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Originally posted by Kailasa
Originally posted by who's watching who
reply to post by Kailasa
Now how about naming me 3 civilized countries in which marriage is legal at 13?
we were talking about sex not marriage.
Argentina ; consent starts at 13
Cyprus : consent starts at 13
Japan : consent starts at 13
Mexico : consent start at 12
Spain : consent start at 12
USA : travelling citizens starts at 12
I specify "civilized" because you are suggesting our moral beliefs should be influenced by what goes on in the rest of the world.
I'm not suggesting this at all, what I'm trying to say is that the subject i relative to the country the person lives in. I would consider the above countries to be civilised, but I don't agree that someone of 12/13 has the mental capacity to think through the consequences of having sex, but I'm also not conceited enough to think that I should be telling another country what their laws should be.
In the case we are talking about here I believe that even if the young girl did give consent the guy should still be jailed, because as he was the girls mother partner he was in a position of authourity over her, and having sex with her whatever the age of consent, this is an abuse of power.
Originally posted by jakyll
The age of consent was different back then,thats why.
If this was so then there would be no statutory rape laws.The reason their are is because teenagers under the age of 16 are minors and therefore can not have legally given consent.
Rape is rape is rape.
Saying that a child (or woman) was a slut is nothing but a BS excuse.
Being a slut generally means you weren't raped but that you consented.
Originally posted by TheColdDragon
reply to post by asmeone2
And I agree, I think that Statutory laws are more often abusive than they are helpful. I think people who make a decision to have sex should be responsible and admit to their choice, and I think that parents should stay out of it if it is obvious that their daughter or son had sex of their own volition.
But then I also think Coercing a minor into admitting to reluctance is just as bad as coercing a minor into having sex, because it is dishonest and it causes suffering to someone who doesn't necessarily deserve it.
I am certain there are cases where the parents use their parental authority and influence to convince the minor that they were victimized.
Originally posted by asmeone2
And, I'm happy to say that I do not know any pedophiles, but I suspect that for many of them, the appeal is not so much the physical sensation but the sense of control they get from manipulating a child and taking his innocence.