Maybe everyone is waiting for someone to start the Revolution

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posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 11:16 AM
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Apparently CNN has recently admitted that 1/3 of all Americans believe that 9/11 was an inside job. When I read that, my immediate thought was how come there aren't mass demonstrations against the government? The answer that occurred to me is that maybe everyone is waiting for someone else to start the revolution. No one wants to be the first. If that's the case, how can be overcome this hurdle? Any suggestions?




posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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It would take something like Rodney King...



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Studenofhistory
Apparently CNN has recently admitted that 1/3 of all Americans believe that 9/11 was an inside job. When I read that, my immediate thought was how come there aren't mass demonstrations against the government? The answer that occurred to me is that maybe everyone is waiting for someone else to start the revolution. No one wants to be the first. If that's the case, how can be overcome this hurdle? Any suggestions?


My problem is, Since these guys had the power to create 9-11, which I believe was a conspiracy that had been planned several upon several years in advance (since maybe 1997 or longer)... What the hell can we do to stop them?

A revolution could be exactly what the PTB wants.



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 11:48 AM
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well you could always throw the first rock or Molotov cocktail...




posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
A revolution could be exactly what the PTB wants.


I'm pretty sold on this. However...

I think that it's a fine line they're walking between "civil unrest" and a full scale revolution. I think they're aiming for the severe side of "civil unrest", as a full scale revolution could be quite a dangerous situation for "them".

Severe civil unrest paves the way for military intervention and martial law. If they can institute certain measures in time, a unified uprising would be difficult for "we the people" to pull off. It's like putting us on leashes before opening the doors of our cages.

I can almost see the Obama birth place issue being a situation created to ignite the unrest and divide the country even further than the election did. People take to the streets, and we get NSPD-51 crammed down our collective throat.

On the other hand, let the suffering fester for a while longer, give time to allow more and more of us to rub the sleep from our eyes, contemplate our existence, organize and unite, and before you know it, we're the one's running the show. Nobody, and I mean nobody, not any government, not any military, would want to be in direct conflict with a united and awakened public. Give it long enough, and it won't just be an American thing either. Our brothers and sisters across the deserts, jungles and oceans will take their own actions.

Essentially, the only way we lose is by allowing "them" to win. Unfortunately, we have a long history of doing exactly that. Are we ready to take our destiny into our own hands? Are we ready to create the change ourselves rather than hope someone else will do it for us? Only time will tell.

I have to say, as turbulent as these times are, I consider myself lucky to be living in these times. We are all witnessing and experiencing an acute transformation of human civilization. For better or worse, these are very exciting times to be living in.

Good luck to us all, we're going to need it.

Watch your neighbors back, and do something nice for someone today.

~Unit



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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We need a REAL DIRECT DEMOCRACY in this country.. this REPUBLIC crap needs to go.. We need to look at the way ATHENS was run.. which was the BEST AND ONLY example of a democracy in our history.. this is what we need.,



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Studenofhistory
Any suggestions?


You go on ahead and get things started. If it works out, let us know. I'm a little busy for revolution at the moment, but maybe you can find some other folks here willing to pitch in.

Good luck with that!



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 02:33 PM
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A real direct democracy is only mob rule. Is that what you really want? I can just see where we would be if everyone followed this. It is a fact that a democracy will only last until the people realize that they can vote themselves all the money. Even with a constitutional republic we aren't far from that now.

As to what will start the revolution who really knows? It may well be a Boston Tea Party type situation. We may not have been far from it with the four dollar gas and record oil company profits as we have seen a rapid de-escalation of fuel prices when it should be at seasonal highs.

I for one think that there will be many smaller skirmish type incidents, or another Waco or Ruby Ridge type incident. Perhaps this will occur over a gun rights type of situation, after confiscation legislation. Many people will be put to the test and have to putt up or shut up.

As of right now too many people still see the msm as the only source of news. When more people begin to wake up and more noise is created then we might start to see civil disobedience taken to the next level. I don't see this happening for some time yet. Perhaps if the economy gets worse and more and more people are forced out in to the streets we will see something, I am sure that this situation will get worse as time goes on. It has been officially estimated that we might see 9% unemployment, I see it much worse than that. Hungry, angry, displaced people are a great force to be dealt with.

respectfully

reluctantpawn



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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Well, except for the guy who wants a true democracy instead of all this republic crap, I agree with your comments. IF the general public were both motivated AND organized, then the factions behind 9/11 and the NWO would be worred but I don't see us being organized even 7 years after 9/11. Sure there are grass-roots groups trying to spread the Word and I'm all for that but active planning to kick the bastards out? I don't see us organizing for that. The election obviously didn't work in that regard. What I think we need is something so in your face that the media won't be able to ignore it. Just thinking out loud here but what about a million man march on Washington, maybe in time for the new President's Inauguration?
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How about a grassroots movement, similar to Ron Paul's fund raising, in order to raise funds to support a civil suit for wrongful death against Bush,Cheney et al, similar to what O.J. went thru after his criminal trial. Even if Bush pardons himself and all the key players from criminal charges, I think they could still be sued in civil court for 'damages'. The trial would be the place were all the damning evidence would be publicized.

These are just two ideas that occurred to me off the top of my head. I'm sure there are even better ideas out there that are waiting to be suggested. Let's hear them, folks!



