The Master Mason doesn't know squat!, page 20

reply to post by LowLevelMason

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Glad I made you laugh. Does your cult allow you the freedom of laughter or will you now have to hop around on one foot while systematically repeating the lords prayer backwards?
Actually if you look back at my first post I started with a question. Is there some benefits to being a freemason that us mere mortals don't know about? Unfortunately I appear to have touched a nerve somewhere along the line hence the constant, you were black balled garbage. However, one of my fears of freemasonry has been nullified. I did tend to believe that freemasons were highly intelligent people. . . now I know they're not!

reply to post by LowLevelMason

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"Nice try but you've demonstrated pretty completely that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your question was answered - its a optional club some people choose to join."
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What absolute nonsense. Is there any benefits to being a mason? Answer- its an optional club! Then it's an optional club which you may be black balled from if mummy or daddy won't let your friends use the Rolls at the weekend. Thats not an answer! However, I can see you might not be able to tell me the advantages of belonging to your cult as it might come under the heading of secrecy. If you told me you would get in trouble and before you knew it you would have the leg of your trousers rolled up and would be whipped on your altar!
Have you ever considered getting a life, perhaps meeting a girl, going out etc, instead of performing ridiculous rituals with your equally ridiculous apron wearing friends?

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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I have already told you the answer to your question at least 3 times. You choose to ignore it because you are trolling. For the benefit of those reading though, once again:

The benefits of freemasonry are the opportunity to explore esoteric philosophy and the friendships that go along with that. There are no "material" benefits.

Have you considered getting a life besides telling other people how they should live their lives? Freemasonry takes up 1-3 hours a week for me - the same amount of time your on here whining about how you don't want to join even though no one has asked you to join. Perhaps your time management skills are so poor you can only do one thing at a time (troll on ATS), but that is not true of most people.

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reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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well, aside from judging people's social lives you havn't met...

The benefits of being a Mason vary with the effort you put into it and the members of your lodge. For that matter, it can vary based on your opinion of what a benefit is.
For instance, one fellow's I've asked has stated for him the benfits were being part of an organization that men like George Washington, Voltaire, and variouse US presidents have been a member of. Others have told me it's just great to have something they can do that they enjoy, while taking take away from the family.
Some enjoy the camaraderie they feel with other members, while others enjoy the charity work.
Some would state that you would be able to rub shoulders with well to do or influential members, however that mainly would depend on the Lodge you are attending, and even then there is not a good deal of influential folks involved with Masonry.

reply to post by RuneSpider

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The response to your and my post is going to be along the lines of:

"LOL You call that benefits? Little immature men waltzing around in aprons and hopping around altars, you guys are so stupid and pathetic. I would never join freemasonry, its a stupid group."

Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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well, aside from judging people's social lives you havn't met...

The benefits of being a Mason vary with the effort you put into it and the members of your lodge. For that matter, it can vary based on your opinion of what a benefit is.
For instance, one fellow's I've asked has stated for him the benfits were being part of an organization that men like George Washington, Voltaire, and variouse US presidents have been a member of. Others have told me it's just great to have something they can do that they enjoy, while taking take away from the family.
Some enjoy the camaraderie they feel with other members, while others enjoy the charity work.
Some would state that you would be able to rub shoulders with well to do or influential members, however that mainly would depend on the Lodge you are attending, and even then there is not a good deal of influential folks involved with Masonry.

Thank you for a decent answer. So, do you think there any facts behind those stories of how masons dodge speeding fines or achieve promotion in advance of others? Also, I've heard that the freemasons do a lot for charity. How true is that?

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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Ah, reverse psychology works well on this one. RuneSpider told you exactly what I've said several times.

Nice try though

Originally posted by LowLevelMason
reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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Ah, reverse psychology works well on this one. RuneSpider told you exactly what I've said several times.

Nice try though

Sorry, you had your chance for a decent reply and you blew it. You've been black balled. I want to hear from runespider and what he has to say about the elitist aspects to freemasonry. Have a nice day!

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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Thanks for demonstrating beyond all reasonable doubt how childish you are. I'm perfectly happy with someone else telling you the same truth I just told you.

Please, please, listen to RuneSpider. He knows what he is talking about.

