The Largest Conspiracy of All Time

reply to post by motherof2two


NO. Because every war comes down to this. The Roman Empire has you shackled society because they choose to buy in the fraudulent story of a man that was born of a virgin and died on a cross. When in reality it was a mortal man and a dictator that has lead humanity through several holocausts. Believe what you want, but do so at your own risk.

So, again you defy logic and provide no references or cannot substantiation fou your claims. In the beginning you were benevolent and Godly.....lol..now you are sounding like a Luciferian, Satanist, or zionist Jew that believes in the Talmud....or TALL MUD. Maybe a regressing atheist. Where are your references?????

reply to post by tgambill


Do me a favor. Go to Wikipedia and take a look. Just Go and look.

46 BC coorelates with 1 BC
45 BC coorelates with 1 AD
44 BC coorelates with 2 AD
43 BC coorelates with 3 AD
and so on.....

13 BC coorelates to 33 AD

Go ahead check, see for your self.

Not only that but you will also notice a lack of events from 21 BC- 2 BC and 1 AD- 33AD.

What you will also see is that after 34 AD Octavians family members also start to mysteriously get killed after the year 34 AD.

You will also notice key events signifying the Rise of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE in both the years 13 BC and 33 AD.

Either these are the same years, or ROME rose to power twice.

oops double post!

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MO2, I am beside myself at what you wrote. There is no way I could even begin to improve upon it. You are speaking the absolute truth and the one that will give us prosecution when the world order has started. We will be raptured before the tribulations but not before the persecutions. There will be a great shaking of the U.S. to get their attention before the Rapture. The second coming of Jesus will not happen until the man of sin and the anti-christ has had their time. The Rapture is not considered to part of his return. At the Rapture those born again of the spirit will see Jesus but the non-believers will not see him. His feet will not touch down. However, once the Anti-christ takes over the clock starts for 7 years and all will then see the son of the Living God in his full glory.

Our time as a nation is short now. The Chinese and Russians are deployed in Mexico as I write. It is confirmed by many sources. Every Illegal knows this as they are promised if they cooperate their land will be returned to them. This secret is not well known outside the Mexican culture. Russians are located in Cuba, South America, Alaska and on the border of Canada. They have subs on the West and East coast and finally UN and Russians are inside the US now. UN vehicles by the thousands are co-located in a site I have not identified exactly.

Christians, pastors, priests, Evangelicals, non-believers whomever aren't aware how close we are. The falling away to the new age religion has also begun by Billy Graham, Joel Osteen, Hagee, Hagin, Shueller, Paisley, Braizer, TD Jakes, Benny Hinn are turning away from the truth as evidenced by their own words or actions.....Jesus is coming soon.

Oh, I research and here is a fraction of my research...

UN in the United States?

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Forty black uniformed foreign cops reported at Virginia truck stop on I-81

Al Cuppett US Army & Action Officer, the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Retired) 366 Graves Mill Rd, Madison, VA 22727 – May 18, 2007

Somewhere about 30 miles south of Harrisonburg, VA, on I-81 is a truck stop. I believe it’s the one near Raphine, VA. However, regardless, there is a particular truck stop on I-81 because I have been there several times and seen the small arms display featured by the truck stop owner. The weapons are locked under glass and among the many guns displayed is a .45 ACP Thompson WWII submachine gun.

Last week, 7-11 May 2007, a US “citizen” who reads “my stuff”” observed four unmarked vans pull into this particular truck stop. He purposely counted the [exactly] forty black uniformed men; i.e., ten men per van, as they dismounted. He later verified the “body count” in the restaurant: Forty! The vehicles were the 10-12 passenger models such as senior citizens are shuttled around in. The windows were shaded “absolutely dark”.

The troops, who were wearing “NATO Black” BDU’s, [NO IDENTIFYING INSIGNIA VISIBLE] were all 6 feet tall, or above, and all under 30 years old. They exhibited “military bearing”, had short haircuts; and were also “throwing their weight around”, making their presence obvious.

