And the winner is: Obama/Biden (2008 ATS Presidential Poll)

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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Online votes like this are subject to fraud. One person can easily vote multiple times.


Um, no... each member had only one vote. I checked.




Not only that, but the votes can also be from non-American's because ATS is on the WORLD WIDE WEB, not just in America.


Right. This was a vote of ATS Members, not "Americans".




posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Ah democracy...where you don't have a right to happiness if you don't vote for the popular kids


Ya so, about that floride in my water...could you take that out and make into a pill form that is voluntary for people who want it? And also, could you make recycling a federal industry to benefit a lower tax rate? Plus could you use federal funds to buy out patents and make them publicly available? Hey, maybe you guys could reform the military and train of the lil boys to be assassins instead of rampaging and inefficient murdering clowns? Could you help to reform INTERPOL and actually share all your information? Maybe consider tearing out red tape that prevents our "allies" from being on the same page as we are? Could you maybe not trade with countries that are harming us? Could you prosecute every corporation and person in politics who does something (or did something in the last 50 years or so) that lead to wars or occupations where people "had to killed for the good of America"? Could you enforce our immigration policy? Will you chop out government offices that are redundant and move those workers into an industry that could be beneficial to the reduction of the deficit? Could you combine or chop out the volumous programs and laws that let our country have foreign parties make a profit? Could you reform and combine social service programs that "vital" into more compact and efficient service programs? Could require that all able bodied citizens be required to serve 6 months in federal service in territorial defense in our states and dependencies? Could you have engineers design less detrimental dams and better hydropower methods? Could you use all the sources of power available? Could you find the methods and enforce laws that make out right toxic and inorganic pollution actually regretable to those who choose to do so? --You know, some of my minor concerns.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by wayno
If I am not mistaken, this tally represents how the "world" would vote were they to have a chance to do so in this election.
ATS members and visitors are not just from the U.S. and everyone had a chance to cast their vote.
In that light, its not a surprising result at all!


Given that the rest of the world is completely bored stiff by this ridiculous tiresome campaign, I'd be surprised if many "foreigners" have voted at all.

Roll on 2009. Maybe ATS can then get back to normal.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:49 AM
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Darn, was rooting for Nader



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:54 AM
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reply to post by TheAgentNineteen
 



Hopefully we DO NOT....

As for Cynthia McKinney, who in the World voted for that Whoopi Goldberg on Crack? Lol.


How could any possibly want McCain to win?
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It's bad enough he hasn't be able to name one thing that he would do differently than Bush, but he's 72 years old. He has alot of experience, that's true but being as old as he is, he could croak within weeks. If that's the case, then would you really want to take the risk of a Palin presidency??? Not only is she so ridiculously stupid, she also is against things that should be non-issues. Shespends times on things that shouldn't be issues, and she's just a dimwit overall...



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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This is not good, it makes the ATS community nothing but a liberal majority site.

I hope that this ATS Presidential Poll doesn't tarnish the site reputation for none bias political topic debates.

Now conservatives can argue that this site is nothing but full of liberals on agendas.


Hummm



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Um, no... each member had only one vote. I checked.



How are you sure that 1 person doesn't have multiple member accounts on ATS? Did you check every single IP address of the votes? I know quite a few people on ATS that have multiple accounts.



Right. This was a vote of ATS Members, not "Americans".


Yes, I am aware of that, the comment was in response to another user who commented that it was "America after all.".


Originally posted by mr-lizard
I can't believe the socialist party scored so low....

But it is America after all.


[edit on 2-11-2008 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by ALLis0NE
 


I wouldn't go that far, but yes, the fact that the vote was open to all members and not just US citizens left the results in little doubt and that Obama would win easily.

I think its more useful this way, though. It gives a pretty good idea of the overall political leanings of the site.


i would vote for obama, but i own 2 guns, i want to keep our military strong, and i'm not for higher taxes. if you want to really know who a liberal is, read noam chomsky...the rest of us are slightly left of center and think obama/biden are more level headed and rational, that's all.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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This is so interesting =D.

