My problem with Alien Implants

reply to post by NavalFC


well, mabey they can take you next and you can cut yours out....jk....lol.

It is not like it is some weird out of this world once and a life time big deal anymore.

It is SOOOO common now that I don't even bat an eyelash at this stuff.

It is like not believeing in cell phones when they first came out for fear of looking gullible, but now they are EVERYWHERE, no big deal.

I personally don't understand why people make such a dramma about it either.....mabey if I didn't have the post tramatic stress I would have a bit more emotions towards it though?

I just think it is old news now, like beating a dead horse, YES it is REAL, YES millions of people have gone through it.....we have mostly stayed in tact, in general don't act or look like loonies to our peers in the real world etc....

So what is the big DEAL? Why is there so much fear and controversy still surrounding this subject?

Mabey all the blossom goodchild crap etc, was set up on purpose to discredit the rest of us and try to put us in that same category?

NOT! that is like saying because micheal jackson was a sponsored by diet coke, anyone else who is sponsored by them must have gotten 55 nose jobs too.


Well, mabey if this didn't start happeneing at such an early age,(only about 5 times total) I would probly be very wary of people making such claims too, so I can see your side as well actually....oh well!

reply to post by NavalFC


If alien implants are not there to track the human race, to control us and hold us back in our birth right to progress then why do YOU think they are there?

You do indeed as your thread states "have a problem" with alien implants, but your not even willing to accept that many have these, and the fact that they know what effect these implants are having on them.

If you do not believe in alien implants, or there reason for existing, or even willing to discuss this matter further without attempting to be little posters, I fail to see why you even started a thread on the subject.

I know why I have these things, I dont need to prove they are there, and I definatly know they have effected my awarness, which I am not very happy about.

Governments have all but chiped us, they would if they could so why do you find it unbelievable that an alien race would do it? My passports got an "implant" in it now, its got a chip in the back. Im sure they'd actually like this in me rather than my passport though. Aliens chip us because they can, because they have the technology and resources to do so. Governments want to but luckily at the moment thay cant chip us. The aliens are just able to do it and so they will continue to do it.

Originally posted by mellisamouse
I have proof of them being IN there, help me find someone to get them out and then you can figure out what they are for yourself.

I have enough proof for me they are in ME is what I am trying to say.

I would LOVE to get them out though, believe me...

Mellisa I think you need to find some specialist to check those things in your feet ASAP. I know you believe that there's some type of correlation between your missing time experiences and those strange marks and bulbs. But think it this way: Whoever do you think did that to you, obviously don't wanna be exposed, don't wanna give you and us the "smoking gun". It's like a covert operation, if your prefer. They could be using the "fear to the ridicule" factor to continue with their plan.

So, this is my piece of advice, again: do WHATEVER is necessary to expose this and figure out what the hell you got there in your body, just for the pleasure to ruin "somebodies" plan as incentive. Do all the analysis that are needed. Take your time. Then, come back here and open a thread with your progress.

reply to post by tezzajw


You can see it. It is like freckles have formed around in a perfect triangle, the middle is regular pigmentation, so just the outline, the middle has a hard spot, is actually round, like a dime.....kinda remind me of star trek, like I could push the button and say " Beam me up Scotty".

I will try to get a picture of the triangle, but it is hard to see on camera, plain as day in person...these wierd girls into witch craft in school used to be all oggly boogly about it like they knew what it was etc... they were full of crap if you ask me!

reply to post by mellisamouse




Alien abduction /implantation is soooooooooooooo common? Seriously?

Oh yea.. I heard my neighbors discussing this earlier:

neighbor 1: ahh man ive got a wicked rash on my thigh

neighbor2: implant?

neighbor1: yea howd you know? the aliens put it in last week

neighbor2:yea... my butt is still sore from the probe... they always take me and inconvenient times

neighbor1: Oh yea tell me about it! Last year they took me at half time during the super bowl! they are such incosiderate people!

