Who has seen an Alien?

reply to post by dracodie


It is a valid question, why people brought up in certain cultures are more prone to describing certain "alien" species than someone else.

However, you always have to keep in mind that abductee reporting is a self-selecting group, so statistics aren't going to be nearly as useful as they could be. The grey alien is a part of our culture, but that also means that an abductee would be mroe willing to reveal that he was abducted by such a creature. He'd be less likely to come forward that he was abducted by dwarves in cloaks, since that's not socially accepted. Europeans might be more likely to report the "other" aliens as much as they are greys. It's also very possible that Americans, being more religious than Europeans, are more likely to report beautiful blonde people in white suits as angels, rather than spacemen.

That said, the wide differences in reported alien races by abductees is something that Ufology tends to ignore.

When I was 3-5 years old (i was still at daycare) Dream or not, it happned sometime after Ive fallen asleep, and its one of the "dreams" that wont leave my mind..

I had a conversation with an old grey/white haired man.. At this age I doubt I had seen any images of "god" or having any knowledge of one... Would have been on TV if anywhere. But anyhow this man looks like Zeus or "god" wich is portrayed often,as an elderly man on a throne in the skies..
What he said, I wish I could remember..

But I recall telling my freinds at daycare what he said, and that "Ive spoke to god last night".. So I guess he told me who he was Ufos Ive seen, but thats another thread

Anyhow my only (what I can recall) encounter with an "alien".. Hopin for more

ive only ever had a dream about aliens, which at the time seemed pretty real, real as in it seemed like a memory just the same as memories of my past, but there were to many reasons pointing to a dream rather than abduction or anything real occuring during the night.

the scenerio was me and my whole family suddenly being downstairs, there were lights shining through the curtain, not very bright but enough to make the curtains lighten up, i looked out the curtain to see what the lights were. it was pitch black outside with starnge objects in the sky flying around. there was a fire outside, with what looked like hooded people standing around it keeping warm.

i put the curtain back and asked my family what was going on. i open the curtain again, the hooded people became aware i was watching them, one turned and looked and put it's hood down. it had a orange head and big black eyes, it waved at me, so i waved back. they all came closer and smiled and waved again, so again i waved back. i saw other familys going outside to greet them, but i was to warey to go outside. then i woke up.

dreams can indeed be powerful, my dream had some characteristics that could of convinced me that me and my family were abducted, but we was'nt it was simply a dream. i can see why some people could dream something simular during the night and be convinced it really happened because it seemed so real.

i think some abductions fit under that catergory. i don't know about all cases and don't have all the answers, but the dream i had is just an example of what people can dream.

the only puzzling thing for me is why people dream things like that and why they mostly share the same types of experience. i had that dream and a run of u.f.o. dreams (being chased) at a time where i was a total sceptic and had no intrest in forums like this or the subject matters that are posted on them, all that i cared about back then was work, family, and football, music and a few other run of the mill hobbies. the run of dreams all occured also before i had my real life u.f.o. sighting, ive never dreamt about anything alien or u.f.o. since nor have i seen anything in real life since.

ridiculing abductee claiments dos'nt bring about any understanding of what is occuring to them whatsoever and why lots of people either dream about or even experience these things as though it was real. surely offering information and links on attempted explainations is more productive than simply ridiculing. being smug and thinking you know all the answers is ignorant. hence the reason i included my dream. i am not saying that people did'nt experience what they say they did. but i am offering an explaination based on something i have experienced myself and can directly offer as a possibility and relate to. rather than pointing a finger and laughing and claiming your all wrong like many others do.

Originally posted by elevatedmind
Hello Mystiq, and other fellow ATS members,
I'm usually a lurker on ATS, who regularly scans and read others posts but this is actually my first time posting a response on a particular thread.

Mystiq i thank you for sharing your experience with us, and would like to hear more about the experience if you can ? (especially about the part with blond ET and telepathic transmission?)

I ask this because last week i experienced something that stayed with me vividly until now, although it wasnt an abduction, or ET encounter for sure, i experienced something very wierd, sort of like a telepathic communication with some one, which was a first for me

