To start out, I'm not an Obama hater. But it is possible he actually was born in Kenya and his parents did what was necessary to make his birthplace appear to be Hawaii by putting in the announcements and doing the Hawaiian paperwork retroactively. Kenyans would happily destroy any conflicting paperwork for their favoured son. This may be farfetched for a struggling young couple to do in 1961, but American citizenship has always been prized.

It's been argued persuasively by those tracking the young Obama that he joined the Nation of Islam on arriving in Chicago. This part of his CV has been scrubbed, but there’s still his many associations with that crowd like Louis Farrakhan, his employing of NIL members in his campaigns, even earlier this year, etc.

He would obviously join a church when his political ambitions emerged, as it was a requirement to win any election. He did choose the most Muslim sympathizing, whitey hating church around - sometimes described as a ‘mosque-in-drag.’

That said, I expect he's essential a secular guy and with the kind of political leaning you'd expect from a radicalized black intellectual in an Ivy League university.
One wonders how much he's advanced philosophically beyond this. Maybe not much.

But he's smart and very late in the game as it was realized he was a serious contender for the White house, a lot of skeletons from the closet were reburied.

Still a mystery his inner politics, but I expect his egotism will make him come to terms with the need to play ball with the existing power structure and it's players.

Anyways, he’s considered the people’s chosen President now, and the media, the judiciary, local supporters, will make sure that nothing interferes with his ascendancy.

The Supreme Court chose not allow a recount of votes in Florida in 2000, and they won’t challenge the Obama’s legitimacy. They want to keep their plum jobs. This is not the first nor will it be the last breach of the Constitution.


Mike F

Originally posted by mel1962
What attacks??? Just Talking Facts!!!!!

I believe that was from a post which was not directed at you, and in response to another persons quotes of there having been attacks by some group that she considers to be 'racists', yet she is lumping all sorts of different people into that group and trying to say they are all the same.

She claims it is the Republican Party, yet two of the lawsuits come from different parties:

Philip J. Berg, a Democrat.
And
Alan Keyes the presidential candidate of the American Independent Party.

Just to name two. Apparently its a very diverse group made up of anyone who questions Obama.
Anyway....

Originally posted by mel1962
Than you jump on Phil Berg's band wagon, now you do know that he say's Obama was born in Kenya and . . . you just provided me a document from Indonesia indicating that he was born in Hawaii?????

As I have stated there is more then one issue here, and you are trying to lump them all into one. The Supreme Court does not review frivolous lawsuits, it picks and chooses which it will hear quite carefully, hence there is obviously some grounds here that need legitimate review.

1)Was he born in Kenya? If so that makes him either a:
__A) Citizen of Kenya, and thus a British Citizen, as Kenya was a British Territory at the time.
__B) A Duel US/British citizen, the same as the founding fathers who disqualified themselves from holding the office of president.

2)Did he later surrender his citizenship and expatriate?
__A)When his mother married an Indonesian man. (she expatriated him through marriage)
__B) When he was adopted by a foreigner of a country that did not allow duel citizenship.

Now you can try and lump all these things together an say that I am giving conflicting stories, but the truth is that you are simply not reading what was posted carefully enough. I clearly have stated that there is more then one issue involved in the citizenship process which is under question.