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reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 01:54 AM by ilaruum
reply to post by cormac mac airt



Hey, everyone. Not considering myself any good in genetics, but I did some research and found some info about genetic link between europeans and native indians that AFAIK wasn't adressed in this thread yet. Sorry, if I missed it.

It is based on the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Native indians have 5 basic haplogroups - A, B, C, D and X. The last one is prety rare (4 % in total indian populiation, but up to 25% in North-east ones) This haplogroup was found also in western Europeans and nowhere in Asia, except for one reagion - Altai (OFF TOPIC, sorry - by the way, these people are worth exploring - there is everything you want - from yeti to highly advanced civilisations living below the mountains, ancient civilisations and the fact that hunes (and many before them) originated from there )

Anyways, the most interesting thing is that haplogroup X was/is not shared in recent times - significant differences show, that common ancestors lived loong time ago.
also, the ancient remains of basque people show that up to 25% of them have haplogroup X.

en.wikipedia.org...(mtDNA)

www.huttoncommentaries.com...

Scroll down to about the middle of the page. We are not really adressing the question of Atlantis here. Yet


reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 02:33 PM by Hanslune
reply to post by Skyfloating



Howdy Sky

But wouldn't it be better to actually have compelling evidence in support of that instead of making an empty comment? I took a look at the evidence provided by Warrenb. If this depth of this evidence is to be proof of something one could make the theory that the cagots were Atlanteans.

We look forward to the real evidence that is to come...hopefully


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 09:48 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck





Like "evidence" is a pre-step to proof, would you know of any pre-step to evidence


Suggestive as noted above , possible or evocative, redolent, reminiscent, indicative. There are Greek and Latin terms that also have these meanings . Innuo, adjicio.....might check for Ancient Greek terms also.


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 10:42 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by Skyfloating



I could also suggest; Clue, inkling, suspicion, trace, Sign, hint, allusion, tip-off, intimation. There is also a good word in Japanese, unagasu, うながす, which has the meaning you want.


reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 01:12 AM by haika
reply to post by menjo2000



Cuba is America....for the REST OF THE WORLD America is comprised of North, Central and South America, and the Caribbean.

So, yeah, Columbus came to America.


reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 01:22 AM by Hanslune
Well...yeah


Map




The four voyages of Columbus, known to native Americans, "as that Italian guy".

[edit on 8/2/09 by Hanslune]


reply posted on 26-2-2011 @ 03:19 PM by woadpaintedfinto
A very interesting thread indeed, now lets look at some facts that would support such a theory.
1. There is an ancient manuscript telling The story of an Irish monk called St.Brendan, who sailed a curragh, a type of keel less hide covered boat to America, via Iceland and Greenland.
Curraghs, all be it smaller ones, are still used by traditional inshore fishermen all along the west coast of Ireland.
2.In the 1970's the explorer Tim Severn, sailed a scaled up version of one of these boats made to the same spec as the one in the manuscript along the same route to prove this legend possible.
3. We know from archaeological evedence and the vinland sagas that the norsemen sailed to America,
The norse were at this time trading with & raiding in Ireland, Scotland, The Western Isles and The Isle of Man, All Gaelic speaking regions. they frequently bought slaves from these reigons and sometimes married slave women, So in theory bilingualism would have been common among the norse.
Now if we go back even further back, into the mists of pre history we know through genetics and archaeology, that people from the Basque country and the Iberian peninsula were trading with and settling on ireland's west and south coast. and the south and west coast of britain. So why couldn't they have gone further north and west?
If we look back to ice age times, we could surmise that hunters traveled along the coast of northwest Europe and out onto atlantic sea ice to hunt for seals, as the Inuit do today.
What would have been to stop them, over the course of a few summers, from making their way along the ice floes as far as the north east coast of North America. Where they setteled in virgin territory and were eventually absorbed buy native North American peoples who migrated eastwards in a simillar fashion. There are those who would say, "there is no archaeological evidence for this." Just because it hasn't been found doesen't mean it isn't there.
From a linguistic point of view this thoery also works because origional native place names tend to remain even after colonisation as well as there being the transfer of some words from the colonised peoples language to that of the coloniser. We only have to look at the English language to see this in action even today.
I would say this to those who would seek to rubbish the latter part of my thoery.
Bear in mind that these people were tough strong individuals, in tune with nature and at one with their environment, and although some would call them primative. They were as intelligent, curious, resourceful and tenacious as we are today.


reply posted on 26-2-2011 @ 06:03 PM by Versa
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Versa
Interesting thread S&F

I haven't had time yet to read all the responses but I think I'm right in saying that the Ancient Celtic language also bears similarities to Sanskrit.

Could you connect those dots with a citation, please?



source

'The very name Druid is composed of two Celtic word roots which have parallels in Sanskrit. Indeed, the root vid for knowledge, which also emerges in the Sanskrit word Veda, demonstrates the similarity. The Celtic root dru which means "immersion" also appears in Sanskrit. So a Druid was one 'immersed in knowledge.'


I will try to connect more dots tomorrow when I am less inebriated
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