Neighbor2: I dont suppose they had the decency to fly you over the stadium?

neighbor 3 pops in: Hey guys! whats up

Neighbor 1: no they didnt, and hey were just talking about our implants

neighbor3: Oh yea man... they put on in my arm, it was sore for a week and i couldnt work out..its sooo annoying!

Whoa after seeing those pics it reminds me of the bump I had on my right leg in the same exact spot. I was sitting in easy chair right leg crossed over the left watching tv and ran my hand over my leg there and noticed a raised bump. After investigating it further I noticed it moved around freely like it was some round thing there. Only it was hard and kind slightly painful moving it around. No scars no red marks in the area only a bump.

After poking for a while it kept bothering me to the point I decided to get it out. I should have gone to the hospital, but I just didn't want to pay through the nose to have something this small taken out. So I decided to do a little home surgery I happen to have on hand a sterile packaged scalpel, tweezers, iodine etc. After lancing it with a small cut to my surprise it took forever to dig this little bugger out of my leg! Finally I had the scalpel blade under the object trying to dislodge it after 2 or 3 attempts it came out. It kept slipping and sinking further down into my leg ouch! At one point I damn near bent the blade trying to get it out. It actually went 'POP' as it flew out and I lost it. During this process wiping blood from the area with gauze, I noticed the surface of the object was very very shiny like a chrome ball. To this day I am baffled as to what or where the heck this thing came from. All I know is it is abnormal to have something like that in your body.

I kept tracing back trying to remember anything in my life that was weird and I do recall in my childhood going out to a field to play sometime in the afternoon and next thing I know waking up in this field in the dark! Like 8-9pm at night. Like I slept in this field for 7-8 hours! Very strange I find this years later. Sometimes I wonder.

reply to post by JackHill


I just don't now how, or where to get the help..... I kind of gave up.... the last time I went to the hospital the doctor looked at me like I was an alien, because I have had namonia sooo many times, they can't knock me out with anything because I seem immune etc, and no matter how high of a temperature I have had I allways turn out fine etc...the last highest was 107, about 10 years ago for a few hours etc...I only go to the doctor when other people force me because they think I will die, and then, the doctors don't or can't do anything anyways, so Ikind of gave up on them because I am allways fine no matter what in the end anyways etc.

Originally posted by NavalFC
Alien abduction /implantation is soooooooooooooo common? Seriously?

You should know how common it is. You started the thread based upon watching a couple of documentaries.

I'm assuming that you've done your research and analysed the available data to determine how common it is? With the research behind you, you would be able to justify your sweeping assertions in your opening post.

Right?

Take a step backwards for a second and start with the premise that some people probably have implants in them. Note that I left out the word 'alien'. What subsequent analysis has been done on these implants to determine what they could be?

Originally posted by NavalFC
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

Alien abduction /implantation is soooooooooooooo common? Seriously?

Oh yea.. I heard my neighbors discussing this earlier:

neighbor 1: ahh man ive got a wicked rash on my thigh

neighbor2: implant?

neighbor1: yea howd you know? the aliens put it in last week

neighbor2:yea... my butt is still sore from the probe... they always take me and inconvenient times

neighbor1: Oh yea tell me about it! Last year they took me at half time during the super bowl! they are such incosiderate people!

Neighbor2: I dont suppose they had the decency to fly you over the stadium?

neighbor 3 pops in: Hey guys! whats up

Neighbor 1: no they didnt, and hey were just talking about our implants

neighbor3: Oh yea man... they put on in my arm, it was sore for a week and i couldnt work out..its sooo annoying!

hahah very funny...well, mabey not around people like YOU, because they might feel a little ridiculed or vulnerable to dicuss such matters around people like you??? hmmmmmm perhaps a wee bit insensitve.

Don't worry I can take it. I really am a casual person, not much will phase me.

Think of it like even with pot smokers or people who do coc aine, they don't discuss it openly around people who don't do it, or might nark them out do they???? They keep it hush hush around the possible nark or guy asking too many questions, or the reformed drinker etc who has found God, or whatever would make them feel uncomfortable about it etc...

