit artwork mentioned, however I don’t feel this court decision was just. And I’m fearful that if you take away fake characters for predators to relieve “tension” with and obsess faintly over you are only encouraging them to look at the real thing. Why not if the only alternative is just as illegal? Do I think it is healthy or right for someone to view real or fake pictures that depict children in sexual acts? NO. However there is a difference between morality and legality. Is being in possession of real child porn a crime? Absolutely. But in this instance there were no children involved, just drawings. This might not be a popular opinion, but please refrain from flaming me if you disagree.

I've read all your post and I agree 100%. A cartoon isn't real. Which is probably why the guy could only be fined. The judge was pushing his own feelings on it, but the law only allowed so much.

People here claim to have woke up, but you are still sleeping when you are still trying to protect the children so blindly. Hell we are all still children. Anyhow, until society changes none of it will go away. You all aid in creating this problem, but you don't want to fix it.

I'm sure you've all said at some point in your life that you hope someone would die or something similar. In that case if you owned something that could kill a person, and who doesn't, just for saying it we could arrest you just in case you were serious.

It's always ok to walk all over the rights of someone you care nothing about, but when your turn comes, why that's just unfair.

I think that unless a law was in place banning the producing or viewing of that content, he shouldn't have been fined.

Even so, I find it disgusting, myself, and I believe the production and viewing of such materials only fuels the pedo's fire. More importantly, it causes young kids viewing this content for the first time to have warped sexual urges they might not have had before viewing it. It may put their siblings in danger, kids are very impressionable and do as they see done. I know my own little one will do an action move as soon as he sees the cartoon character do it. I'm sure the response to that will be to censure what your child views, but how many children can be guarded every second of the day, and what about when they go over to a friend's house. I'd be happy to know this sort of content is illegal which at least puts a speedbump in the area for the protection of our children. And by the way, not everyone who wants to protect their children has "not thought out the ramifications" of the laws put into place. It's all a matter of priority.



[edit on 8-12-2008 by mmariebored]

i think i've seen these cartoons, among others, got them in an e-mail. they're a bit sick and crude but, meh. do i think it makes me, or the person who sent them, a peado? no, not even a little bit. the point of the images is clearly satirical rather than erotic.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, being fined for naked cartoons - give me a break. And some of you are actually defending it as if it was a good decision by the judge.

It sounds more like the person had this as a joke or something rather than actually deriving any pleasure out of it. If this was something he found appealing he would have loads of that hentai anime stuff on his machine dont you think ?

Either way, this is lame.

well, if you have these pictures on the internet, you should track down the ORIGINAL SOURCE and PUNISH THEM. Not a USER.

Its like a drug rink, you take down the DISTRIBUTOR and you KILL the operation.

Going after one low level user is such a waste of resources...

but as long as it makes the local law enforcement feel important.....

Originally posted by ConservativeJack
well, if you have these pictures on the internet, you should track down the ORIGINAL SOURCE and PUNISH THEM. Not a USER.

Its like a drug rink, you take down the DISTRIBUTOR and you KILL the operation.

Going after one low level user is such a waste of resources...

but as long as it makes the local law enforcement feel important.....

I take it your talking about Chief Wiggum ?

This is absolutely ridiculous. I've been sent images like that in mass e-mails, intended as just a 'joke'. I hope I don't get hauled off to court for it and have my name dragged through the mud. While it is distasteful and i'd rather not see it, no one was harmed in the creation of it. The judge is a moron.

I am not going to get into the legal aspects here because they have already been touched on.

Anything that two consenting ADULTS (meaning of legal age) do in their bedrooms is not the business of the government or anyone reading this. Similarly what one person does in his or her bedroom, that does not cause harm to anyone else, is not the business of the government or any other individual.

The whole problem with child pornography is that children are exploited and many times hurt (both physically and mentally) by the act. When you get right down to it, the pictures are not the real concern; it is the safety of the kids. Governments are justified in making laws regarding the restriction of such material.

The debate here is whether or not computer generated or hand drawn images should be restricted. An image that does not depict an actual human being should not be in the same category as child pornography.

I personally have no problem with someone “enjoying” an illustration (computer generate or hand drawn) of any kind, as long as they do not go out and trample the rights of anyone else. This goes for everyone, not just those viewing underage illustrations. If a person watches a pornographic event consisting of two willing adults, and then goes out and rapes someone, I think we can all agree that said individual is more guilty than these illustration viewers.

I see some posts making the argument that a person who views these images is likely to go out and abuse a child. I do not believe anyone can determine this. It is just as likely that a person have these images and never even touches a child. Further, I don’t personally go about judging how other people live their sexual lives (as long as members are consenting or non-existent).

Ok, I asked those that were assuming that this guy was a child predator a reason for their assumption. I thought that there may have been some evidence, and that I missed it. I guess not. Pedophilia and pornography are clearly two different things. There are several well adjusted, sane, non-criminal contributors to society who enjoy porn. This does not mean that they get their jolly's looking at kids. I do not understand why people cannot differentiate the two. Perhaps they are the ones with the problems.

Also, this had been said several times...What we are talkin' about here with the Simpson's pics... This aint even porn people. Let alone child porn. There are no victims. No one is being harmed. I do not see an intent to harm. It's BS like this that takes away from real problems, and there is someone out there who IS getting away with harming a child, because the resources are being wasted.

Simpson porn??
You mean those yellow guys???
What The Hell?

You could probably find 'blueberry muffin porn' these days...