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Corporate Credit Slumps Most Since March on Concern for Economy
www.bloomberg.com...

All Ordinaries 4,373.60 8:23PM ET Down 24.50 (0.56%)
Nikkei 225 10,277.09 8:23PM ET Up 8.48 (0.08%)
NZSE 50 3,058.93 8:21PM ET Down 27.16 (0.88%)
Seoul Composite 1,548.83 8:23PM ET Up 1.77 (0.11%)

9109.34 9136.0 26.66
977.93 980.1 2.17

Originally posted by RolandBrichter

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
I feel the next short squeeze coming on........................Just one more or two more down days and then Ben and Goldman can buy more equities and scare the shorts into rallying the indices. How many times has this happened in the past 5 months already?

Lol...poor bastards have been torched repeatedly... it's hard to win against the House... especially one with its own printing press

Most of the guys that I know are waiting to see what happens in the next couple of sessions, lots of sweaty trigger fingers out there...

Lets see if the first sequence holds..

Coincidentally (i think at least) our first "leg" down was the first sequence. It though coincided with a support of about a week and a half ago..

You be the judge..

Me thinks we go back up... how many bears did you see come out of the woodwork today? lol.. Perhaps a day of "lingering" tomorrow with the real action coming later in the week.


www.sierrachart.com...

reply to post by fromunclexcommunicate


the 30 minute chart with the price sequences looks pretty good so far..

If I remember right my last target was 975 for SP500 (if you go back about 30 pages).. I dont think it made it that low but it was close, we might see it tomorrow.. I have my chart in the above post

UPDATE 4-Guaranty bid deadline Tuesday, Corus Sept 3-sources
www.reuters.com...

All Ordinaries 4,373.80 8:55PM ET Down 24.30 (0.55%)
Nikkei 225 10,284.18 8:55PM ET Up 15.57 (0.15%)
NZSE 50 3,058.16 8:55PM ET Down 27.93 (0.90%)
Straits Times 2,544.57 9:01PM ET Down 1.41 (0.06%)
Seoul Composite 1,553.96 8:56PM ET Up 6.90 (0.45%)

9109.34 9137.0 27.66
977.93 980.4 2.47

Gold $936.97

Oil $67.06

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
reply to post by fromunclexcommunicate

 

the 30 minute chart with the price sequences looks pretty good so far..

If I remember right my last target was 975 for SP500 (if you go back about 30 pages).. I dont think it made it that low but it was close, we might see it tomorrow.. I have my chart in the above post

You think the S&P could go down to 975 and then head back up?

reply to post by RetinoidReceptor


I thought that support would hold based on 'x" many days ago information (whenever I posted that, yes)

Right now in the futures we are back to the 980 3/4 right now so that would equal about a 982 SP 500 CASH OPEN if this theoretically held right now..

Why did we go down today anyways?.. Because of Eastern countries?.. Notice it was ALL DONE IN THE MORNING TOO = big money futures players making all the dough today..

I think the bears just got their fill... I still do like the Sp 500 consolidating somewhat lower though because the 50 EMA crossed and that is a pretty normal thing to happen (that little bounce down)

reply to post by RetinoidReceptor


Here is a daily chart

I would like to see this support hold 100%

I think this would signify that we are indeed very bullish

The volatility jumped very high today that means decent moves BOTH WAYS (just not one, which most people think is down of course)

If we "inside bar" today, meaning gain it all back tomorrow on the chart look for one of those 12% days where volatility goes up again and the market goes up as well..

I think this week will be interesting at least..


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[edit on 17-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]


LONG TERM SCALE WITH 20 50 200 EMA

(captions on chart)

[edit on 17-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]

Originally posted by GreenBicMan


LONG TERM SCALE WITH 20 50 200 EMA

(captions on chart)

[edit on 17-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]

Wait so we closed below the 200ema today/ That is bearish is it not?

reply to post by RetinoidReceptor


20 EMA IN RED

50 EMA IN BLUE

200 EMA IN YELLOW

I usually try to use the same colors (200 ema sometimes in green bc that is default)

EDIT** i think you just misread the chart there.. we are sitting on the 20 EMA right now.. im sure you already figured that out though

[edit on 17-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
reply to post by RetinoidReceptor

 

20 EMA IN RED

50 EMA IN BLUE

200 EMA IN YELLOW

I usually try to use the same colors (200 ema sometimes in green bc that is default)

Maybe that means in the short term the S&P will go down a little bit since the 20EMA is shorter term and that support isn't holding.

reply to post by RetinoidReceptor


well i wouldnt say it isnt holding.. it was a pretty good test and nothing will stop on a dime like on the # you know?

it really depends of course on the next few days.. I would like to see it hold tomorrow and then on wednesday..

if it holds tomorrow and we have a "doji" type formation, then wednesday will be very interesting..

I would do this right now

DO NOT TRY TO PREDICT, JUST REACT

as far as this week goes, just my opinion as it really could move both ways

but if we really break the 20 EMA tomorrow "for realz" you can bet the bank on us going straight for the 50 EMA (in blue)

[edit on 17-8-2009 by GreenBicMan]

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by stander

 

Fictitious? I s'pose.

Tell that to Mr Average Joe from anywhere in America that last 50% of his retirement the first time around, got duped by the Media into buying into it again, and is now set up to loose 10-40% of what he just put in.

You can do it Standar, be the spokes man to them.

Tell him his money was fictitious and he shouldn't worry about it.

I always forget about the 401k don't-you-ever-worry-'bout-nothing plan. The reason is that this strategy is so foreign to me that my head blocks its existence. There was nothing wrong with the concept before the time Mr. Goldman was born.

