In case anyone is interested, which if you're posting on this thread, you clearly are, I have found some sources that specifically relate if not
mimic exactly what the the OP Hidden_Hand has been saying.
Source 1: www2.hawaii.edu...
Here are some quotes from this source that directly relate, if not are the exact same as the OP's statements
" The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation. "
"Infinity became aware. This was the next step."
"Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your
ears being "Logos" or "Love." The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create
understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity."
"The second density strives towards the third density which is the density of self-consciousness or self-awareness. The striving takes place through
the higher second-density forms who are invested by third density beings with an identity to the extent that they become self-aware mind/body
complexes, thus becoming mind/body/spirit complexes and entering third density, the first density of consciousness of spirit."
"The sphere upon which you dwell is third density in its beingness of mind/body/spirit complexes. It is now in a space/time continuum, fourth
density. This is causing a somewhat difficult harvest. "
"Thus, the entry into the vibration of love, sometimes called by your people the vibration of understanding, is not effective with your present
societal complex. Thus, the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle."
And it continues onto many more pages and 'excerpts' as they are referred to on that page.
I am willing to believe that the information presented by Hidden_Hand, has been plagiarized off of the site, unless of course Hidden_Hand is the
actual author of that site. Nonetheless, the comparison is remarkable in that the same core concept, idea, language, and sentences are used. Even some
of the lines are the exact same ones that are used by Hidden_Hand.
I am not saying that I do not believe the OP and his claims, because I am actually tinkering on the edge of fully believing 'his' concepts and the
overall idea behind it.
However, there is blatant plagiarism occurring.
In my opinion the OP is utilizing the same concept now, which was originally spoken of back in 1981 (as the above mentioned source quotes: "For this
first excerpt I have included the session in it's entirety, in order to provide a complete example of a session's opening, questioning process and
closing. Other excerpts will include volume numbers, and dates of sessions excerpted from, and will be separated by asterisks or an '8' symbol, used
by this site's author throughout as a symbol of the octaves and of infinity, as in the lemniscate, the trigonometry figure and commonly used symbol
for infinity. All excerpted material used by permission of L/L Research.] Session #13 January 29, 1981")
Therefore it seems that L/L Research is the original author/s of this material and idea, as dated back in 1981 [if not earlier].
Sidenote: Here is the definition of plagiarism
–noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own
2. something used and represented in this manner.
Source of definition: dictionary.reference.com...
So clearly unless Hidden_Hand has the authorization and permission of L/L Research whom appears to be the creator of these thoughts, he is
L/L Research (llresearch.org...
) which for your information, they have it all copyrighted!
Above Top Secret's terms and conditions relating to copyrighted material and plagiarism is as follows: "1c.) Intellectual Property: You will not
post any copyrighted material, material belonging to another person, material previously posted by you on another website nor link to any copyrighted
material without providing proper attribution, as defined by The Owners, to its original source."
So clearly this thread by Hidden_Hand is against T&C by 1. posting copyrighted material, 2. posting material belonging to another person(?), 3.
posting material without providing proper attribution as defined by the owners to its original source.
It is my belief that this is the original source for all the information, concepts, and thoughts that Hidden_Hand has posted:
Again this is not to say that the information he provided is in any way inaccurate, its just to say that this information has been copyrighted already
and is in direct violation of the T&C of ATS.
edit: for spelling errors and re-wording and grammar corrections
[edit on 24/10/2008 by agent violet]