Shortly, our “citizen” encountered one of the “officers”, who by the way, was not carrying a visible sidearm, that is, the 9mm Makerov which Clinton imported in 1994 to the tune of 700, 000. He was looking at the gun display; particularly the Thompson. “Nice gun” citizen says. The reply was, “Yeah”.

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Russians

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History of China and Mexico

www.chinadaily.com.cn...

Chinese Troops On The US-Mexican Border…

by

Dennis & Ann Bossack

DNA LIVE RADIO

www.ufolab.info

505-546-4170

January 10, 2003

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006

Chinese military trains in Latin America

By Aussiegirl

So, what are we doing about this kettle of fish? According to the article "We know almost nothing" about Chinese military and intelligence activities in the region. What is our CIA doing? We can't be focusing all our attention on the WOT in the Middle East and forgetting that we have encroaching dangers in our own hemisphere. I have been writing about China's increasing presence in our hemisphere for some time -- they are increasing their presence not only in Latin America, but in Canada and even the Caribbean. Let's bring back the old Monroe Doctrine. The information that China may even be supplying missiles to Cuba has a familiar and ominous ring to it -- remember the Cuban missile crisis? We came that close to nuclear confronation with the USSR back then.

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Chinese military trains in West

China is stepping up military training in Latin America because of a law that limits U.S. military support to nations in the region, the general in charge of the U.S. Southern Command told Congress yesterday.

Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, who oversees U.S. military activities in the region, said a lack of engagement on the part of the United States has benefited China.

"If we are not there and we can't provide this opportunity, someone else will," Gen. Craddock told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

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The Associated Press reports Mexican army convoys and a navy ship laden with food, supplies and specialists traveled to the United States on Wednesday to help in the Hurricane Katrina relief effort:

A convoy of 45 vehicles and 196 soldiers arrived at the border city of Nuevo Laredo Wednesday evening. It was to cross into U.S. territory early Thursday, Gen. Francisco Ortiz Valadez told reporters as his men refueled at a local gas station.

He said the troops would help refugee operations in San Antonio, Texas.



The convoy is the first Mexican military unit to operate on U.S. soil since 1846, when Mexican troops briefly marched into Texas, after it separated from Mexico and joined the United States.

cayankee.blogs.com...

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China’s Massive Port Grab

Communists Positioning China To Dominate Trade in Americas

Mark Anderson

American Free Press / January 8, 2007

American Free Press has confirmed that the huge Chinese shipping conglomerate Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. has a significant presence at the Lazaro Cardenas seaport in Mexico, as well as other Mexican ports. The company has had effective control of both ends of the Panama Canal for the last seven years.



The Mexican ports link to the budding Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) toll road network by way of railroad cargo lines that head from the ports across Mexico to the United States border, providing a conduit to bypass U.S. West Coast seaports and haul ever-more massive quantities of imports into the United States.

www.outlawjournalism.com...

Chinese military hackers have prepared a detailed plan to disable America’s aircraft battle carrier fleet with a devastating cyber attack, according to a Pentagon report obtained by The Times.

The blueprint for such an assault, drawn up by two hackers working for the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), is part of an aggressive push by Beijing to achieve “electronic dominance” over each of its global rivals by 2050, particularly the US, Britain, Russia and South Korea.

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The Mexican ports link to the budding Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) toll road network by way of railroad cargo lines that head from the ports across Mexico to the United States border, providing a conduit to bypass U.S. West Coast seaports and haul ever-more massive quantities of imports into the United States.

www.outlawjournalism.com...

Chinese military hackers have prepared a detailed plan to disable America’s aircraft battle carrier fleet with a devastating cyber attack, according to a Pentagon report obtained by The Times.

The blueprint for such an assault, drawn up by two hackers working for the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), is part of an aggressive push by Beijing to achieve “electronic dominance” over each of its global rivals by 2050, particularly the US, Britain, Russia and South Korea.

China’s ambitions extend to crippling an enemy’s financial, military and communications capabilities early in a conflict, according to military documents and generals’ speeches that are being analysed by US intelligence officials. Describing what is in effect a new arms race, a Pentagon assessment states that China’s military regards offensive computer operations as “critical to seize the initiative” in the first stage of a war.

