U.S. Military Recruit? Here is how you will be respected.

Well Val,

Your daughter entered BCT in August so she should be about done by now, I hope that y'all enjoy the holidays and that y'all get a chance to spend them together..

With that being said, how about an update on how things are going for you and your daughter now, was anything resolved?

Again Happy holidays, and Thank your daughter for her service...

Well first off I would like to clarify, I served 4 years in the Marine Corps Infantry, so I actually do know what I'm taking about, unlike 99% of the people who have posted on this thread. This is my observation.....things like this is are reason that our military is becoming weaker by the minute. Your daughter didn't go off to a summer camp, or join a sorority at college, she joined the United Sates Armed Service during a time of war! Wake up! Are you are seriously on here complaining about a picture getting torn up in her boot camp? I'll give you a little advice, instead of worrying about that, maybe you should be thankful that your child is in one piece, or alive for that matter. There are many parents that have not had that luxury since this war began. You should be ashamed of yourself for contacting the commanding officer, or whoever you contacted over this, they have more important things to worry about, like turning a bunch of whiny undisciplined kids into adults that can manage the stresses of combat. So let me tell you this, if a photograph is all that your daughter loses in her time in the military, she is a lucky girl, and you are a lucky parent.

With all of that being said I do wish her the best, as well as all of our service men and women.

I'm sure that with her just getting to reception and going through that experience that it's not quite as important to her now. It may have seemed like the end of the world at the time but I'm sure that by now she is ok.

Looking back on it basic was all fun and games, you just have to get used to the lack of sleep, and being cold or hot, yelled at constantly, random outbursts of anger lol. After basic was over I might have waved to two or three people on my way to the car and then I got out of there. When we got off the military base I started yelling, my mom was like what's wrong and like, "I'm Free!"

I don't think what that DI did was right. But I could certainly see it happening. I wouldn't be surprised if she got a little extra attention due to all the e-mails the DI got. We should have sent her a big box of cookies or something.

It's the military.

You know the organization that cannot promise that you wont die a death by fire or, bullet. You know that one that fights wars and stuff. And your daughter was in bootcamp as well. Suck it up and move on. Remember, you cannot email IED's . Might as well get used to sad facts and hard things in the beginning.

here's an idea, you wanna be respected, then quit following orders like a good little sheep and get a job that actually contributes to your country, and not the agenda of a certain few.

That goes for all armies really.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
here's an idea, you wanna be respected, then quit following orders like a good little sheep and get a job that actually contributes to your country, and not the agenda of a certain few.

Like what job?

Wall Street investment banker?

Home mortgage broker?

Community organizer?

Politician?

Those are jobs that are much more respected than a grunt in the Army, right?

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Let me make one thing clear, i am not in any way, bashing the brave men and women who give they're lives for a cause that is not they're own. These people were lied to and told they were fighting for America's freedom, when in fact they're fighting for American's enslavement. (The rest of the world's too)

My point was that anybody thinking of joining such an institution in these times worries me. I dont' know about you, but shooting people to me isn't fun, whether they deserved it or not. Especially when the end product is an illusion.

The examples you gave me, granted have not really helped in the past couple of years i'll give you that. But i can think of quite a few jobs related to energy and sustainable living that are quite worth the effort.

I'm a Graduate of MCRD PI 4/99. Like many others have said here , I was told by my recruiter what to bring (Myself and the clothes I was wearing) and what not to bring (Everything else) And I listened and had no problems. I know you are upset about this , but your daughter is an adult and needs to learn to get by on her own in life. One of the fundamental things an adult needs to learn is responsibility for their actions. Things in the military are pretty black and white , If you do "abc" then "xyz" happens. She was told "don't bring pictures" and she didn't listen and brought a picture so now the picture is gone. Hopefully she has learned her lesson (Albeit a sad one). All in all It's really not THAT serious... I mean at least you still have a daughter. I have had fellow Marines whose parents recieved a phone call starting with "we regret to inform you"... I'm sure they would give ANYTHING to have your problem.

Why do you think they are talking about starting the draft back up for. The way the treat people now the rate of volunteers is down big time.

Originally posted by fixer1967
Why do you think they are talking about starting the draft back up for. The way the treat people now the rate of volunteers is down big time.

The military is easy. You do what you are suppose to do within the law and no one bothers you. How is that mistreating people? Basic Training is as difficult as one makes it. The DI's are there to teach you discipline. They tell you to turn left and you turn left. If you turn right then your life will get a little difficult for about 30 minutes.

Basic Training is not a summer camp. Mess up and the way you are treated will be mentally tougher then what it already is. It is a good incentive to try harder.

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by fixer1967
Why do you think they are talking about starting the draft back up for. The way the treat people now the rate of volunteers is down big time.

