Maybe everyone is waiting for someone to start the Revolution

The key to knowing who is on Obama's side or who is going to use Obama look to Rahn Emmanuel and most Importantly, Bzrezinski, his advisor, was instrumental in designing the Trilateral Commission.

That same year, Brzezinski elaborated these thoughts in his book Between Two Ages. It shows Brzezinski to be a classic CFR man - a globalist more than lenient toward Communism. He declared that ‘National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept’, and that ‘Marxism represents a further vital, and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man, and a victory of reason over belief...’

The Trilateral Commission was formally established in 1973, and consisted of leaders in business, banking, government, and mass media from North America, Western Europe, and Japan. David Rockefeller was founding chairman, and Brzezinski founding director of the North American branch, most of whose members were also in the CFR.

In the Wall Street Journal, David Rockefeller explained that ‘the Trilateral Commission is, in reality, a group of concerned citizens interested in fostering greater understanding, and cooperation among international allies.’

Senator Barry Goldwater wrote:

‘David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski found Jimmy Carter to be their ideal candidate. They helped him win the nomination, and the presidency. To accomplish this purpose, they mobilized the money power of the Wall Street bankers, the intellectual influence of the academic community - which is subservient to the wealth of the great tax-free foundations - and the media controllers represented in the membership of the CFR, and the Trilateral.’

Seven months before the Democratic nominating convention, the Gallup Poll found less than four percent of Democrats favoring Jimmy Carter for President. But, almost overnight - like Willkie, and Eisenhower before him - he became the candidate."

This is probably one of the very best illustrations of the great power of the Elite. They can make or break any president or candidate for president. They made Jimmy Carter in his efforts to become president, and broke Senator Barry Goldwater in his failed attempt.

The TC membership is made up of present, and past Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers, foundation executives, Think Tank executives, lobbyist lawyers, NATO, and Pentagon military leaders, wealthy industrialist, media owners, and executives, university presidents, and key professors, select Senators, and Congressmen, and wealthy entrepreneurs.

They hold annual secret meetings including only members, and very select guests.

I found this very interesting post on Fourwinds10.com
fourwinds10.com...
Apparently, some people have already started to band together to 'fight back'. I was particularly intrigued by the description of a rumored assassination attempt on Obama on election night.

And for those of you who contacted me via U2U, it seems that freenigma isn't working out like I had hoped. I'm open to other suggestions.

Probably most of the instigators on here are agents, trying to entrap as many as possible. I'm sure that is their silly little game. I'm always up for a scrap.

You guys still think you've got a hope at a revolution after five pages of procrastinisation. Even the people who comment on people waiting for the revolution are waiting for said revolution. Fortunately, you have no hope.

False flag or excuse......to set up a world government since our beginnings.

1776 - fight for Liberty as trigger for war and economic control. On May 1, 1776, Adam Weishaupt [Luciferian and Mason] finished the detailed plan for the World Government that we are dealing with today A brilliant plan, but evil to the core. On July 4, 1776, 95% of the participants actually believed it was for freedom and for a noble cause.

1790's - set up Slavery as next trigger. Fight for the abolishing of the pagan beliefs of the south and free the slaves for a noble cause.

1812 - Opps, Andrew Jackson is wise and balances the budget. Let's assassinate him. Opps both flintlocks misfire...but, he gets the message sort of like Reagan.

Run the Mexicans out their own land.....

(February 23 – March 6, 1836); The Battle of the Alamo is the most famous battle of the Texas Revolution. After an insurgent army of Texian settlers and adventurers from the United States drove all Mexican troops out of Mexican Texas, President Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna led an invasion to regain control of the area. Mexican forces arrived in San Antonio de Bexar on February 23 and initiated a siege of the Texian forces garrisoned at the Alamo Mission.

1850 - 1871: Albert Pike plans WWI, WWII and WWIII for the 20th or 21st century.

1850 - set up the Civil war by using slavery as the motivation. After slavery was integrated into the generations of the south to give it a firm foundation. In the meantime, send Karl Marx, and Karl Ritter to write a thesis and anti-thesis to fulfill the plans for WWI nad WWII a generation or two later.

