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Originally posted by Dontmakemebethe1
I supposed I am not understanding your post.
You are absolutely right when you imply my generalization is a logical fallacy. The problem again lies with those few "bad apples". They are outspoken, and as such, unintentionally act as the unofficial spokespeople for Christianity. It is therefore natural for my opinion on Christians as a whole to be based on these few "bad apples".
Originally posted by americandingbat
reply to post by prototism
And why not suppose that the christians who don't spread the message of intolerance and hate actually don't believe in intolerance and hate?
It just seems to me that to use a thread about why some Christians don't listed to atheists/agnostics when we tell them that our problem is not with Christ but with the intolerance we've been subjected to, to preach about how perverted the message of Christianity is, is perilously close to hypocrisy.
If you really just meant, the message that's been perverted by those Christians that spread hate, then I apologize for reacting the way I did. But I think it's worth our while to recognize that there are lots of Christian churches out there spreading a message of love and tolerance. While we may not agree with their specific beliefs about God, it could help shift the dichotomy from christians vs. non-believers to something a little less black-and-white.
Originally posted by prototism
Second, I have never directly stated that there are absolutely no "good" Christians. I'm sure many exist. I'm sure there are sects with agenda's as close to Jesus' teachings as you can get. So I suppose my comments were mainly directed at Baptists and other like minded sects.
Don't quote me, but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the "Christians" in this country are of this mindset. Of course, I could be wrong, and this assumption does't address the European Christians, whom I know nothing about. However, if I had to guess, I would say they were more "traditional", as a whole.
Lucid Lunacy
Christians see Christ, The Bible, and sometimes The Church. All as ONE unified entity.
In that, it is all inspired by God, and integral to each other.
Non-Christians don't see that unity.
So ultimately the main reason Christians see so much "hate towards Christ" is that
they are thinking like Christians when they evaluate the intent of the non-Christian
i.e not separating Christ from the Whole of their faith
defcon5
The groups who engage in this type of activity generally fall into three categories. The Jehovah Witnesses, Independent Churches (cults), and The Roman Catholic Church,
Have I sought you out intentionally to ram my ideology down your throat?
At the same time there is a very vocal Homosexual lobby that wish to bash everything
biblical because it will never be compatible with their lifestyle.
I say they are one in the same, with few exceptions,
and it’s the message that you truly hate.
what have I ever done personally to make you hate me?
Originally posted by toochaos4u
In many ways over 20 years or so I stopped trying to be polite and shoo them off and became hardened and sarcastic because being polite to many equals I want to hear more regardless of how much I try to get away.
Originally posted by LordBucket
It's protestants who threatened that I would burn forever in hell if I didn't accept Jesus.
Originally posted by defcon5
The only Church historically to ever kill masses of people was the Roman Catholic Church,