Well, similar principle.

reply to post by mellisamouse


Im not makng fun of YOU, i was just pointing out the saying that it was so common.

Their was a poll taken a few years backc alled te roper poll and while i disagree with its methodologies completely and thing its bunk, they predicted that 4 million americns were abductees

4 million out of 350 million isnt that common

but seriouly I suggest you contact the surgeon I linked you too.

Just because I am skeptical dosnt mean I amn willing to see evidence. Maybe he will remove it for you, you can post pictur and tst results and let whts seen be seen.

[edit on 3-12-2008 by NavalFC]

[edit on 3-12-2008 by NavalFC]

reply to post by tezzajw


As I just replied, theroper poll alleged that 4million americans hav been abduted, though this poll in and of itself was a sham. but going with those figur just for the sake of argument, 4 million out of 350 million is not that common.

I agree with many of the points NavalFC has made.

I have not seen or read of one Alien Implant that has hard evidence to prove it as being such. If there was, the world would be a different place now but it's not. We live in a world of spin.

mellisamouse - on the surface, your story is no exception. Before you can call your marks implants, you have to first prove them as such. If those markings are the only prerequisites you need to call them implants, then I must be completely filled with alien shrapnel!

Remove the ambiguity, have them taken out and have their composition tested if they appear to be something more than prosaic in appearance. Get to the bottom of it so your claims are no longer unfounded. Take the risk of them turning out to be prosaic - be brave. Be willing to change your mind if they turn out to be mundane. Would it really be so bad if you weren't an abductee - or is it important for you to feel like one? Does thinking you're an abductee give you an extra sense of significance? I'd like to know.

You owe it to yourself and to those you may possibly be misleading. Be part of the truth, not part of the bunk.

Abductions and Implants are not an issue of faith. Claiming you need no proof is a major cop out. The only reason I can see for someone not wanting to get to the bottom of it is because it may burst their little bubble.

IRM

Originally posted by NavalFC
but going with those figur just for the sake of argument, 4 million out of 350 million is not that common.

Ok, the poll might have had problems. Agreed. I don't have the data at hand, or how it was conducted. I don't necessarily believe those figures, or give them much credit.

However, taking the figures at face value, 4 people in every 350 have reportedly been abducted... I would say that is VERY common.

Most people are likely to meet at least four abductees in their lifetime, based on those figures. THAT IS COMMON.

Note, I am assuming that most people would know at least 350 other people during their lives, given that most people go to some sort of school and also socialise, move around jobs and workplaces. Sure, there would be exceptions, some people would live in near isolation to others.

Those are incredibly high figures that make abduction VERY common. Winning first prize in a lottery is 8.1 million to 1, now that's something which is not common.

Again, I take those survey results with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by NavalFC
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

Im not makng fun of YOU, i was just pointing out the saying that it was so common.

Their was a poll taken a few years backc alled te roper poll and while i disagree with its methodologies completely and thing its bunk, they predicted that 4 million americns were abductees

4 million out of 350 million isnt that common

but seriouly I suggest you contact the surgeon I linked you too.

[edit on 3-12-2008 by NavalFC]

Yeah, I did email that guy a while back, he never replied.

Most people don't talk about it openly, and even in a poll would be scared poopless to admit it because the wouldn't want to look like a loonie.

if people feel comfortable around you, and subjects come up, you would be suprised how many would be willing to talk when they feel safe etc.

Most people don't have self esteem after these things, it took me a while to get mine back, but people are more paranoid about EXPOSING their truth, than the actual thing that happened itself.

Like a lot of date rape victoms etc are afraid to look more like the criminal than the victom etc......

But AGAIN, if I was on the other side of the fence and hadn't gone through it myself I would be just as sckeptical and untrusting myself.