The market analysts always FEEL about stock being oversold, undersold, beneathsold, abovesold . . . But they don't say anything only after Mr. Goldman -- who never says anything, but actually does things -- show the analysts that is okay to comment on his handiwork.

How did the dotcom bubble burst?
The way it was inflated. Midway through the blowing, it was obvious that the dotcomers couldn't bring so much ad money in. But someone kept blowing just to the point a tad bellow ridiculous. And then, that someone picked the needle to collapse the fictitious numbers. Let's call that guy Mr. Profit Maximizer. You can do something like that easy with new industries that no one is overly familiar with, but the repetition is harder to do with the senior industries the Dow is made of. About a month ago, I wrote a post about building a max point. Welcome to The Top . . .

I wonder about how the NIKKEI will react to the guilty verdict issued by the US markets. But I don't think that the Japanese traders takes it as an excuse supreme to reach much deeper into their eye-slanted piggy bank.


[edit on 8/17/2009 by stander]

...Nikkei to get a slap upon Lunch return...

Shanghai Composite 2,856.46 10:59PM ET Down 14.17 (0.49%)
Shanghai Composite 2,831.26 11:20PM ET Down 39.37 (1.37%)

Hang Seng 20,061.99 10:59PM ET Down 75.66 (0.38%)
Hang Seng 19,937.13 11:13PM ET Down 200.52 (1.00%)

Nikkei 225 10,307.41 10:30PM ET Up 38.80 (0.38%)

Taiwan Weighted 6,858.24 10:55PM ET Down 73.56 (1.06%)
Taiwan Weighted 6,812.42 11:07PM ET Down 119.38 (1.72%)

Jakarta Composite 2,312.97 11:15PM ET Down 73.90 (3.10%)
Jakarta Composite 2,300.38 11:24PM ET Down 86.49 (3.62%)

DJIA FV Futures 9109.34 9120.0 10.66

S&P FV Futures 977.93 978.0 0.07

Oil $66.96

[edit on 8/17/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Originally posted by Hx3_1963

...Nikkei to get a slap upon Lunch return...

Nikkei 225 10,307.41 10:30PM ET Up 38.80 (0.38%)

I don't think so. The profit taking may not last another day. Just keep an eye on it. That's too bad, coz I'd like to see the price of oil trickle. But what can you do. Things have been decided and so it's a matter of keeping up with the schedule.

BTW, the MSM revealed the reason why Bernanke has been optimistic, almost exuberant about the future of the US economy. It's an eye opener -- incredible stuff:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Update: NIKKEI is wearing light green, and the stock market crash or major depreciation of the stock value idea is heading for a bookstore shelf marked "fiction."

There was a feature in yesterday's downer worth mentioning. The session opened as always with a high volume. As usual, the volume was slowly decreasing as the traders were switching to the autopilot. But then, at 9:57, there was one-minute volume that was much taller then its neighbors:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f0a0b3209a36.jpg[/atsimg]

The action started at 9:56 and was heading up, as the corresponding point 9,136 shows. It turned out that this peculiar action set the Dow within 1 point of the close for the day.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c35d44650d5e.jpg[/atsimg]

High volume sets the course of trading, and this time, a slight detail concerning the unexpected single high volume within just one minute predicted the end of the session. If the occasion arises again tomorrow, I'll point it out. It could be due to a chance, but there could be a reason hovering above it as well. We test it tomorrow, coz I guess the curve will keep going horizontally most of the session. I don't think that there will be much of morning selling done, though, coz all the guys made the dough yesterday and sailed to the French Riviera to have an affair with 14-year-old school girls -- an old custom that Mr. Goldman frowns upon. He goes usually to the church to discuss various matters, such as interior decorating, with God. They are pals.

[edit on 8/18/2009 by stander]

So they did a correction.

But they didn't tell anyone

Giving up their gains from earlier it appears...

Target Profit Falls but Beats Wall Street View
www.cnbc.com...

Housing Starts, Producer Prices Both Post Drops in July
www.cnbc.com...

New U.S. housing starts and permits unexpectedly fell in July, pulled down by steeper declines in multifamily units while the producer price index also fell.

FTSE 100 4,658.79 9:06AM ET Up 13.78 (0.30%)

CAC 40 3,422.17 9:21AM ET Up 2.48 (0.07%)
DAX 5,210.11 9:06AM ET Up 8.50 (0.16%)

Gold $935.47

Oil $66.38

[edit on 8/18/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Even with the so call "rally" and "good news" of "better than expected" the truth is that the back to school sales sucks.

But hey we got green shoots on the Dow today at opening or perhaps is fake grass rug on top of the brown weeds.

reply to post by marg6043

Retailers See Back-to-School Sales Slowing
www.nytimes.com...

Halfway through the back-to-school shopping season, retail professionals are predicting the worst performance for stores in more than a decade, yet another sign that consumers are clinging to every dollar.

Fears about the job market have resulted in sluggish customer traffic over the last few weeks, spurring the gloomy sales projections. Parents who do shop are aggressively trading down, informing status-conscious teenagers that notebooks from the dollar store or shirts from Costco will have to do this year.

Stock analysts at Citigroup are predicting a decline in back-to-school sales for the first time since they began tracking the figures in 1995. They estimate August and September sales at stores open for at least a year — known as same-store sales — will fall 3 to 4 percent, compared with an increase of nearly 1 percent in the same period last year.

You got that right!

I believe it's called Astro-Turf...as in "Out of this World" expectations... :shk:

reply to post by Hx3_1963


You are so funny but hey is always green on the fake sea of grass and never needs to be trimmed.