1861-----Civil war breaks out.....Europeans have plans to invade the U.S.while they are fighting. down with slavery.......is the resounding cry as the bankers and Illuminati [Rothschilds funded both the north and south. The did the same during the japanese and russian war of 1905. In order to bring about the revolution that Pike had planned by 1871. Rothschilds pulled funding from Russia causing them to lose the war and setting them up for revolution in 1905. WALL STREET FUNDS LENIN....in 1904 and later the BOLSHEVIKS after communism has firmly been established with the revolting parties....to take over. demonized the Tsar, lie to the history books and blame the jews by Zionist Jews.......Amazing planning.

1865 - Tsar sends Russian troops to NY Harbor and foils the European invasion......really ticks off the Rothschilds who gets revenge later when the Tsar is assassinated early 1900s. Or the next generation leader.

1865 - Lincoln like Andrew Jackson decides not to take international banker loan at 33% interest......masons assassinate Lincoln.

1870's - run the Indians out of their land...........sound familiar?

1880 - 1890 - Industrialize Japan and get rid of the Samauri. getting ready for the Russian and japanese war in 1904. same people same agenda to world government step by step, inch by inch. phase by phase.



Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

1. In applying our principles let attention be paid to the character of the people in whose country you live and act; a general, identical application of them, until such time as the people shall have been re-educated to our pattern, cannot have success.

1909 – Meeting of The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, quoted from the minutes of the meeting. “The trustees of the Foundation brought up a single question. If it is desirable to alter the life of a single people, is there any means more efficient than war…. They discussed this question…… for a year and came up with an answer: There are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective is altering the life of an entire people. That leads them to a question: How do we involve the United States in a war?

[Written by former U.S. Congressman Norman Dodd, testified that he was invited to study the minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace: Report from Iron Mountain, New York, Dell Pub., 1967].

They then set out to establish the controls necessary to set up a war and get this party started, by taking over the economics first, in 1910 at Jekyll Island.

The bankers in this country, especially J.P. Morgan, created a currency panic in 1907 in order to get the American people to accept the idea of a central bank.
A central bank already existed in England from as far back as 1694.
The Rothschilds completely dominate the banking system. It is estimated their wealth goes into the trillions.
November 1910 - Some of the vultures came together at the Jekyl Island Hunt Club on Jekyl Island, Georgia. What were they hunting? The biggest prize of all, the absolute and complete control of all the money in America which meant control of all America and with it the power to make slaves of all the people.

Those who attended were: Senator Nelson Aldrich (Nelson Rockefeller's maternal grandfather); A. Piatt Andrew, Economist and Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; Frank Vanderlip, President of the National City Bank of New York; Henry P. Norton, President of Morgan's First National Bank of New York; Paul Moritz Warburg, a German who was partner in the New York banking house of Kuhn, Loeb Co.; Benjamin Strong, an aid to J. P. Morgan.

Paul Warburg was credited as the architect of the bill, which was passed by Congress and signed by traitorous Woodrow Wilson. It was entitled the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. America once again had a central bank but this time they had placed America under an absolute dictatorship. President James Garfield had insight into this situation:

"It must be realized that whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolutely master of all industry commerce."

1913 - Federal Reserve Act put into law by Rockefellers on Dec 24 1913. The Act was passed by congress to set up a privately owned "central bank". Paul Walburg is the first chairman. The Federal Reserve (neither federal nor a reserve) is created. It was planned at a secret meeting in 1910 on Jekyll Island, Georgia by a group of bankers and politicians, including Col. House. This transferred the power to create money from the American government to a private group of bankers. It is probably the largest generator of debt in the world.

28 July 1914 -- World War I is triggered by the assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand of Austria. The assassination of an Austrian Archduke was merely an incident providing an excuse for starting a chain reaction designed to start World War I.

3 August 1914 – German Officially Declares War Upon France.

1915 – Year that the establishment of an unholy partnership between the U.S. Government and the ‘War Industries Board', for-runner of America's present day 'military-industrial complex'. Some of those seated on the board of directors were Samuel P. Bush, great grandfather of George W. bush, and so-called chief of Ordnance for the Small Arms and Ammunition Section, Wall Street banker Clarence Dillon, Samuel Pryor, executive committee chairman of Remington Arms, and Bernard Baruch, who, as head of the War Industries Board profited in excess of $200,000,000.

The members of the Board aptly came to be known as the "Merchants of Death." Using the facade of government to legitimize their operations, the War Industries Board represented the big munitions makers of the day who dispatched agents around the globe to sell the weapons and materials of war to both sides of any conflict. They bribed government officials and used their corporate influence and capitol to increase international tensions, which in turn generated demand and maximized profit.