I am sorry you got rejected, but frankly if I were ever "accepted" by someone like you I'd be concerned for my mental health. Thanks for rejecting me!

reply to post by LowLevelMason

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"I am sorry you got rejected, but frankly if I were ever "accepted" by someone like you I'd be concerned for my mental health. Thanks for rejecting me! "
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Said it before and I'll say it again for you my dim witted loon, never been rejected from anything. Sorry about that. I've never had a wish to join the freemasons but I am interested in the elitist side of it and what benefits it brings. There in was my original question which you immediately took offence to and went off on one of your childish rants. As for your mental health? I'm concerned for your mental health as well, and I'm sure I'm not the first one to ever have rejected you. I'm positive your well used to being rejected.

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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The good news is you can apply in 6 months, but its just not likely that if you continue with these issues that they are going to accept you.

There is no "elitist" side to freemasonry - that is a myth you have chosen to believe in. The reality is just too dull and doesn't fit your trolling profile. Freemasonry is by its very nature one of the most anti-elitist organizations on the planet. Its membership is open to literally billions of people. Its principles are equality for all people.

If you were looking for some elite club last time you applied, you probably should look somewhere else. You won't find what you are looking for in freemasonry.

I'm sorry you take getting rejected so hard..but really man, its not a big deal. Might be some mental wellness issues that you need to work out from your responses.

Your true nature has been revealed here, and its obvious to all you are trolling. I immediately answered your question that there IS no elite benefit to freemasonry, and because that isn't the answer you want to believe - you rather believe in lies - you've engaged in a rather comical diatribe.

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reply to post by LowLevelMason

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Very repetitive aren't you? Is that what you have, a compulsive disorder, repeating the same old rubbish time after time after time. . .
One more time, I've never wanted to join but I am interested in the advantages of being a mason. One huge disadvantage of being a mason in your lodge would be having to listen to your inane drivel. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you answer me this simple question;

"How many secret hand shakes are there and for what purpose are they used?"

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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That's the great thing about FACTS - they don't change. I am repetitive because I am telling you the truth, which you don't want to hear. You prefer lies.

There are three handshakes in the blue lodge. They are for the purposes of identifying oneself in the lodge. You can find them on google in 5 minutes. Side orders also have their own handshakes, although those are for the purposes of demonstrating the ritual - I've never seen a side order handshake given even inside the lodge except in the demonstration of the ritual itself. Probably because some side orders have so many degrees that it would be impossible to remember them all.


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reply to post by Manasseh

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the best part about BoyScouts is that they were started by the Masons.
Infact Jamboree Road in OrangeCounty California is named after the great national Boy Scout Jamboree's held here when it was all orange groves and rolling hills.

there is assuredly no anti-God in Masonry in fact it is required to believe in a Supreme being- a Grand Architect of the universe. otherwise how can your oath to each other be vaild, if no one would be accountable.
no i would firmly state and defend Masonic principles as just, good and very open and generous to all,

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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www.sacred-texts.com...

You'll have to count them yourself, I'm afraid, but most of them should be lsited there. Their purpose is detailed as well.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
So, do you think there any facts behind those stories of how masons dodge speeding fines or achieve promotion in advance of others? Also, I've heard that the freemasons do a lot for charity. How true is that?

No, I don't believe there's any truth to it. It may happen occasionally but because that sort of behavior is explicitly against masonic rules it's not going to be widespread.

Yes, lots. Check out www.grandcharity.org... However please be aware that Charity is not a goal of freemasonry but a by-product.

reply to post by Trinityman

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i agree that it shouldn't be the main goal ...i was sad to see that as in The United States that IS the main thing of Freemasonry. I went to a lecture given by Brother Tom Jackson. in L.A here in California a couple years ago and it seems like freemasonry in the united states is charity goal driven, whereas in Europe and the rest of the world its more Esoteric or Spiritually driven.

I was sad to hear this, and i think there should be some reform in the united states on this issue, i mean yea charity is great but that shouldn't be the main goal of our fraternity. OF COURSE THIS IS IMO, and what i perceived from brother Jackson, and it has seem that the elderly brethren have "dropped" the ball and have left it for us to pick it up again.

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