I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Sleep well.

People do what they feel they have to do. I don't think your decision is an unreasonable one. Maybe it's time to get out and take a look at other places.

Personally, I think America is going to have to go through some very difficult times ahead. People can see through deceptions much more easily now than in the past. If economic conditions become very bad, I think you will see the end of the American public's tolerance for financial shenanigans emanating from the fat cats and foreign adventures designed to benefit the fat cats.

Good luck to you. I hope you heal and become strong again. Maybe when you come back you will have something valuable to give your country.

I joined a few days ago, and I'll be leaving ATS as well. I'm not going back to sleep, because what I have seen keeps me awake. And this site has many that are still sound asleep. Let's tiptoe out so as not to awaken them, eh?

Yah you've talked and thought your reality into reality.

Changing location never changed a thing unless you're going home to take care of BS.

This is a man or woman who has just had to take too much bs, and has lost faith in ppl's capacity to change and to learn. Admirable candour and feeling.

I hardly think that moving out of the US will do any good,any crisis now will be a global one,and why deny reality? I feel sorry for my kids they will have a tough road ahead of them,hiding your head under the sheets is only fooling yourself,I was always taught deal with what you have,I know it's getting hard to have a bright outlook,but running from your problems only makes them worse,I like ATS because some of the facts stated in here open ones eyes to the truth,I would rather be aware then to be suprised,suprise is only goos when opening up a wrapped present IMO

It would be as I quoted yesterday:
Only when it's darkest, can you see the stars

baby steps is all you can expect right now. good will triumph over evil, but it's gonna be messy. you cant expect change of this magnitude to happen overnight. this crap has had me down a very long time. it has taken my home of 20 years and now my collision shop is bankrupt. life in michigan is gloomy, to say the least.

lately though, i have been feeling the opposite. for no significant reason i believe things are about to explode. while future events may be harsh, i'm ready to get the thing started. waiting is the worst part for me. it needs to come out in a big way to wake this country up. when the food is absent of the shelves and the next wave of homes and jobs are lost, i think things will be different.

right now we all need to prepare for the worst and secure our families. plan a strategy to provide food and protection in a worst case scenario. when the SHTF, people will react.

jz

What doom and gloom, what dark times ahead.......

I'm not getting this. Are we talking about the financial crisis? I personally think it is a very good thing my kids growing up in a time where they will have the opportunity to learn that the best things in life have nothing to do with the size of your bank account. You know like grandma and grandpa always said......
All you babyboomer yuppies act like it's the end of times....i think it's an great new era ahead.

If not the financial crisis ,then what.....the coming of socialism/communism with the coming of Obama??? guess we'll have to give the good man a go...seems to me he can't do any worse than Bush now can he??

Maybe it's the coming of planet X 2012.....if that's the case maybe you should consider not having kids, cause a grip on realilty is something you need when having kids.

Chemtrails???...aliens??....the rapture???......what is it that makes you people so worried about the future...???

Maybe you people don't know how to balance and to much of a good thing is bad aswell. I personally like ATS and am not considering to leave it any time soon. I get a lot of laughs out of some of the posts and find out a lot of interesting things i didn't know or thought i knew.....

Long live ATS and for the ones who are leaving...sorry to see you go!!!!

friend,

it is your choice, for all things should be a matter of free choice and free will. But, it sounds to me like you are throwing in the towel.

many of us perceive what we discern as the truth of things, yet we all see differently, but, for some of us, talking about it will help, sometimes.

what has you so down?


seeker

nose up. but if you really decide to leave the US remember that you are warm welcome to Europe.

we will try to survive here and fight against the system.

take care

Originally posted by czacza
we will try to survive here and fight against the system.
take care

As oppose to were.....were are they not trying to survive???
Fight the system in Europe....no we're not....nobody fighting any system here as far as i know of. Exept maybe the Irish who rejected the treaty of Lissabon (nice going you guys.. )

Europe is no better than the states it just takes a little longer as always but everything happening in the states will inevitably effect Europe....

The OP is just whining 'cause of all the reactions he's got on the 2 threads he has made here on ATS.......look it up....

-7 headed beast in the book of Revelation (best explination I've ever seen)
-Similarities between the Titanic and the last days of America.

Both got ran into the ground by members for obvious reasons....


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Editted for obvious reasons as well, give it a few years... my english spelling will improve (hopefully)

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I'm wondering why he "so mad at ATS" right now.....

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I heard on the news last night that Obama would be making jobs for the unemployed... building new roads, windmills etc. Didnt the goverment so this during the great depression?? So a depression is on the way?

Being from Poland i can understand this statement better....sorry for that

Myself i'm from the Netherlands and there is absolutly nobody fighting against anything. But you are right ,this thread is not about this....

Very nice of you to try and cheers up the OP but i think he's beyond that.....he's just mad....