anyways, i'll appreciate any input.
Thanx in advance

While in STL, Mo. I had an awesome experience. It took a month and a half, or so, to unfold and ended six months later with me being committed in another state as an anti socio psychotic. Oddly, it ended the moment I was arrested and transported to the asylum, as it were. So you can write this off as lunacism. Psychiatrists find intriguing that a year later I still recall every detail of it, day in and day out, like it all happened yesterday. I saw and heard and experienced alot of things. I can, but, won't detail it all here. I'll spare you all that. What relates to what you're on about here is that I went for a walk to sort out the weird occurances - the whole while being "escorted by a cigar like craft which escorted me every day of the experience all day every day and which none but I could see. Like it hovered outside wherever I went in (like my home, I believe, even as I slept.) What triggered it was uncontrollably I began yelling at GOD for three days straight about how he was , well, not fit to be GOD (I'm Athiest), which was followed by 5 days of a 105 degree temperature and a blackout of that whole week, when I came out of the blackout phase, everything I ever thought I knew was turned upside down. So I took the walk 2 weeks into it to sort it all out. At a Hollywood video store in STL, Mo. I met a man with brown cropped hair who was dressed all in white. White suit, shirt, shoes, socks, and tie. No jewelry, no watch. He moves his lips to tell me his name, but, I heard nothing come out of his mouth, It started with an Mm sound, but I cannot recall it. The communication was somehow telepathic. Mind you he looked human. I had the impression he was sent by GOD. In the store our conversation continued, he followed me around, we talked- well I talked he quit moving his lips by this point and just projected thoughts. It goes on until this emotionless-human looking guy (and I stress human to a fault) inquired as to what frustration was, so without thinking I showed him. I knocked over the video display case. I of course went to jail that night, but the guy disappeared immediately- so had his friend outside in the white van (told you this is a long and deep event) anyways, the police, store clerks on duty, and store video were clear on one point- I was the only person in the store, but the two clerks up front. Psychotic delusion, it's what the State hospital thinks. However, I tend to be unsure. It'd take a book to tell all I know and why I suspect the professional opinion (made without even the benefit of even an MRI or CT Scan). If it were true and not as experts (who didn't even come into play until over almost half a year after the fact) claim, then, I'd say either it was a man based black op or an alien with human origens or appearance, maybe, it was a projection by man or alien. That or angels and demons were real. Or I had a real psychotic event. I know from experience it wasn't the result of '___', psylocibin, or some other hallucinagin or drug- of that much I'm positive. I wish I could say definately, but, I cannot. Does that help your inquiries about aliens? It was alien to me.

"A prophet will first be rejected in his own home."-- Book of John, BIBLE

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mr tim

this is realy intresting in that no one has mentioned what appears to be worn concrete slabs busted all around the crater that is surrounded bu a line resembling a pentagon now i dont know if that ws made by the rover but i was under the imperssion that the rover was designed to go around objects like that any way an areal view should be needed also the object in the foreground can any body get a better picture of that ??

This is a very negative thread about an OP which asks a simple question and is hammered by insults and accusations.

Yes I am getting fed up with the BS and whatsyourname, why are you a MOD?

Mystic, I would not continue to throw pearls before swine...

At one point and for a couple of years I felt lead to this site to connect with others of similar and rare experience, it is becoming apparent that I need to move on as anything I could ever share will only be ridiculed and scoffed at.

To the OP, yes I have met in RL an actual alien life form. It would be a waste to tell you about it as I have mentioned it many times in the past in different threads and not a single person ever wanted to know anything about it. Not a single u2u to ask more, nothing.

For those here at the forum who have met me, they would say they do not quite know what to make of me, I am different for sure, but I assure you that they would never doubt my truths.

I will be very honest and tell you now, PEOPLE ARE NOT READY FOR THE TRUTH So it is a waste of time to try and break it to them in threads like this because they are not prepared and nothing we can share will take the place of their own experience, and they are just not there yet.

I'm glad this question was posed to the community because it is precisely why no one here should be attacked based on what they think they have seen or experienced.

A video can be posted on the web showing what appears to be an extraterrestrial entity. The commentary on said video will run the full spectrum. There will be claims of "I think it can be real" to "This is it! This is the real thing! They exist!" to views on the opposite end saying "This does not convince me" to "This is so obviously fake. What a piece of garbage. You're a moron if you think this is real".

Although I'd like to think that the ATS community is open and open-minded enough to take the time to critically examine and form intelligent conclusions based upon the information provided, people tend to ridicule the poster's claims or the information they provide. Sadly, definitions of the word 'Debunk' tend to include the word 'ridicule'.

Its sad because people opt not to share an experience or their views for fear of the ridicule. Debunking in its current form shouldn't be allowed as it relies too much on who makes a more memorable argument or attack over actually forming a conclusion.

Also, this may be just me, If a number of people deem someone's story to be fake, it should not mean the story was a waste of their time. It should mean the critics used their arsenal of critical thinking and examining to further the knowledge of the community and themselves. In other words, its good to see and hear crap. The firmer the grasp you have of crap, the easier it will be to discover not crap.

Sorry for the rambling. My point is, if you haven't seen an alien, what makes you an expert? If you have seen an alien, what makes you an expert? If you attack a person instead of the information they share, just admit you couldn't poke any holes through it and stick around or move on.

