Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head - Again

In the 2000 election there was a whiff of GOP buying the election in Florida

The "FACTS" of WMD for the war in Iraq, which were proven as LIES.

The thousands who have died due to these Bush policies and the current economic collapase are the reasons why a lot of people see the whispering of Obamas origins as digusting, rascist and mute compared to the deaths incurred from the
"Smoking gun in the shape of a MUSHROOM Cloud" bollock$


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can anyone direct me to the ruling that prohibits foreign birthed children from getting the office of President?

its not a debate, just a question :-)

new :

www.rense.com...

and

www.associatedcontent.com...

and

www.worldnetdaily.com...

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I'm having trouble finding any sources for this travel ban story on Pakistan in the 80s.

I thought Pakistan was a US ally in the 80s. And apparently that is the general consensus:


I found a reprint of a Washington Post article of 1998, that shows a table with the number and type of sanctions the US imposed on some countries.

We can see there an "Air and travel ban" on Angola in 1997, an "air travel ban" on Libya in 1978.

On Pakistan, however, we see this:



Travel warnings on the other hand, are quite often, but do not impose a travel ban on citizens. For example, on this page on the State Department's website, we have a listing of the Current Travel Warnings.

Pakistan is listed with the date of November 21, 2008.



Does anyone have a source for this Pakistan travel ban in the 1980s? I find that story very fishy...

heres a link that shows his birth certificate with seal number and all thegreatrollcall.blogspot.com...

There's no law or ruling that specifically prohibits a foreign born person from being President. Article II Section I Clause 5 of the US Constitution states:


Nowhere in the Constitution (or US law) "natural born" citizen is defined, but it is widely understood as someone who is born in the United States.

Section 101(a)(38) [8 U.S.C. 1101] of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides a definition for United States:




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You do not know what you are talking about. That is NOT a Birth Certificate. It is a "Certificate of Live Birth." Completely a diferent form.
You or I can probably get one as well. And I was born in Germany.

Below is a line from the article you refer to:
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.

This is impossible as the "Original" birth certificate is sealed away from public viewing. Here FactCheck.org is telling a flat out LIE!

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Surely this should apply to all president elects, which it hasn't. Or is it the case that here is a non white man with a non white name. Which of course is entirely in keeping with the latent racist nature of US society. After all just because somebody is white with a western name does not mean they are eligable for president, for example "Gordon Brown". If a man called "Gordon Brown" was president elect would there be calls for his birth certificate.......NO and you all know it.

So hang your head in shame, US citizens, for this continuing debacle.

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This might sound a little ignorant, and I am sorry if anyone would feel that way, but aren't the only true Americans the Native ones?

I mean, almost all of you are immigrants not very far ago, just a few generations. So, isn't this whole "is he legit or not" discussion a little hypocritical?

I do understand the fact that the President should be born in the country, but he lived there almost all his life. At least. And he won by popular vote. Isn't that the important part?

The "immigrant" situation is different for the USA, because it is a very different country.

Flame me gently please, I mean no harm.

Because that's what the constitution says?

Arnold is not running for president, California's constitution is not the constitution of the USA. And BTW I voted for Obama and I want him to be the pres. Just want him to do it legally.

Why don't you read the US Constitution and find that answer for yourself ?

The REASON WHY is so that our country isn't HIJACKED away by Foreign Despots under another flag. It is a way to PRESERVE our way of life, liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Hi,

This URL raises the possibility that Barry was born in Indonesia and adopted.
www.youtube.com...
as well as more analysis of his forged HI birth cert.

His rise to power resulted from failure of the Democratic National Committee to do their jobs and screen their candidate. So now we have a con-artist, drug user, drug dealer, and a liar who is about to take the oath.

He and his handlers missed the Dec 1st deadline to fork over the real birth certificate. Yeah, that's so labor intensive to do. They'll thumb their noses at the Dec 5th deadline as well. Barry is WAY above the law, and the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs, and the Council on Foreign Relations will protect him for the next 8 years; and they're laughing their asses off at the voters.

Hillary could have shut him down early on but she didn't, Why not?

But Mikey if they do make a fraudulent birth certificate , it will come out EVENTUALLY at some point and then it would put a few prominent people in gaol for fraud and a whole pile of other criminal offences.

I can see why they would prefer it NOT to come that.

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this "technicality" as you call it applies to everyone and is cast in stone- dont like it dont stand for office

Anything wrong with transparency?

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I feel compelled to respond to this idiot.




There was a similar dispute about John McCain early on, which started way back in the primaries, about whether or not he could be president. There were also questions way back in 1964 when Barry Goldwater ran, because he was born in Arizona territory, before they gained statehood.

Fact is, if McCain won, all you Obama supporters would probably be griping just the same, albeit modified arguments, about McCain's natural status. So please stfu.



Maybe you should hang your head, too. You're the one, after all, that is rattling off like a baseless retard.

Okay? Thanks.


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well said spencer- ironically these same people who are saying this is only emerging because he is black and/or democrat are somehow suggesting that the stated rules and criteria should NOT apply to him BECAUSE he is black and/or democrat!