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Originally posted by manson_322
I hope that Russia deploys nuclear and biological weapons in Cuba and Venezuala , to protect them from the fascist genocidal american Govt
I have seen more than enough proof that Russia had this war planned months ahead of time. Georgia did not start this, The Russian backed SO terrorist did by shelling Georgian villages with mortars starting days before to get Georgia to hit back giving Russia an excuse to invade them.
Originally posted by greysave
Originally posted by manson_322
I hope that Russia deploys nuclear and biological weapons in Cuba and Venezuala , to protect them from the fascist genocidal american Govt
Here you go again with the damn bio weapons. I am starting to HATE you. Your comments make me want to fight a war with whatever country your from. You have an evil spirit.
Originally posted by greysave
Yes everyone America has been bad the last 100 years. If it wasn't for those darn Russians the world would be over now. Russia has never done anything wrong. They never drove people over with tanks in Czech. They never forced the warsaw pact to join. As a matter of fact I see the warsaw pact lining up in droves to support the Russian position.
Originally posted by greysave
This is ridiculous, Russia can sell whoever what ever and that is fine. Everytime you see a terrorist, or pretty much any aggressor, they always have AK's.
Originally posted by greysave
They have a # fit about patriots going to poland, why can't poland have defensive weapons.
Originally posted by greysave
Your arguments are weak, Russia must offset US defense weapons with offensive weapons.
Originally posted by greysave
Why did Russia threaten to nuke Poland.
Originally posted by greysave
I don't see how some of you Americans can even take the position you take besides being niave, and maybe to young to remember the cold war.
Originally posted by greysave
I'm not advocating that the US does everything right, but Russia has a long long record of being brutal.
Originally posted by greysave
I'm sorry it is what it is, and just because they may not be quite as brutal as they were, you guys are making them seem like some angels who never did wrong.
Originally posted by Level X
reply to post by The_Alarmist2012
Somebody please erase these three stooges (Bush-Cheney-Rice) from history before they pull another rabbit out of their war mongering hats
All his miscalculations, wagging and finger pointing only gets his hunting partners and ultimately America... an accidental bullet in the ass! Russia im sure has a much better aim.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
Lets say for instance that they were right to go into South Ossetia (Which I dont think they were)
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
They could have gone into SO repelled the Georgian attack and stayed rebuilding the damage helping the Civilians It would have been a very good Public relations exercise as they could have invited the worlds press and aid agencies and showing those nasty Georgians in a bad light.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
But no they run rampant all over allowing looting and murder to follow in their wake.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
They bomb civilian infrastructure.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
To me The Russian Army looked like ill disciplined rabble !
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
They had a heaven sent opportunity here and they ballsed it up !
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
If I was the Georgians I would have littered those Georgian villages and Gori with poisened vodka. Gallons of it. Preferably a slow release poisen so that they all had time to drink their fill.
Originally posted by Sky watcher
Where do you come up with this malarky? The U.S. did not even sell Georgia Stingers or advanced anti-tank weapons to keep Russia happy and they still attacked Georgia.
I have seen more than enough proof that Russia had this war planned months ahead of time. Georgia did not start this, The Russian backed SO terrorist did by shelling Georgian villages with mortars starting days before to get Georgia to hit back giving Russia an excuse to invade them.
Georgia responded in defence of its country and SO is thier territory. Russia started the last conflict in this area and that is fact, Its also fact that they killed thousands and should have been brought up on war crimes then let alone now that they have tourched all the villages near SO. Georgians are also being found secretly burried in their homes or back yards so there is no sat pics of any mass graves.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
This was a god given opportunity for the Russians to show the world that they are truly honorable and decent but theyre not.
Originally posted by maloy
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
Lets say for instance that they were right to go into South Ossetia (Which I dont think they were)
So in your opinion, sanctioned peacekeepers do not have a right to put a stop to fighting that starts in their area of oversight?
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
They could have gone into SO repelled the Georgian attack and stayed rebuilding the damage helping the Civilians It would have been a very good Public relations exercise as they could have invited the worlds press and aid agencies and showing those nasty Georgians in a bad light.
They did all of the above. Except that the West doesn't care - it has its own pro-Georgia agenda.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
But no they run rampant all over allowing looting and murder to follow in their wake.
