I honestly had no idea that it was this bad, page 16

reply to post by ThatsJustWeird

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thats an interesting statement. I suppose it depends what you mean by "ahead" and if your comparing the usa to the 3rd world/developing countries or other industrialized nations.

Sweden's looking mighty fine, check out their social programs, poverty levels, health care, life expectancy, infant mortality rates, college education rates, women and civil rights stances, maternity programs... etc. All of the above are the accepted designators of a socially advanced nation.

By the way, the U.S. ranks last or near last in almost every one of those categories in comparison to every other modern, industrialized nation.




[edit on 14-10-2008 by yeti101]

Originally posted by observer
reply to post by jam321

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Palin and Bush are willfully and proudly ignorant. Their incuriousness is not only sad it is unconscionable in a national candidate. The derision they receive is brought upon themselves. Ignorance is not a race or ethnicity.

If the Republican nominee were black (which, let's face it until there is a significant reformation in the party will likely never happen) I do not think the Dems would be making racist comments. That is one of the reasons the Republicans hate the Democrats, openness!

Let us not forget the

"HUMAN CONDITION"

!!!!

Many Democrats are just as racially bigoted as many Republicans. My Dear Ol' Daddy, a dyed in the wool Democrat hates everyone who isn't sparkle white. And he doesn't bother to use more socially acceptable terms when he calls 'em as he sees 'em. And it's even more interesting when you know that deep under his pearly white exterior, he is, by blood, about 1/2 Cherokee Indian.

Interestingly, my Father and I are so divergent, both politically, and socially, that he doesn't speak to me, and hasn't for about twenty years.

Further interest, for me, is a good friend of mine who is white, from the heart of Tennessee, a dyed in the wool bigot, and has a black mistress.

No... There is more than enough blame to go around on the racial ignorance issue. There is more than enough blame to go around on the whole issue of ignorance.

We are, I feel, living in hard times. There's no relief in sight, and people are simply angry with no place to let it out.

Being an old guy, I recall the last time we had such an extreme and open divergence of Liberals and Conservatives... They called it Camelot. He was a wealthy North-Eastern born Democrat/war hero. He and his brother, Jack and Bobby, are both now hallowed memories to some of us who thought that the world was beginning to see the light.

Me? Well, I'm a dyed in the wool conservative, who is voting for a number of liberal Democrats, who I feel and believe are the better of the available candidates. I've allowed two of them to use my name in political mailings as a Republican who's voting for them. I'm not real excited with the prospects of who gets the Presidential ticket, from either side, this time. But... You go with what you got, and I'm still considering who to drop my vote for.

To Observer

you quote

I do not think the Dems would be making racist comments.

check it out

AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.

news.yahoo.com...


Better think again. It is a two way street and always has been.

reply to post by jam321

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JAAAAAM....

Those were loaded questions. I read the questions.....they went something like:

#1. Do you think black people are:

A) stupid.
B) ugly.
C) responsible for their own problems.

These polls are meant to get a result alright....the one they want to hear.

reply to post by Grafilthy

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Maybe they were loaded but they asked indepents, democrats and Republicans alike. At least they were fair in asking everyone the same question.

Just shows that we still got a way to go. Just think of the immigration issue and all the racial tones you hear there. There is a lot of hatred by all and no matter who you are for, it is really sad that we still stoop to that level as a nation.

reply to post by jam321

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Just shows that we still got a way to go. Just think of the immigration issue and all the racial tones you hear there. There is a lot of hatred by all and no matter who you are for, it is really sad that we still stoop to that level as a nation.

While you are conservative.....I find you to be the most sane amongst them(that's a compliment)!! The immigration issue is a lose-lose issue. It would be a good place to start on a bi-partisan resurgence. It's one issue that hits close to home for us all.

I lean to the left and want to see something done without the squabbling.

Watch this video. I swear people are getting stupider and more gullible the farther we get into the future...
Video

Originally posted by Karlhungis

YouTube Link

This video made me sick to my stomach. The amount of ignorance and hatred at this "rally" seemed more like a Klan convention than a political rally. It really is a miracle that Obama is still alive. I can't imagine what is going to happen after the election is over.

What will happen? The same thing that happened 4 or 8 years ago when idiots said things like that with the exception being it will come from idiots on the right instead of idiots on the left./ I still see Alec Baldwin and Susan Sarandon around - they haven't moved.

If you believe these things, I have some prime land in Okefenokee, Florida I'd like you to buy.

reply to post by Grafilthy

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appreciate the compliment Graf. Kudos to you too.

Like i have said time and time again may the best one win.

Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by ThatsJustWeird

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thats an interesting statement. I suppose it depends what you mean by "ahead" and if your comparing the usa to the 3rd world/developing countries or other industrialized nations.

Sweden's looking mighty fine, check out their social programs, poverty levels, health care, life expectancy, infant mortality rates, college education rates, women and civil rights stances, maternity programs... etc. All of the above are the accepted designators of a socially advanced nation.

By the way, the U.S. ranks last or near last in almost every one of those categories in comparison to every other modern, industrialized nation.

I'm talking about in terms of race relations....
And YES I am CERTAINLY including other industrialized nations.

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