The plan to cripple the US aircraft carrier battle groups was authored by two PLA air force officials, Sun Yiming and Yang Liping. It also emerged this week that the Chinese military hacked into the US Defence Secretary’s computer system in June; have regularly penetrated computers in at least 10 Whitehall departments, including military files, and infiltrated German government systems this year.



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GUESS WHO HAS HELPED THEM.......to invade.

DANGEROUS ALLIES: A special report.; U.S. Helps Mexico's Army Take a Big Anti-Drug Role

By TIM GOLDEN

Published: December 29, 1997

''They have basically got to rebuild their entire police force,'' a senior drug-enforcement official said of the Mexican Government. ''You can't do that in a year or two. And the longer the emphasis is put on the military, the longer it is going to take to get the police up and running.''

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Toward a new Cuba-Russia alliance?

August 16, 2008 By Salim Lamrani

"By way of responding, Putin made a call for the restoration of relations with Cuba, without ruling out military cooperation. "We must reestablish our position in Cuba and other countries," he said. The Western media alluded to the eventual installation of a Russian military base in the Caribbean that might cause a new crisis similar to the one in October 1962, which almost ended in a nuclear Apocalypse. (4)"

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Russia sends warships on military exercise in America's 'backyard' as the new Cold War intensifies

By Will Stewart In Moscow

Last updated at 1:24 AM on 23rd September 2008

www.dailymail.co.uk...

"Military leaders in the country have also threatened to base bombers in Cuba, deliberately evoking comparisons with the 1962 Cuba missile crisis in which the USA and the Soviet Union came close to all-out war after the Red Army shipped missiles to the Caribbean island.

President Hugo Chavez has embarked on a five-nation foreign tour which includes a red carpet visit to Moscow where he will be lauded for standing up the United States.



Kremlin prime minister Vladimir Putin's push to the Caribbean will act as a warning to the next U.S. president, to be elected in November, that despite the world current financial turbulence, Moscow is again a force to be reckoned with following a massive oil-fuelled economic recovery since the fall of the USSR.

Military analyst Alexander Golts said: 'It's a show of the Kremlin irritation about the U.S. deployment to Georgia. It's a signal to the United States: you have broken into our zone of influence, and we will show you that we can enter yours."

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Russian military team in Cuba

October 28th, 2008 - 2:30 pm ICT by IANS -

Moscow, Oct 28 (IANS)) In what may be seen as Moscow’s growing defence collaboration with Latin American countries, a Russian military delegation is in Cuba to review the island nation’s defence preparedness.The Russian team, headed by air chief General Alexander Maslov, will visit air defence units to discuss training of Cuban personnel in modern weaponry and command and communication system, EFE reported Tuesday.

“The two sides will share experiences in organising air defences and discuss the possibility of training Cubans in modern military techniques at Russian training centres,” Russian army spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.

General Maslov will also meet the chief of the Cuban general staff, Alvaro Lopez Miera, and the commander of Cuba’s air force, Pedro Gomez.

In recent months, Russia has established ties with Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Cuba and even US ally Colombia.

In September, Russian vice-prime minister Igor Sechin travelled to Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba to meet his counterparts and discuss the possibility of increasing economic, military and political cooperation.

The same month, two Russian T-160 strategic bombers visited Venezuela for a joint military exercise and a Russian navy squadron has carried out joint war games with the Venezuelan navy.

Moscow also has begun preliminary discussions with Cuba to help the country develop its space centre, has vowed to replace the Nicaraguan army’s aging weaponry and has started talks with Venezuela about developing a peaceful nuclear energy programme.

Bolivian President Evo Morales has announced that he will seek Russia’s aid for the country’s fight against drug trafficking.

Colombia’s Defence Minister Juan Manuel Santos has travelled to Russia to discuss military cooperation.

www.thaindian.com...