It was during the First World War that Samuel P. Bush and the other board members amassed fortunes selling the weapons and materials of war not only to America but also to Germany. Most of the records and correspondence pertaining to Samuel P. Bush's activities on the War Industries Board were later burned mysteriously, "to save space" in the National Archives. When their business venture officially ended on November 11, 1918, some 37,508,686 human beings had been killed. It set a dangerous precedent for the destiny of America and the destiny of civilization itself. A small group of corporate manufactures, bankers, and industrialists had formulated a devilishly effective method by which profit is extracted from human suffering, war, and death, and their dark technique would be repeated and refined.

1915 - The international conspirators were plotting to overthrow the Russian government. In 1915 American International Corporation was formed by the bankers to finance the Communist revolution. Leon Trotsky was sent to Russia with American diplomatic assistance to foment the revolution.

*****As planned by Albert Pike from 1850 to 1871.

Now is needed by current day Illuminati, a false flag incident.

1 May 1915 – Lusitania departs for Liverpool. Carried 1, 313 passengers. A man speaking English with a German accent circulated among the passengers on the pier a warning that the Lusitania was doomed. Anonymous telegrams were received by scores of passengers just before the steaming of the vessel, warning them that she would be torpedoed or destroyed, and advising them to cancel their passages. It was believed to be the work of German agency. [The Front Page; From the International Herald Tribune 1887-1980; P. 33. The New York Herald; European Edition, Paris, Saturday, May 8, 1915].


1900's we know about these years to 1909.

League of nations by Colonel Mandel House, [the Brzezinski for Obama] but in this case for Woodrow Wilson to start making plans for a the next war and model for the World Government.....failed. NOT READY.........in the USA yet. Congress said no.

WATCH THESE LIES!!!!!!!!!

MSM - Political correct way of history........

The League of Nations came into being after the end of World War One. The League of Nation's task was simple - to ensure that war never broke out again. After the turmoil caused by the Versailles Treaty, many looked to the League to bring stability to the world.

America entered World War One in 1917. The country as a whole and the president - Woodrow Wilson in particular - was horrified by the slaughter that had taken place in what was meant to be a civilised part of the world. The only way to avoid a repetition of such a disaster, was to create an international body whose sole purpose was to maintain world peace and which would sort out international disputes as and when they occurred. This would be the task of the League of Nations.

After the devastation of the war, support for such a good idea was great (except in America where isolationism was taking root).

This was the first attempt for setting up a world government, after they [American Illuminati] was told not to rush it by the European powers.

1919 - Formed Counsel on Foreign Relations by Rockefellers along with the RIIA [Royal Institute of International Affairs] in England by the Rothschilds as sister organizations to think tank the next move to get us ready for world government.

openeuropeblog.blogspot.com...

1921 - Set up for the Great Depression to set up for a US Military Coup in 1933.

1927 - Final plans for depression

1928 - Wall street funds Hitler............

1929 - Depression hits as planned and in 1933 the planned military coup I outlined before was stopped in 1934 or 1935 by General Butler, USMC.

1934 - Time to set up another war............with Japanese on schedule.

1934 to 1941 - Pearl Harbor is the false Flag this time.............FDR is guilty of murder for 2,000 marines and sailors.....by following the Illuminati plan, provoke the japanese and seal off intelligence so that the attack would be devastating and Americans would want to go to war and FDR would not have to go back on his promise of not sending American boys to Europe to fight the wars. A war with Japan allowed the US To declare war on Italy and Germany.

1948 - Declaration of Israel as a state. Preparation of WWIII and next phase per Albert Pikes plans in 1871.

1948 - Failed CIA Operation to overthrow Hoxha in Albania similiar to Bay of Pigs failure...by Frank Wisner, Sr.

1954 - Formation of the Bilderbergers to plan for WWIII to start in 1960 to start by attacking Cuba who would be communist and instigate a war with Russia by Bay of Pigs.

"In 1954, the most powerful men in the world met for the first time under the auspices of the Dutch royal crown and the Rockefeller family at the luxurious Hotel Bilderberg in the small Dutch town of Oosterbeck. For an entire weekend, the debated the future of the world. When it was over, they decided to meet once every year to exchange ideas and analyze international affairs. They named themselves the Bilderberg Group. Since then, they have gathered yearly in a luxurious hotel somewhere in the world to try to decide the future of humanity. Among the select members of this club are Bill Clinton, Paul Wolfowitz, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Tony Blair and many other heads of government, businessmen, politicians, bankers and journalists from all over the world," writes journalist Daniel Estulin in the opening paragraph of the introduction to his must-read book, The True Story of the Bilderberg Group.