One of the arguments that I believe is quite weak and overused is the suggestion that an extraterrestrial entity would not travel such vast distances just to peek in on a random person in the middle of nowhere. How do you know this? Are you an alien? We don't know why human beings do some of the things they do, yet you know the motivations of a species that no one can conclusively say is real or not?

To answer the question, I believe I saw "something" when I was very young. I don't know what it was but I do know it was not a human being, unless of course this person was deformed and pale and knew exactly where to stand to not be easily identifiable. Haven't seen anything like it since.

Originally posted by Badge01

So to be on topic, I'd contend that no one has ever seen a real non-terrestrial, non-human being in the actual flesh. Why? Because all beings have micro-organisms and anyone meeting a real non-human, non-terrestrial being would be infected and perish.

I think I'm missing the joke here, so nobody has ever seen an alien in the flesh because their alien cooties would have killed us? How did you come by this information?

[edit on 1-12-2008 by unnamedninja]

There are many true alien experiencers who study these threads, and a few who dare to post in them. I want to assure everyone that the alien people are just as alive and physical as we are, as I know from my own lifelong experiences with many races. My own drawings and journals are on my web site in my sig.

"Dreams" are not just imagination, but often real events, including encounters with alien life. If you journal your experiences, include your dreams. If you don't journal, you are losing vital integrity.

The UFO field and the alien races are two different subjects with hardly any resemblance between them at all. If you have alien contact, learn the truth from the alien people themselves. Don't get yourself lost in the UFO field instead. If you choose to tell others, be brave in telling your stories accurately despite the relentless ridicule. The only reason people are ignorant and don't believe something that is real and true is because they don't understand it yet. Understanding comes from education, not from evidence.

True education about alien life only comes from the alien races. Then it's a risky process of personal sharing between us because our leadership forbids this truth, and is actively ruining personal reputation and public opinion.

Be aware that "disclosure" lends evidence to professional disinformation. That means that once people know for themselves that alien life is real, they are bound to believe all the slander and gossip about the alien races, which only brings us further away as a race. We are closer to the truth knowing nothing, than in believing the propaganda and misrepresentation. As unpopular to do as it is, get to know the alien people yourself and make up your own mind.

Not everyone who claims to have alien contact really does, and not everyone who really does have alien contact is telling the truth about it. Few humans are on the right track, and these few are so far from the norm on Earth that they don't even fit in with the people who don't even fit in.

ATS is probably the most organized, progressive site to share and discuss information about alien life, but is still hostile to the alien experiencers as well as to the aliens. The hostility can only change when the true alien experiencers change it.

[edit on 12/1/2008 by EarthSister]

Originally posted by mystiq
Like I said, I wasn't going to go into details on this thread. Its not an experiencer friendly atmosphere.

you got that right.

i have spilled the details of my experience here in the past so i don't find it necessary to delve that deep but YES, I have been so lucky as to be in the presence of light type beings that piloted these large dimensional ship that was some sort of living organism. It was on board this ship that they showed me various holographic images including two types of grays - little drones who were quasi robotic creatures and the taller ones who had heavily wrinkled skin.

[edit on 1-12-2008 by kronos11]

I sit here (obviously standing at my computer would look a little ridiculous), and I have to say, for the first time in my life, am utterly gobsmacked. (Which is not to say I have lost my ability to coherently think at all - notice the typing...)

What makes me gobsmacked is the fear that has represented itself in the defeaning silence to this question. And the utter GALL of some people. You would think some people had been raised in the wild by pigs, given their basic lack of manners or decorum.

On this website, in this community - out of All the other places you could go, that people are basically too afraid, or too jaded by their past experiences on ATS to be able to freely tell their stories in the community of open-minded sharing is like living in the dark ages.

I came here looking for TRUTH. I am prepared to believe the most wild outlandish tale you could possibly tell me, without making you feel an inch high for telling me your tale. I might think it implausable, but to be forewarned is to be forearmed (which is not to say I'd think of your experience as a battle either).

What I'm trying to say, is I prepared to hear you out with compassion in my heart, and an open mind. Prepared to accept that you may very well be telling the stone cold truth to me. That you have experienced something so remarkable that I may have no way to relate to it. But prepared all the same to LISTEN.

Shame on those who do not give the benefit of the doubt. It's ignorance in it's highest form.

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Very interesting - what makes it very intersting is the correllation with other accounts ..... espcially the "worker clone" vs the "real ones" Thankyou for being open

Originally posted by antar
yes I have met in RL an actual alien life form.

Do not be put-off by people who are not serious about understanding what is going on...
I do not know why people want to be so negative and destructive, but I hope they will not stop the truth and peoples experiences coming out.