There is no proof of Russian soldiers looting (taking away Georgia's army equipment is not looting but "disarmament"). Much of the footage and pictures show the S Ossetian militia looting. Russia has no control over this militia. And murder? What are you talking about? Some armed Ossetians went berserk, and Russia started disarming them. That's about it. Do not confuse S Ossetian fighters and Russian soldiers. They look virtually the same - but Ossetians do not have any codes or an established command structure.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
They bomb civilian infrastructure.
Examples? Russian airforce conducted strikes against Georgian military positions - some of which were stationed in and near civilian zones (Gori for example).
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
To me The Russian Army looked like ill disciplined rabble !
And you base that opinion on what? Whatever the Western media showed you?
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
They had a heaven sent opportunity here and they ballsed it up !
Regardless of how Russia would have conducted the operations, it would have faced harsh criticism from the U.S. either way.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
If I was the Georgians I would have littered those Georgian villages and Gori with poisened vodka. Gallons of it. Preferably a slow release poisen so that they all had time to drink their fill.
Polonium Vodka! Brilliant idea - except that to Russians presence of even a little vodka negates all negative effects and neutralizes the poison. They can eat a kilo of rat poison - and nothing will happen so long as they chug it down with vodka.
Anymore prejudiced and opinioned strategies that are bound to make you look more bigoted?
Originally posted by The_Alarmist2012
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
This was a god given opportunity for the Russians to show the world that they are truly honorable and decent but theyre not.
This missed opportunity is of no consequence, the debate over the reasons, who is right or wrong, etc. will have little impact, the ultimate conflict that is brewing between the USA and Russia will be over energy, particularly oil and natural gas. Whichever nation can dominate the world's energy supplies will have a strong measure of control over all nations and economies that are dependant on foreign oil. Losing that dominance to Russia from a US perspective would amount to losing a war without the Russians firing a single weapon on the US. Cheney and the Bush administration will do everything they can to secure US influence and control over Middle Eastern and Caspian sea basin oil and natural gas reserves... The Russians will do the same... Ultimately conflict is inevitable.
This has been building up since well before the Iraq invasion.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
The only time there is a Brain that resides in the Kremlin is when its either a Ukrainian , German, Georgian, Polish or an Armenian one.
KIEV, Ukraine - The United States is committed to Ukraine's security and freedom, U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney pledged Friday, suggesting that Russia was posing a "threat of tyranny, economic blackmail and military invasion" to its neighbor.
During a closely watched trip to the ex-Soviet republic, Cheney also repeated that Ukraine would eventually join NATO, despite fierce resistance from Moscow.
The strong words from Cheney — the Bush administration's most visible hawk — signaled that the United States was intent on cultivating closer ties with Ukraine and its neighbors even after Russia showed it was willing to use military force against countries along its border.
In an exclusive CNN interview, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov acknowledged the conflict may have isolated Moscow from the international community. But he said Russia would be ready to work with any U.S. administration on strategic issues like non-proliferation, counter-terrorism, and peaceful uses of nuclear energy.
"We are not interested in bad relations with the United States," Lavrov said. "It wouldn't be our choice, but if the United States does not want to cooperate with us on one or another issue, we cannot impose."
Cheney met Thursday with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili in Tbilisi and afterward criticized Russian military actions as an invasion of sovereign territory and "an illegitimate unilateral attempt" to change Georgia's borders by force.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
Just follow the Party line ok.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
And when calling people Bigoted be sure to look in the mirror beforehand that is after you have shaved those hairs off of your fat Red Neck.
Originally posted by maloy
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
Just follow the Party line ok.
Is this supposed to be your comeback? How about actually arguing with the points I made or trying to disprove them?
Calling someone a propagandist is the easiest way out of an arguement that you don't know your way around. If you don't know what is going on - then don't reply to me. But replying like you did only shows your inability to have any sort of intelligent debate.
Originally posted by RedDanDoc
And when calling people Bigoted be sure to look in the mirror beforehand that is after you have shaved those hairs off of your fat Red Neck.
Ah nice. Red Neck? What is that supposed to mean? Insults are usually the last resort of any discussion. if you can't make an intelligent post, than the best bet is not making a post at all.