Chavez says crisis-hit U.S. needs new constitution, page 1
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Topic started on 28-9-2008 @ 09:25 AM by cbass

Chavez says crisis-hit U.S. needs new constitution


sg.news.yahoo.com
Venezuela's leftist President Hugo Chavez said on Saturday it was the capitalist system that had caused the financial crisis in the United States and the country should come up with a new constitution.

"It was capitalism that caused the ruin" in the United States, said Chavez,
"Let the U.S. empire end and let a great nation and great republic rise from the ruin ... It's time to shout 'Liberty!' again in the United States," Chavez said, calling for a new government to be free of the "dictat
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:55 AM by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by cbass



I don't agree with him in the slightest. Our constitution is one of the finest works of men in the name of one's rights that has ever been drafted. They take into account our personal protection, taxing our labors, fair checks and balances, and protection in regards to trial rights.

The only downside of our constitution is that these people are allowed to weasel their way in and compromise the rights for every single one of us. There's usually a money trail leading to central banks, special interests, or greedy politics.

If anything, we don't need a new draft. We just need to abide by the one we have, both citizens and government. We also need to veto the money laundering amendment "ratification."





[edit on 28-9-2008 by DeadFlagBlues]


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:55 AM by cbass
reply to post by jtma508



I was referring to the fact that capitalism has brought down our once great country, not necessarily that we should adopt a new constitution. I believe the one we have would work just fine if we would follow it.
Like I said, Chavez hits the nail on the head "sometimes".
Sorrry for the confusion.


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:58 AM by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by cbass



It has nothing to do with capitalism. I used to think the same way, but studying our economy the past few years (after watching "From Freedom to Fascism") I have gained a new found respect for raw capitalism.

What you're seeing in this bubble collapse is closer to socialism or communism than it is any form of capitalism. If this was true capitalism, we'd watch these banks fall all over themselves. Also, true capitalism without the Federal Reserve and the government safety net, these banks wouldn't have been in the same position they are now to wreak this kind of havoc.


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:08 AM by cbass
reply to post by ohioriver



The problem is America is not "fixing her own".
America is collapsing and most people on the outside can see why.
But I suppose I would rather live in the fairytale dreamland that most Americans live in when I think about it. I suppose we'll be just fine and the government will figure this whole mess out.


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:15 AM by nh_ee
I think that that is what Chavez is alluding to. That the Constitution hasn't been adhered to and the loopholes used to allow that to occur within our government need to be corrected.

This Financial crisis DOES have everything to do with the Constitution. The entire problem has been caused by excessive debt. Debt caused by the Govt borrowing excessive amounts of money from a privately owned Bank called the Federal Reserve bank.
The Constitution gave the Congress the Right to Coin Money. Which meant creating money from the assets belonging to the Treasury and not out of thin air as the FED does and lending it to the Govt.

This creating money out of thin air has allowed Government spending to get out of control because there is no conceivable limit as to how much money the Govt. can borrow from the FED. The FED merely creates more debt. And sells it to foreign governments such as the Chinese and Japanese.

Now that the foreign government has seen what type of jam we're in they've lost confidence in our debt and our ability to repay and refuse to purchase it. Now there is no more funding coming in to fund our debt which is what the REAL crisis is all about.

Hugo Chavez has been touted as a cook, lunatic because he won't take it up the A** by the US Oil Cartel and allow these criminals to profit off of his nation's oil.
He was also the only nation that took initiative to donate heating oil to the elderly trying to exist on Social Security here in the US last winter when our own Government did nothing but raise prices.
These are people who defended our nation in WWII I might add and are now being kicked to the curb because their fixed income is being eaten up by inflation.
Another product of our Federal Reserve monopoly money currency system.


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:55 AM by cbass
reply to post by yellowcard



So much for itelligent debate. "Put a bullet through his head" "you're an idiot" .......If only there were a way to split America down the middle and let the ones who call people names for not agreeing with them/ people who suggest blowing peoples heads off for speaking their minds, live on there half and the rest of us could live in PEACE!! I measn are you folks serious? "Name calling"& "Put a bullet through his head" am I having a flaskback....are we still in kindergarten? AuntieEmm is that you? Toto?
Where are you.



reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 11:00 AM by cbass
reply to post by marg6043



Yeah there was A man who tried that once. His name was Kennedy.
Turns out they (FEDS) didn't much care for that and had other plans.

[edit on 28-9-2008 by cbass]


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 11:08 AM by cbass
reply to post by titorite



The problem is that they know we are going to revolt and have made prearations for it! They are one step ahead of us. or two or three maybe four who knows how far they are ahead of us.
Mark my words.....

"There WILL be a bloody American Revolution and it will give them what they wanted all along... A justifiable reason to clamp the F**K down on those who are "left" (pun intended).This will not only happen in our lifetimes but my guess is within the next 12 mos.
Any takers?
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