And it's not just in the US. The Bilderberg Group and its parallel groups, among which are the CFR, the Trilateral Commission (founded by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski), the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) based at Chatham House in London, and their interlocking memberships are at work throughout the Western world and are endeavoring to get their hooks into the rest. The European Union is their baby.

bilderbergbook.com...

During Fulgencio Batista’s dictatorship in Cuba, the CIA tried on several occasions to stop the “Movimiento 26 de Julio” forces from reaching victory. In mid-1958, the CIA contacted Justo Carrillo to carry a coup with politicians and military uncommitted to Batista in order to end the latter’s regime and call for normalcy, so that the insurrectional fight would lose its momentum and main objective. Such attempt did not succeed, and the “Movimiento 26 de Julio,” with the support of the people, assumed power.

The naming of Allen Dulles as head of the CIA in 1959 opened a new chapter in the fight to stop the Soviet Union from gaining any ground. Several operations of varied types took place at this time, many of them relevant to shaping the course of events, and the help given to US sympathizers or those afraid of “the Russians.”

GOOD ARTICLE..................

www.cubasocialista.cu...

December 31, 1958. Two day s before, Major Ernesto "Che" Guevara (1928-67), Castro's comrade-in-arms, had gained a coup by capturing an armored train loaded with weapons at Santa Clara. Realizing that all support for his government had eroded, Batista fled with his family to the Dominican Republic on January 1, 1959,

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1960 - Failed Bay of Pigs to start WWIII

1960 - Failed Bay of Pigs to start WWIII

The Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest the world ever came to nuclear war. The United States armed forces were at their highest state of readiness ever and Soviet field commanders in Cuba were prepared to use battlefield nuclear weapons to defend the island if it was invaded. Luckily, thanks to the bravery of two men, President John F. Kennedy and Premier Nikita Khrushchev, war was averted.

Kennedy saw the photographs on October 16; 1962 [18] he assembled the Executive Committee of the National Security Council (ExComm), fourteen key officials and his brother Robert, at 9.00 a.m. The U.S. had no plan for dealing with such a threat, because U.S. intelligence was convinced the Soviets would not install nuclear missiles in Cuba. The EXCOM quickly discussed five courses of action:
1. do nothing
2. use diplomatic pressure to get the Soviet Union to remove the missiles
3. an air attack on the missiles
4. a full military invasion
5. the naval blockade of Cuba, which was redefined as a more restrictive quarantine.[19]
Unanimously, the Joint Chiefs of Staff agreed that a full-scale attack and invasion was the only solution. They agreed that the Soviets would not act to stop the U.S. from conquering Cuba; Kennedy was skeptical, saying:

WWIII failed to start.

Illuminati formed the Iron Mountain Commission [1963] on how to set up for phasing in the USA citizens to be ready for a world government.

From the Iron

The Functions of War

The visible, military function of war requires no elucidation; it is not only obvious but also irrelevant to a transition to the condition of peace, in which it will by definition be superfluous. It is also subsidiary in social significance to the implied, nonmilitary functions of war; those critical to transition can be summarized in five principal groupings.
1. Economic. War has provided both ancient and modern societies with a dependable system for stabilizing and controlling national economies. No alternate method of control has yet been tested in a complex modern economy that has shown itself remotely comparable in scope or effectiveness.

2. Political. The permanent possibility of war is the foundation for stable government; it supplies the basis for general acceptance of political authority. It has enabled societies to maintain necessary class distinctions, and it has ensured the subordination of the citizen to the state, by virtue of the residual war powers inherent in the concept of nationhood. No modern political ruling group has successfully controlled its constituency after failing to sustain the continuing credibility of an external threat of war.

3. Sociological. War, through the medium of military institutions, has uniquely served societies, throughout the course of known history, as an indispensable controller of dangerous social dissidence and destructive antisocial tendencies. As the most formidable of threats to life itself, and as the only one susceptible to mitigation by social organization alone, it has played another equally fundamental role: the war system has provided the machinery through which the motivational forces governing human behavior have been translated into binding social allegiance. It has thus ensured the degree of social cohesion necessary to the viability of nations. No other institution, or group of institutions, in modern societies, has successfully served these functions.