ATS members are striving towards radical or independent parties.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:00 AM
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I was happily surprised to see this result. I really thought a majority of members here were republicans. Lets hope this result carries on on election day!

I wonder how Skpetic voted



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:02 AM
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All I know is, the elections are fixed. No matter who wins Obama or McCain, we will get the same results in the White House.

It's like running to be high school president. You tell all your classmates that you will extend lunch break, and reduce homework, but when you finally get elected, you have rules to follow which are set up and created by someone higher in command.

The world is being forced/brainwashed to only vote for major parties, this is beyond biased.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
I wouldn't take the vote serious at all.

Online votes like this are subject to fraud. One person can easily vote multiple times.


Thanks for pointing that out. That explains the 6000 votes for McCain then.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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Interesting results.

I think one difference between ATS and the real world is that had Ron Paul been on the ballot here, I bet he would have run away with the election. That's where the ATS bias is, not with the Republicans or the Democrats (in my opinion, and not to say there's an administrative bias that way, just that the 'popular opinion' on the boards seems to be that way).

I wonder if not having him on there was more of a help to Obama or to McCain.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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I wonder what percentage of Obama votes were from African Americans. Probably the majority of them....

I bet the rest voted for Obama because he speaks well.


If Americans really wanted a "revolution" or "change", they wouldn't vote for Obama or McCain. Obama and McCain are being controlled/funded/manipulated by big money corporations.

[edit on 2-11-2008 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
I can't believe the socialist party scored so low....

But it is America after all.


What are you talking about? The Republican and Democrats took most of the votes?

Seems to me the Socialist won by quite a margin.....



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:19 AM
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IM sad now.....

Way to ruin my day ATS'ers

Obama really????



Wow! Is all I have to say....

And maybe......HOLY CRAP!!!!!

But thats it...



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:22 AM
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On Sunday, Aaron Klein and John Batchelor interviewed Ahmed Yousef, chief political adviser to the Prime Minister of Hamas, on WABC radio. The interview produced a scoop which, for some reason, has not been widely publicized: Hamas has endorsed Barack Obama for President.

www.powerlineblog.com...

And who wants Obama?

I am ashamed of the voting turn out.....

This is ludicrous!!!!!

ARE YOU PEOPLE MAD?!!!




posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:23 AM
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I think that the vote taken here on ATS is a very good representation of the ATS 'population' in general. We all have had our say. I think that the voting on Tuesday will mirror the vote here on ATS, though the votes might be a bit closer with those results. I still feel that Barack Obama will win that as well. Though I am basically a Republican at heart, I will bw votin g for him myself come Tuesday.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:26 AM
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This is exactly how it will happen on the 4th. All of the third party and Ron Paul voters will vote for a third party candidate, but they won't all choose the same one.

Look at the results. Excluding the Socialists, third party candidates got 30% of the vote combined. But individually, none of them got over 11%.

Do you realize how much it would affect the election if all of that 30% voted for ONE third party candidate, as opposed to four of them? Why split up our votes and accomplish nothing when we could all pile on one candidate and accomplish something?

Maybe Nader isn't the greatest thing ever, but he's better than Obama and McCain.

As much as I'd like to write in Ron Paul, it doesn't help anything. If we all voted for one candidate instead of four, it would change things. A third party candidate getting 100% of our vote instead of 25% of it would change things.

There's a good reason all of us chose a third party, whether it be from the beginning or it be because Ron Paul dropped out of the race. No matter what your individual reason, what motivated you was the corruption of the status quo. That alone makes any third party candidate better than what we've got.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:32 AM
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Well im from the uk and i only voted for votings sake. Also i only voted for Obama because he's black. Positive descrimination thats what its all about in the uk.

In all honesty i dont take much interest in politics and when it comes to voting time over here i'll probably vote for the green party. I dont trust any politicians and think there all as bad as each other.





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