I have seen a few UFO's before as well, and think all videos I have seen are bunk and fakes because they are all so blurry and shaky and fake looking, yet I ONLY believe myself because I saw with my own 2 eyes, once with a group of people.. (the cigar shaped kind, looked like an upside down bus with no windows). So I see your point of view as well. That is why I don't take things too personally.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
Remove the ambiguity, have them taken out and have their composition tested if they appear to be something more than prosaic in appearance.

Hey, dude! I haven't been kicking around the Aliens forum much the past few days.

Here's a problem I have with testing an implant... how do we know it is alien or not? Assuming that aliens have access to similar compounds that we do, something that is possibly alien might not register as being so, if it's composed of ordinary compounds.

Anything fundamentally 'different' in composition or construction, will of course be immediately obvious. Perhaps, some implants may deliberately be made to appear 'normal' when removed? Maybe they're laced with some type of nano-tech that dies upon removal? Who knows? Of course it is speculation... but it may be that our current testing methods may not be able to identify an implant as being an 'alien' implant?

Anyway, Melissa, you're in charge of your body. It's your's to decide what you do with it!

reply to post by InfaRedMan


It wouldn't busrt a bubble because like I said it really isn't a big deal and not really a signifigant part of my life. If it was just someone drugged me and then put a rock in my foot to make me look weird I could face that too.

I, like most people who have gone through this stuff legitimatley am a completley normal person. I have enugh of a life of my own and don't need attention or to feel "special."

I am a 35 year old female who looks about 17, I get wayyy enough attention as it is, and feel we are ALL special anyways, NO ONE is better or more special than the next, each is different in some way etc....and barley ANYONE in my personal cirlce knows squat about it.... it is usually people I meet by accident who end up talking about it somehow etc... not my party friends or anything.

I have a life. But am not afraid of the truth either etc.

Originally posted by tezzajw
Anyway, Melissa, you're in charge of your body. It's your's to decide what you do with it!

I know, but I just have too much going on in my life to be bothered anymore.

I have gone on with my life a long time ago.....if someone wanted to come to ME for their own research I would be willing, but otherwise, I have a lot of stuff going on and don't have time for something that dosen't bother me anymore.

Geeze, reading that over, no wonder we look flakey, everyone wants proof but we don't try to get it for them.....I just don't feel a duty I guess to prove things for others?

Is that selfish or something? If it is I am sorry, I WILL let anyone come to me though if they wanna take them out and disect them.

Originally posted by mellisamouse
I WILL let anyone come to me though if they wanna take them out and disect them.

haha! Be careful what you wish for!!!

I wouldn't be surprised if someone takes you up on that offer. There's probably a few keen researchers who read these threads and may be interested to see those implants of your's. If possible, see if you can put up a picture of your forearm triangle. Perhaps, you could start your own thread, instead of drifting this away from NavalFC's intentions.

Make sure you're safe and never have anyone strange around unless you're with friends! If they want to see you, then they should be prepared to fully ID themselves before hand! (No men in black allowed!)

Bedtime here now.

reply to post by tezzajw


Nighty night, I agree. I would make sure friends were around, it would be in THIS hospital etc, and staff I know here would be there to assist as well.

Sorry if it was a tread hi-jacking at all.....I just like to answer myself clearly.

TTFN

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
Remove the ambiguity, have them taken out and have their composition tested if they appear to be something more than prosaic in appearance.

Hey, dude! I haven't been kicking around the Aliens forum much the past few days.

Here's a problem I have with testing an implant... how do we know it is alien or not? Assuming that aliens have access to similar compounds that we do, something that is possibly alien might not register as being so, if it's composed of ordinary compounds.

Hi There tezzajw! Good to see you mate!

I haven't been around the board much myself.

What you say is valid. Perhaps when we start manufacturing metals and other compounds in micro gravity we may have a better point of reference. Perhaps the compounds are the same but the alignment of the atomic structures are different. I've heard of research into this already.

Self destructing nanites and such may be possible but at this point, without the science to confirm for or against it, it's a highly unfalsifiable hypothesis. A good one though

IRM