4. Ecological. War has been the principal evolutionary device for maintaining a satisfactory ecological balance between gross human population and supplies available for its survival. It is unique to the human species.

5. Cultural and Scientific. War-orientation has determined the basic standards of value in the creative arts, and has provided the fundamental motivational source of scientific and technological progress. The concepts that the arts express values independent of their own forms and that the successful pursuit of knowledge has intrinsic social value have long been accepted in modern societies; the development of the arts and sciences during this period has been corollary to the parallel development of weaponry.

Substitutes for the Functions of War: Models

The following substitute institutions, among others, have been proposed for consideration as replacements for the nonmilitary functions of war. That they may not have been originally set forth for that purpose does not preclude or invalidate their possible application here.
1. Economic.
a) A comprehensive social-welfare program, directed toward maximum improvement of general conditions of human life.
b) A giant open-end space research program, aimed at unreachable targets.
c) A permanent, ritualized, ultra-elaborate disarmament inspection system, and variants of such a system.
2. Political.
a) An omnipresent, virtually omnipotent international police force.
b) An established and recognized extraterrestrial menace.
c) Massive global environmental pollution.
d) Fictitious alternate enemies.
3. Sociological:
- Control function.
a) Programs generally derived from the Peace Corps model.
b) A modern, sophisticated form of slavery.
- Motivational function.
a) Intensified environmental pollution.
b) New religious or other mythologies.
c) Socially oriented blood games.
d) Combination forms.
4. Ecological. A comprehensive program of applied eugenics.

5. Cultural. No replacement institution offered. Scientific. The secondary requirements of the space research, social welfare, and/or eugenics programs.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

NOTE: Obama advisor raises concerns
Zbigniew Brzezinski defended attack on US Jewish lobby; but analysts warn against hasty conclusions
Concerns have been raised among Israel supporters following the appointment of a controversial veteran political advisor by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Last week, Obama introduced Zbigniew Brzezinski as "one of our most outstanding thinkers" during a policy speech on the Iraq war. Brzezinski, selected by Obama to advise him on foreign policy affairs, has taken a highly critical stance towards Israel in the past, and has defended an academic attack on the American Jewish lobby which has been branded by some as being anti-Semitic. He has previously served as a national security advisor to President Jimmy Carter.
www.ynetnews.com...
Now, keeping this in mind, read the following and then decide whether there is something really sneaky going on.



Next attempt to Martial law was during Nixon's presidential period and this involved the Watergate. It was too early because two issues were not discussed in previous meetings. One, the number of weapons that individual Americans had and second, the Islamic obstacle to this Luciferian One World Government. Sadat was in the way.......hint hint.....

1973: Formation of the Trilateral Commission for the next planning stage leading to the next attempt as martial law...........

In 1973, David Rockefeller asked Zbigniew Brzezinski to put together an organization of the top political, and business leaders from around the World. He called this group the Trilateral Commission (TC).
The stated goals of the Trilateral Commission are: "Close Trilateral cooperation in keeping the peace, in managing the world economy, in fostering economic redevelopment, and alleviating world poverty will improve the chances of a smooth, and peaceful evolution of the global system." (Emphasis added.)

finally.........

The Shadows of Power, by James Perloff, Copyright 1988, pages 154-156, states:
"How did the TC begin? ‘The Trilateral Commission,’ wrote Christopher Lydon in the July 1977 Atlantic, ‘was David Rockefeller’s brainchild.’ George Franklin, North American secretary of the Trilateral Commission, stated that it ‘was entirely David Rockefeller’s idea originally.’ Helping the CFR chairman develop the concept was Zbigniew Brzezinski, who laid the first stone in Foreign Affairs in 1970:

‘A new, and bolder approach is needed - creation of a community of the developed nations which can effectively address itself to the larger concerns confronting mankind. In addition to the United States, and Western Europe, Japan ought to be included ... A council representing the United States, Western Europe, and Japan, with regular meetings of the heads of governments as well as some small standing machinery, would be a good start.’

That same year, Brzezinski elaborated these thoughts in his book Between Two Ages. It shows Brzezinski to be a classic CFR man - a globalist more than lenient toward Communism. He declared that ‘National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept’, and that ‘Marxism represents a further vital, and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man, and a victory of reason over belief...’

The Trilateral Commission was formally established in 1973, and consisted of leaders in business, banking, government, and mass media from North America, Western Europe, and Japan. David Rockefeller was founding chairman, and Brzezinski founding director of the North American branch, most of whose members were also in the CFR.

