The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

reply to post by RolandBrichter


They would be making a terrible mistake to try and turn this around so soon. A correction is needed to bring in some MUCH needed stability to this dog and pony circus!
Frankly, as history has shown us in the past "many times" stepping in at the first sign has caused more harm than good. It is time these college grad's break out those history reports and look up a few things.
If you make a mistake and learn a lesson from it; well it really isn't a mistake now is it? BUT if you make a mistake and keep making it well then you are just an idiot bound to live in a cyclical nature of failure!

reply to post by RolandBrichter


you just KNOW that they announced that TALF extension before the opening bell when the futures were down 2.5%

But.... TALF was planned to run through December

Who are they kidding with the timing of this announcement??

If thinks are really recovering why extend?

reply to post by redhatty
Think anyone will figure that out?

If they remove the "nozzle" now, the "engine" will sputter and die...

...And raising interest rates??? Just for Fed Reserve Funds...

Nope...ain't not gonna happen...Parker Bro's has bought more pretty paper and ink taking "Monopoly" to the next level... :shk:

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Thieves

Some people think
It is possible to steal
From their own dreams


They are masters of timing, that's why they lose sense of time

Dow 9,137.30 -178.96 -1.92%

funny that yesterday FOX news "messes up" when they posted that the closed markets had dropped -371.68 points or something.

If we see the market down around -360 or so, then we have 100% proof positive the game is rigged.

Here's the screencap from Sunday


are they expecting something? Do they have foreknowledge?

reply to post by Hx3_1963


You could have the best nozzle in the world, but when you are pouring water into the gas tank it's eventually going to hydro-lock.

No gas no go.

So do you think this is the end of the "rally"?

reply to post by Hx3_1963


They will NEVER remove the nozzle, they have NO EXIT STRATEGY

And many are starting to see that

@ Hasto: Probably not the total end...

They will call this a well needed correction...have to drag the side-liners back in with a chance to buy on the dips, before it skids to a stop in a few weeks... :shk:

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reply to post by warrenb

are they expecting something? Do they have foreknowledge?

There is a thread here on ATS about time discrepancies:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, remember the "timing" in original TV reports on 9/11???

Orwellian real time faking is an ongoing affair...



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Dang...poor Lowes taking a ~10% fist to da chin... :shk:

$20.80

Change
-2.13 -9.33%

www.marketwatch.com...

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NY Fed: Purchased $7.01B in $300B outright coupons purchase; Dealers submitted $15.94B for consideration (bid to cover 2.27)
Heaviest purchase was $4.56B in the 06/30/14 maturity

FTSE 100 4,632.30 10:54AM ET Down 81.67 (1.73%)
CAC 40 3,416.49 11:10AM ET Down 78.78 (2.25%)
DAX 5,198.43 10:55AM ET Down 110.68 (2.08%)
Madrid General 1,105.25 10:55AM ET Down 32.41 (2.85%)

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reply to post by redhatty


Exactly !!!!! the fed never planned for the If anything doesn't works, they were very much confident that whatever they were doing was going to work.

But like many have said before, it is a global economy after all our nation brought the entire world to a stand still and its going to take a lot more to bring it back into motion.

Mean while many countries will be learning from this and they will start to make sure that they are no so Dependant on the Americans economical tantrums.



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S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 980.57 11:17am ET Down 23.52 (2.34%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 979.41 11:20am ET Down 24.68 (2.46%)

We're closing in on a 975 support level here...thought I heard 967 was the break down point?

Keep yer shorts dry on the clothes line!

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Originally posted by xoxo stacie
reply to post by RolandBrichter

 

They would be making a terrible mistake to try and turn this around so soon. A correction is needed to bring in some MUCH needed stability to this dog and pony circus!

I agree with you in principle. BUT,

"They" have been desperately trying to turn this around since last fall, and they won't stop until they can save the current paradigm, or it is utterly destroyed.

Unfortunately, more and more objective evidence is piling up to indicate the high probability of the latter....at this point, any real stability can only come out of the ashes of the current economic system....Happy Monday!

Originally posted by redhatty
reply to post by Hx3_1963

 

They will NEVER remove the nozzle, they have NO EXIT STRATEGY

And many are starting to see that

They can't...it's either continue with this lunacy or the system dies in it's current form...they have no choice at this point...the money morons are fighting for their very existence...it will be in vain

Well if it is any comfort to know, that Chicago is facing huge budget deficits and services are being cut and working furlough days.

The idiot that was just on the news was saying how Mayor Daley was a "leader" in furlough days. :shk:

Now Chicago is in the White House. Isn't that just wonderful to know. I agree with the people that they are doing whatever they possibly can to try to keep the economy afloat but it is in vain.

I haven't seen any legitimate evidence that anything is turning around.

Somebody that mirror the sentiments of many of us here in this thread.

Markets Will 'Abruptly' Drop 25-50%: Strategist

Markets will drop 25 to 50 percent and it will happen abruptly, Deighan told CNBC.

“There’s no basic foundation for the run-up we’ve had, been far too rapid. It continues to run up on what’s normally considered bad news,” he said.

Well He also said that Wall street have been shoving "things" down main street for since the crisis began.

Now our own government is also shoving "things" down main street also.

No only is the American people scare but getting very angry.

“None of this stuff is positive, and Americans are very angry in addition to being scared—a very dangerous combination,” he said.

In the meantime, Stein said he doesn’t expect a sharp drop in the markets, and predicts stocks will trade at the current levels for at least several months.

“I actually think we’re going nowhere,” said Stein. “These are going to be the levels that we trade at 5 percent around here for several months, if not for the rest of the year."

Stein said the economy is experiencing two types of recessions: the traditional inventory and unemployment recession, and another based on the credit crisis.

I thing I am going to agree with him.

www.cnbc.com...

Also finally somebody dares to say the world Depression even when is only a semi

www.cnbc.com...

reply to post by Hx3_1963

We're closing in on a 975 support level here...thought I heard 967 was the break down point?

There is support for the S&P between 970 and 980 that was put in the last time the US dollar was trading near the top of the trading range. Redhatty said there might be a few days of bottoming action before the next rally attempt this doesn't feel like a major crash though.

Well...I see Mr Stander finally got back from Mr Goldmans ATM... ...took him long enough...

Let's see how much he took out to support this up move now...

Dow Jones Industrial Average 9,165.04 11:59am ET Down 151.22 (1.62%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 984.22 11:59am ET Down 19.87 (1.98%)
NASDAQ Composite 1,938.67 11:59am ET Down 46.85 (2.36%)

Huh...what happened to Wynn??? ~5% shave and hair cut?

Wasn't it the Cat's Meow last week?

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