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This has no revelance to the discussions and wilki is not credible by no stretch of the imagination

reply to post by tgambill


Thats an incredible amount of info you put together there. My question is, where did you get this information about Russian troops and UN soldiers already in the US?

I am not afraid of the Russians, it is the UN troops that frighten me.

reply to post by tgambill


I definitely believe in a Genius Of Design or GOD in short but am not sure about Jesus unless Jesus stood right in front of me right now.

Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by MacroVisio

 

I don't know, but I do know that book is very hard to get hands on. If anybody does come across it they should consider it their civic duty to post online in pdf format.

Here my friend.....

THE UNKNOWN LIFE
OF
JESUS CHRIST
By the Discoverer of the Manuscript
NICOLAS NOTOVITCH
Translated by
J. H. CONNELLY and L. LANDSBERG
R. F. FENNO COMPANY
16 East 17 Street
NEW YORK
[1890]

Read It Here

You will have to click "Next: Contents" at the bottom of the page to start

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if i could sum a thread up into that of why i joined ATS: this could nearly be it.




I have but one question.... where is a safe place that i can go to survive all of this? this entitles being inland from the ocean (tsunami waves 2012), in a safe place for the tectonics of the earth... and also to elude all of the mayhem going on?



please help.

reply to post by TrainDispatcher


Right on thanks!
You found it, somebody was asking about that book.

reply to post by survival


I am in Colorado, it's a good place but you will have to deal with alot of NWO BS. Wyoming and Montana should be okay.

People are scared of answers like these. Thats why religion is so lovey-dovey and "easy." People have an easier time accepting the religious idea of a "creator," who watched over, and protects us. Knowledge is the ultimate power of the universe. We are God. All of us. We are all part of a living energy force that does not work without us. Without everyone of you, it is broken. Aliens are "god" with a lowercase "g." There are still questions above them. Who put the Aliens here?

reply to post by tgambill

This has no revelance to the discussions and wilki is not credible by no stretch of the imagination

How is it not relevant? You asked you for references. I gave you something better. Researching tips, where to look and how pertaining to what you where asking me about.

If you want to help feed a child for a day, buy him dinner. If you want to feed him for life, teach him how to fish.

If wiki is not a reliable source than what is a reliable source, oh wise one?

You won't even look into the truth when it is staring right in your face will you?

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reply to post by TrainDispatcher



Thanks ever so much!~! I read this book in school but need to revise scrutiny. It seems so fitting that the author quickly fell on hard times after writing this book back in 1890. I've never known anyone to work to publish a book that would turn the world against him.
He found some truth and made the mistake of thinking the world was interested. Sort of like the plight of that poor tobacco scientist Russel Crowe played in the "Insider".

Originally posted by TrainDispatcher

Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by MacroVisio

 

I don't know, but I do know that book is very hard to get hands on. If anybody does come across it they should consider it their civic duty to post online in pdf format.

Here my friend.....

THE UNKNOWN LIFE
OF
JESUS CHRIST
By the Discoverer of the Manuscript
NICOLAS NOTOVITCH
Translated by
J. H. CONNELLY and L. LANDSBERG
R. F. FENNO COMPANY
16 East 17 Street
NEW YORK
[1890]

Read It Here

You will have to click "Next: Contents" at the bottom of the page to start

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Originally posted by tgambill
Jesus' life is not unknown. The books are fake and new age lies. No question. Wilki is credible????? not.

The link has materialized, now you can read for yourself

reply to post by blackops713


Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This theory may or may not be true and it is up to each of us as individuals to do our own research and see if it stacks up and then...make up our own mind.

However, if it all pans out to look like the real deal, it still does not alter the essentials in the Bible. That is, God is in you and you are in God and the only true thing is love.

Jesus was a messenger of God and he said in the Bible, "All that I do, you will do and more". Why would he say that? Because he knew the truth of who we truly are.

So this thread is no risk for followers of God and Jesus for I am one myself. Searching for truth is our duty! AND TRUTH WILL SET US FREE.

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reply to post by blackops713


Aliens are not God or god. God does not rape and kidnap or torture. Do not be fooled.