In the Wall Street Journal, David Rockefeller explained that ‘the Trilateral Commission is, in reality, a group of concerned citizens interested in fostering greater understanding, and cooperation among international allies.’

Senator Barry Goldwater wrote:

‘David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski found Jimmy Carter to be their ideal candidate. They helped him win the nomination, and the presidency. To accomplish this purpose, they mobilized the money power of the Wall Street bankers, the intellectual influence of the academic community - which is subservient to the wealth of the great tax-free foundations - and the media controllers represented in the membership of the CFR, and the Trilateral.’

Seven months before the Democratic nominating convention, the Gallup Poll found less than four percent of Democrats favoring Jimmy Carter for President. But, almost overnight - like Willkie, and Eisenhower before him - he became the candidate."

This is probably one of the very best illustrations of the great power of the Elite. They can make or break any president or candidate for president. They made Jimmy Carter in his efforts to become president, and broke Senator Barry Goldwater in his failed attempt.
The TC membership is made up of present, and past Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers, foundation executives, Think Tank executives, lobbyist lawyers, NATO, and Pentagon military leaders, wealthy industrialist, media owners, and executives, university presidents, and key professors, select Senators, and Congressmen, and wealthy entrepreneurs.

They hold annual secret meetings including only members, and very select guests.

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Wellstone assassination
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Reflect to the Iron Mountain Commission and their objectives set in motion while Johnson was President in 1965 +

Now here we are..............Desert Storm was the signal that they now had the power to get this final phase in place....leading to WWIII and the New World Order........

Bush can now come out in the public. All the others before 1990, for example, Sadat, JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, Ghandi, Bhutto, and many others had gotten in the way.....

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They have thought of everything....but, the return of Jesus Christ to take them out in due time.


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The end of the past ages is drawing near; the beginning of our New Future looms on the Horizon". T.Gambill

There will be no "revolution", any American who's waiting for one, is very much diluted.

I'm not trying to poke fun too much but I always get a kick out of listening to Americans go on about their right to bare arms so they can keep the government in line. Especially when they get all worked up about laws affecting that sacred second amendment, using the same justification.

I know having guns makes everyone feel like a big man but come on, let's all be honest with ourselves, that gun isn't leaving the range.

Why aren't all the internet tough guys with guns out protesting peacefully right now before escalating to using violence?

If no one cares enough to walk outside with a sign, why exactly does anyone figure they'll have the nerve to take the life of another human being?

You can rest assured that when an American is pushed into a corner for the most part they get ugly. If that American is former Military especially Marine or Army they will kill and ask questions later.

However, you are correct in this "revolution" notion. A revolution is EXACTLY what our own INNER GOVERNMENT is hoping for. They have inflitrated special agents into the militia's to ensure they participate in an armed uprising in order for the government to declare a national disaster and subsequent martial law. In a short while afterwards, when the dollar crashes it WILL NOT come back up this time. This crash like the one in 1929 was and this is orchestrated and planned a long time ago preparing for the declaration of martial law, and the surprise appearance of UN and Russian troops already inside the US. The main forces and resupply and logistics, fire support is located in South American, southern most part of Mexico, Cuba, and Alaska. Several US cities will be hit with a 12-15 KT nuke, others will be hit with with a flu pandemic to eliminate bodies but not buildings. As we speak the South American Union, African Union, Scandanavian Union, Australian Union, Asian Union and several more to make 10 altogether. There will be one leader for all of them who will head this United Nations federation. It will be a facist, Communist and Nazi hybrid governmental system. Communism is an anti-thesis to Facism however this government coming will be a hybrid. It is already a done deal and fully organized they just need a incident.........The entire world will be onboard when this goes down and its within two years of being solid.............

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I think they fear National Guard units and units of the regular Army turning against them. Guard and Army units are made up of our friends, neighbors and family members.

I can not find the site reference right off the bat, But the US has signed an agreement with the Canadian Military (Feb 14, 2008) to come into the USA to help in cases of civil unrest. I imagine a similar agreement was made with Mexico but not published.

I think they will try for a corporate take over of farms and seed first if they can get away with it. It is already planned and the first phase (livestock) starts January 2009.. EU already has all the red tape and laws in place, like no sale of any seed that is not on the "official list" (Good bye to heritage breeds of seed, that is seeds that breed true). The USA has already started to pick off farmers one by one and the US food reserves are gone thanks to the Freedom to Farm Act. Famine has always been used as a weapon of war.

