Rense.com Taken ofline, page 1
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 12:31 AM by jupiter1uk
Rense.com's ISP, TheHostPros.com has been taken down by these criminal hackers, yet again. In fact, in order to try and silence Rense, these petty criminals have taken down ALL of TheHostPro's customers' websites.

The attacks against Rense have been daily and sustained for the past few weeks now, and because TheHostPros aren't a bunch of hicks, I think we can assume that the perpetrators are expertly hiding their footprints.

This doesn't neccessarily take huge resources, but it does take an enormous amount of expertise, and since whoever is doing this must know their actions are criminal, they must either feel they have some heavyweight support watching their backs, or they're contemptuous of getting caught because they know they'll never be punished.

Is it an Agency? Who can tell. I doubt if it's done directly by an Agency. It's more likely to have been outsourced to some bunch of scumbags in Azerbijan or somesuch lawless Pentagon satellite puppet regime.

Current reasons why someone might want to silence Rense? Well... There's been a lot about the legal challenge being made against Obama's elligibility to stand for the Presidency, and they've also given an awful lot of space to this Larry Sinclair character, which must really be ticking off the Obama supporters. (During a similar massive Rense hack a couple of weeks ago it was conjectured that someone loyal with the Obama campaign was behind it). In fact it's safe to say that there's a huge amount of quite vile, offensive and often suspiciously inaccurate anti-Obama rhetoric there.

They clearly adore McCain and Palin there.

There's been a lot of extremely accurate and valuable information on Rense recently about deeply disturbing US and Israeli mercenary involvement and coersion in Georgia's illegal attack against South Ossettia (Facts you are definitely not hearing in your Corporate Media, judging by the bare-faced universally repeated lies and anti-Russian memes pouring out of your principal Talking Heads), and of the Israeli desire to use Georgian airbases to launch their planned attack on Iran to avoid flying over Turkish or Iraqi airspace. Rense has linked to many articles and blogs from the region, which I can believe many American propagandists for the American right to crush Anyone, Anywhere, Anytime will not like.

Oh... and there's the Oil and Gas pipeline issues, of course.

There's been quite a lot on the massive build-up of the US Fleet battlegroups in the Middle East which I don't think your media's telling you much about, and there's been a lot of conjecture on what the likely world-wide very, very serious consequences of attacking Iran will be, and who benefits (Like you couldn't guess...) from the devastation and destabilisation of the entire region.

What else? There's been plenty on Project Orion and alternative energy research, the usual anti-gay, anti-feminist bilge, and lashings of UFOs (Of course!) and excellent Recession analysis. (Credit Crunch is such a dishonest slogan, designed to make you think of crunchy cereal and sunshine and puppies rather than the ugly thruth, don't you think?)

I visit Rense regularly because you get a lot of information you don't get anywhere else on the mainstream, institutionalised Blog Sites like HuffPo, TruthOut, etc. The annoying/offensive stuff on Rense I just ignore. It's not difficult to do. People I despise are still entitled to their argument, and even though I may dislike their opinions, if I don't read them how will I know what they're thinking? Hell... sometimes I even have to concede the point to them.

In amongst the dross there's always some gold. THAT's freedom of speech, and it should be defended to the death.


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 04:10 PM by avingard
Originally posted by pegasus1
I enjoy Jeff Rense' website immensely. I visit it almost every day. I have read the warnings that the site is under attack also. Now who would want to hack into his website and shut it down?

A three letter agency? Its very possible but how can anyone know who is "cyber-attacking" your website?

I am asking because I lack the computer knowledge to know. Any computer savvy types that can help us out with that one? Is it possible to know who is attacking your site?
...
I would just like to know which articles are P%#@ ing off the hackers!?!?


Lemme see if I can help. First off, let me put it out there that I am not a fan of rense, due to their constant publishing of serious claims without a single shred of proof. Free speech is a great thing, and I don't decry them for speaking, but they pass rense of as a news site, so they should hold themselves to a standard of objectivity and proof.

On to the actual hacking, their claims that it is a government op is absolute bull. If it was, then it would be done through a computer that had no connections to the government. In other words, they would use a civilian computer to hack another civilian computer, etc. etc. and create a whole chain of hacked computers before they ever tried hacking rense.

They said themselves they didn't know the source (which is bull, they can run a WhoIS and at least find the IP of the last computer in the chain, the one that is actually doing the hacking), so how are they claiming that it's a government op? They've admited their own lie. Besides, don't you think that if they had any proof, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops and getting as much publicity as possible?
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