Very seriously and honestly, I for one would like to hear your story and the stories of others... Yes I look at everything sceptically because there are a lot of people out there who make things up or a whole load of reasons - but i want to hear the truth of peoples experiences with an open mind -

What I have found is that the more I find out and listen and look for the correlations between the experiences of completely non-related people - the truth coming out is far stranger than any fiction...

Please everyone - let us hear the stories with an open mind, and be supportive of people revealing what they have experienced.

reply to post by Badge01


I saw Michael Jackson up close once...!!!!!

That Alien enuf for yer?

Originally posted by unnamedninja

Originally posted by Badge01

So to be on topic, I'd contend that no one has ever seen a real non-terrestrial, non-human being in the actual flesh. Why? Because all beings have micro-organisms and anyone meeting a real non-human, non-terrestrial being would be infected and perish.

I think I'm missing the joke here, so nobody has ever seen an alien in the flesh because their alien cooties would have killed us? How did you come by this information?

[edit on 1-12-2008 by unnamedninja]

I am still here, and as a matter of fact the only strange thing that happened was that I did not age for many years after the encounter...
And I was guided to do a complete cleanse when I discovered Kidney stones which would have affected me years later.

[edit on 1-12-2008 by antar]

reply to post by antar
Wow! You too? My sisters are still angry everytime they see me, it's like whispers to my Mom about the lack of lines on my face, teenage figure, hair color still strong (no dye), they can't stand it. Lol.

Also my son was embarrassed about it for many years, I didn't look like his friends' Moms. Even now (btw I'm 48, he's 28) everyone thinks I'm his wife when we go to dinner together or shopping. Lol. Some great benefits from meeting them face to face.

STM



[edit on 12/1/2008 by seentoomuch]

Originally posted by Badge01

So to be on topic, I'd contend that no one has ever seen a real non-terrestrial, non-human being in the actual flesh. Why? Because all beings have micro-organisms and anyone meeting a real non-human, non-terrestrial being would be infected and perish.

All aliens have to be either virtual or imaginary, since we don't currently have any alien plagues which have wiped out humanity, at least recently.

And, since anything seen that is virtual or holographic could be constructed as a special effect.

As we all know, special effects have existed for a long time, as have hoaxes and mistaken identities and errors of perception and these, as far-fetched as they may be are thousands of times more probable than the notion that a non-terrestrial civilization has come here in secret and landed on our planet for real.

Lol, I think someone has watched War of the worlds a little to many times, just because there are micro-organisms doesn't mean they are cross species compatiable. Going off the presumptions everytime we find a new species we'd be dead.

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You sound quite the milf... I am similar myself (not the milf part) but I don't show my age I put this down to diet and genetic disposition, how are you when it comes to illnesses and cancers, any family history?

Only asking as far back as I can remember I have never been ill by disease and I presume whatever keeps me healthy also contributes to the lack of age degeneration.

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Hi SFG

My only illnesses have come from exposures to chemicals and other outside sources (got really sick after spraying some mesquite trees with herbicide and then chronic bartonella from our cats which went away with antibiotic treatment). I've had bronchitus on occasion but anyone that lives in Austin is familiar with Cedar Fever which causes it. Never broke a bone (knock on wood), never really had anything more.

My Mom was the same way until doctors started giving her really strong medicines for every little thing which was the norm back in the sixties. Her illnesses (heart stopping and starting, bone density loss) can be directly attributed to the Dr. prescribing her Vioxx and then Celebrex and also prednisone? shots for aches and pains and also Lasix. The one time I took Celebrex for a couple of weeks for an aching back my heart stopped and started too.

My grandmother was unusual in that she didn't have any cause of death, she simply called everyone and said she was going to pass away the following week 'cause she was tired of making new friends. She had gone through 3 sets of them and wanted to go where they were. She got some masking tape and marked everything in her house as to who it was to go to and the rest she put prices on and sat in her front yard/garage sale and sold them. All in perfect health. Went to sleep one evening the following week and did not wake up. We have a picture of her from the previous year riding a camel in Egypt, she was always going somewhere, doing thing, she was 87 and was/is a real strong personality, I miss her. (Btw, my mother and grandmother and my mother's sisters were all very, very intuitive and very spiritual in the sense that they helped all and considered it an honor to do so, family tradition).

So yes, it could be genetic, but my sisters and brother clearly don't have this whatever it is. So either it's due to my genetics or my experiences with the visitors who used to undo my vaccinations, or maybe both.

Sorta rambling here, lots going on today, so if it's off topic sorry OP, but I have met real, in the flesh visitors, they do exist,

STM

Edit to add: My Grandmother, Mom and Aunts were all diagnosed with Lupus but even then the Dr.s weren't sure, it was basically aches and pains and they were told to avoid a lot of sun, but Lol, we are Swedes, we just aren't built for it so I doubt it's really Lupus.


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