The battle between US farmers (many Vietnam vets) and USDA agents may be the start. There is certainly a LOT of ill will against the USDA trying to enforce "the Mark of the Beast" and regulate the freedom to farm.

The problem of rebelling is that we're already trapped...and clueless about many things, one of which is the PTB and their true intentions. Now yes certain info has been exposed, but when we put these puzzle pieces together, it's hardly a clear picture. Please understand that they are everywhere. Hidden. And we can't fight what we don't see.

PP< this is true as they have in fact had this planned in concept form since the late 1700s' [Rothschilds and Adam Weishaupt] carried from father to son for generations........the Illuminati......fact.

you are correct in that these brave militia's, former military, [I'm a former Marine that has discovered the truth of this], are going to revolt etc......

they have no idea what they are up against. No idea what the Illuminati have planned. The CFR 1919, Bilderbergers 1954, Iron Mountain Commission 1963-1967 timeframe [was not a hoax by any stretch], and finally the Trilateral Commission.......to get us ready finally. They knew that this fake war on terror was in the bag after 1990 with Desert Storm. The failing banks recently is a dead giveway and the hints by Powell, Biden, and many more indicated that something is coming. The CIA/FBI wants the militia to revolt to justify national martial law....I would venture a guess that their active participators or organizers are undercover FBI or CIA to make sure that a revolution is fomented....

Originally posted by Studenofhistory
I've posted similar thoughts on a couple of other threads. I invite anyone who is passionate about doing SOMETHING to U2U me. If you do, I'll suggest a practical plan of action.

how do we know you aren't a traitor looking to ID all those who may become rebels?
I am scared to u2u you...

They just had a report on redicecreations that one of the top predictors said the revolution would not come right away and would be blood less, I hope so. 2010 or 2011 You know they will never win their own troops would turn on them, it would be the NATO's. Anyhow the big thing right now is with food GM food, and the Codex Alimentarius on food and vitamins, food lables, it's coming 12/31/2009 we must comply, or we must pay $$. Now when they take the ingredients lable off the food, you won't know what you are eating, or where its from. They are going to put that bovine stuff in all moo cow milk, they are going to nuke all the food for shelf life. But no one will ever know, not even if it's solent Green, because it won't say.
So I wrote congress and told them they will not get my Vitamins, and I won't eat there crap food.
Oh and don't forget your Real-ID is voluntary mandatory, 12/31/2009

[edit on 6-12-2008 by googolplex]

reply to post by BOTAL

Your concern is a valid one. Anyone on ATS could be an NWO stooge. I thought I had found a way to communicate outside of ATS using a new email service called freenigma, which is based in Europe but it's so new, they're still working the bugs out of it so that's not a realistic option. What I was hoping to achieve, and I invite suggestions on how to do this, is to set up dedicated network among people who are brave enough to take action. The idea here is not necessarily to share plans, which would be leaked to the NWO but rather to be able to share information on what is really happening that the compromised news media can't or won't talk about. If a revolt actually takes place somewhere in the US, the rest of us have to know about it to be able to take the appropriate action at the right time or else it will just be a local uprising, which even if it succeeds, will have limited impact.

I also want to address a couple of other comments made about my other posts. The agreement with Canada and Mexico to share military forces is not a threat to the US. Canada's military is so small, it's not even capable of reacting to internal threats like a mass uprising of Indian nations.

Secondly, the notion that National Guard and Regular Army revolts can be overcome by using foreign troops is not realistic either. I can't think of anything that would enrage Americans more than to see foreign troops occupying their cities or towns. If I owned guns and US army troops came to my house to confiscate them, I might resist but if foreign troops came to your house, I for damn sure would resist!

And another thing, this rumored mass mobilization if true is actually good for us because all those former soldiers who haven't been in the army for years maybe decades are a lot more likely to be sympathetic to the general civilian population than those who were already active in the military

Chinese troops and Russian troops are already in Mexico, Russians in South America and Cuba. Russian transport will come over Alaska. There are over 500,000 Russian and Chinese troops inside the US now.

i feel the sheep dont care as long as they live out there life with their family and go home to their white picket fence.

and ppl who do care are a small enough number to not do anything big

but ppl wont go willingly

“The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall.” -Ernesto Che Guevara

You got it....however, there is an alarm clock being set...soon.

[edit on 7-12-2008 by WyrdeOne]