The military is easy. You do what you are suppose to do within the law and no one bothers you. How is that mistreating people? Basic Training is as difficult as one makes it. The DI's are there to teach you discipline. They tell you to turn left and you turn left. If you turn right then your life will get a little difficult for about 30 minutes.

Basic Training is not a summer camp. Mess up and the way you are treated will be mentally tougher then what it already is. It is a good incentive to try harder.

OK here is one example. What about the 6 U.S. soldiers in iraq court-martialed for fixing up a Army truck the found wrecked so they could use it to finish there mission. Things that soldiers would have got prase for or even metals in the past are now getting court-martialed for. Basic Training is one thing but after you get over there is when the real crazy and stupid stuff happens.

Originally posted by fixer1967

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by fixer1967
Why do you think they are talking about starting the draft back up for. The way the treat people now the rate of volunteers is down big time.

The military is easy. You do what you are suppose to do within the law and no one bothers you. How is that mistreating people? Basic Training is as difficult as one makes it. The DI's are there to teach you discipline. They tell you to turn left and you turn left. If you turn right then your life will get a little difficult for about 30 minutes.

Basic Training is not a summer camp. Mess up and the way you are treated will be mentally tougher then what it already is. It is a good incentive to try harder.

OK here is one example. What about the 6 U.S. soldiers in iraq court-martialed for fixing up a Army truck the found wrecked so they could use it to finish there mission. Things that soldiers would have got prase for or even metals in the past are now getting court-martialed for. Basic Training is one thing but after you get over there is when the real crazy and stupid stuff happens.

Got over there and didn't see any real crazy or stupid stuff happen. I haven't heard about those 6 soldiers. Care to post a link?

Military life is easy like I said. If you haven't lived it then you really wouldn't know. You can read about it, but reading about it isn't really living it.

Originally posted by jd140
Military life is easy like I said. If you haven't lived it then you really wouldn't know. You can read about it, but reading about it isn't really living it.

I really hope you meant military life ISN'T easy? I have lived it, and its by far the roughest and most disiplined job one could have.

Originally posted by rcwj75

Originally posted by jd140
Military life is easy like I said. If you haven't lived it then you really wouldn't know. You can read about it, but reading about it isn't really living it.

I really hope you meant military life ISN'T easy? I have lived it, and its by far the roughest and most disiplined job one could have.

No I mean it is easy.

Discipline is not a problem for me. Maybe it is to you, but I enjoy the structure and the no nonsense. Sorry you thought it was rough. I enjoyed sleeping under the stars and doing late night force marches. Yes, I also enjoyed my time in Iraq. I helped alot of people and although I was away from my family, it made me feel good inside to know that someone is alive partially because of me.

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Originally posted by fixer1967
jd140 here is your link

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Thanks.

Reading know.

Originally posted by fixer1967
jd140 here is your link

www.highbeam.com...

news.google.com...



[edit on 1/4/2009 by fixer1967]

Not much I can say about that. It is unfortunate that things like that happens. I also noticed that it happened in 2004. If things like this was happening all the time then your arguement would be justified, but if this is what your basing your opinion of troops being mistreated then I don't see it. 1 incident in 4 years is reaching.

It is sad that they arent given enough discretion to be able to interpret the Intent of the Law (ban nudity and pornography) with the Rule of the Law (no "shirtless" pictures). The intent was probably more aimed at pictures of topless women but then that would be Politically Incorrect to focus on the women (altho some women would take a Playgirl with them if possible). But they way the picture regulation reads they would also ban pictures of your child in a diaper on a baby blanket! Ridiculous.

Originally posted by fixer1967
Why do you think they are talking about starting the draft back up for. The way the treat people now the rate of volunteers is down big time.

Not wanting to derail the thread, but the rate of volunteers is up at this time due to the economy.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Let me make one thing clear, i am not in any way, bashing the brave men and women who give they're lives for a cause that is not they're own.

No, you're just bashing the folks that have chosen to put their lives on the line to defend you and give you the right to criticize them.

These people were lied to and told they were fighting for America's freedom, when in fact they're fighting for American's enslavement. (The rest of the world's too)

Where is the proof of that? How many of your rights have the military taken away from you?

My point was that anybody thinking of joining such an institution in these times worries me. I dont' know about you, but shooting people to me isn't fun, whether they deserved it or not. Especially when the end product is an illusion.

New flash, most people join with the hope that they never will have to shoot someone in the performance of their duties.

The examples you gave me, granted have not really helped in the past couple of years i'll give you that. But i can think of quite a few jobs related to energy and sustainable living that are quite worth the effort.

Now I really want to know what you do for a living. Care to tell us?