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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"how come there aren't mass demonstrations against the government?"

I shall answer you with pictures (which as we know, are equivalent to several thousand words):





*Remember back in 2003 when protests would comprise of several hundred thousand people marching - as opposed to just a few thousand people confined to a 'free speech zone?

I remember.




[edit on 21-11-2008 by TruthTellist]



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 09:25 PM
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I believe this issue was brought up in another topic, along that line, someone brought up the use of these forums as a way to tranquilize our society, the more time spend chatting idly here, the less time we take to actually go out and make a difference in the country.

On that note, there were also comparisons made between our situation now, and the cultural revolution that was the 60's. Now this is my honest opinion, I believe that we have the capacity to make real change happen, but as was stated before, a lot of us are asleep, or JUST NOW becoming aware of what is really going on, and from that a seed is planted, eventually things will be pushed too far, and I have a deep rooted belief that we as Americans, will not just stand aside and watch this happen.

Once again, as has been stated before in many different threads, people FLOCK to the US in hopes of avoiding all the turmoil from their country (Cuba, Russia, China etc.) I very much doubt that we'll stand for more of the same here.

As for protesting ad marches....I learned first hand how difficult it can be, I attended a school in the middle of downtown Miami's red zone during FTAA, we were all sent abck to our home schools for the entire week. Our faculty was up in arms over it, this was my freshman year, and it was all so new to me, but seeing some of my teachers, seeing some of my friends actually go out and stand for what they believed in regardless of the consequences actually gave me a renewed hope in America.

There are people out there making a revolution, you just have to find them.

Now I'm not saying we should go around throwing cocktails at store windows, but I do have this feeling of NEEDING to DO SOMETHING about what's happening, and I know plenty of people who agree with me.

-JR
edit: tweaking this and that

[edit on 21-11-2008 by bandaidctrl]



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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The US is a corporation,we form our own sovereign corporation

and manage it for our own benefit as a non profit,we declare our Independence from US corp and move our investments to NEW.S. Corp.

At least that's what I'm working on seeing what it would take to do that

So no War no fighting in the streets ,just a corporate coupe

we fire them and confiscate their /our assets and reorganize under new management



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 10:20 PM
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You must have a Leader to start the Revolution! Plain and simple. It will indeed take more people being hungry and homeless. I do believe it will happen in the next couple of years. Hold onto your seats!! Good Luck!



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 11:15 PM
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All this macho talk about "armed revolution". Think about it: the patriot act. and all those unconstitutional laws are on the books.March , engage the security troops of the ministry of love and what do you get?,a few broken bones, a few jail terms, The powers that be (rich) ,&lobbyists, still run the show from their deck chairs in the Hamptons. (congress changes laws)



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 02:28 AM
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Quite right about the leader or leaders as our problem is global.
I don't know what to think. Everyday I'm reading, watching putting the pieces together and the only thing that keeps coming to mind is, I have to do something.
Everyone around me keeps saying what can you do, what are you gonna a do?
That is why guys get irrationale and run into the street with automatic weapons.
Its not because their crazy they just can't take it anymore.Not Knowing..
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? I'm sickened by my own diplomacy in this matter.
It makes me realize what the illuminati truly has taken from humanity. The Revolutionary Spirit. I'm no different than anyone here. I don't know if I'm a leader but this is how I see things. We need only focus on one objective and then once achieved we can worry about how the world will be. We need to cease all government activity. We have been made dependent and fearful of our safety.This of course is not the truth and we are more than capable fo demonstrating our strength in strategy and numbers. It will take time and effort but if what we can all agree on is that what we want is the truth and the freedom to fullfill our potential then that is what we'll get. People will die.That is the way of nature, that is revolution. I'm not saying we should strike with malice but lets be realistic. Genocides have been comitted on behalf of this cause.
Can we really hope for peaceful awareness to remove our shackles. This is a complex enemy that can only be fought and defeated through a number of methods.As much as we like to think it a vast space the internet remains only a small part of the equation and one that has us outmatched to begin with.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 02:40 AM
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The revolution has already started.

Even now Americans are engaged in armed combat with government forces. You will not ever hear about it - as I type this, Good Patriotic Americans are under fire and engaged in a battle for their lives - most will die.

You might hear a government-approved version of their deaths on the TV set, but you won't ever be told of their heroism, not ever.

[edit on 22-11-2008 by TruthTellist]



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 04:25 AM
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Please let me draw everyone's attention to this already ongoing thread, created by our own Super Moderator Advisor. In it, he expresses his feelings on this, as well as talks about what he thinks needs done.

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posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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Yes here is a solution, Everyone willing to stand up and fight for our rights, and freedoms... We must march into Washington... Let our voices be heard, if they do Not listen we make them listen. Some one said it best, this country is like A field of very dry dead grass, sitting in a hot summer day, just waiting for that one little spark to set it off... Lets be that spark



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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I've posted similar thoughts on a couple of other threads. I invite anyone who is passionate about doing SOMETHING to U2U me. If you do, I'll suggest a practical plan of action.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 01:11 PM
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The revolution already happened in the 1770's. You guys missed it.
It was successful.

The revolution already happened again 1861. You guys missed it too.
It was not successful.






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