Oh I gotta chime in on this one here!!!!

U see I am a Christian Mystic, and why do I use this label??? Because I followed/follow the teachings of Christ and they led my to direct Mystical transcendent realities, i.e. Spiritual Enlightenment. It was as if I was given the red pill in the matrix and can see behind the curtain of reality.

There is no way out of Christianity for me and many others like myself who have experienced and still do the Divine realities and infinite Love that comes from God.

Dogma has always been around. There was in the year 1054 something called the great schism between the Mystic way and the dogmatic way. The dogmatic way became the Roman Catholic Church which influenced western Christianity. So most of the things you see and here are dogma, but whth discernment you can still find preachers and churches where the Divine Holy Spirit is alive and working!!!!!

All the reasons you've given for the imploding of Christianity have been given for hundreds of years and even famous Marxist communists predicted the destruction of Christianity in Russia and Europe. Guess what!!!!! It's still there stronger than ever.

The stuff going on within the Church is mostly emotions due to music, but God is beyond emotions and beyond music. So people like yourself, the author of the OP, I presume have given it a shot, tried it out, half assedly, and came away with nothing form it. If my assumption is wrong, I ask forgiveness.

But this half-assed approach to God has always gone on and skeptics and doubters have always come out of it. To find God, you have o give all of yourself over to God.....then the doors of the infinite unlock.

And the reason no one will ever be able to get rid of Christianity...... is because the true Christians who are indwelled with the Spirit of God and have Enlightenment...... these are the foundations of what this truth and way of life is all about. Get rid of the skeptics, the doubters, those that fight against other denominations, the dogmatists, the fundamentalists, the emotionalists, and what do you have left over????

You will have a small tiny handful of individuals that are in Union and Enlightenment with God. I'm not talking about faith.....faith is for babies, including baby Christians new to the way. What I'm talking about is knowing 100% through direct experience that God is real as is Jesus.

In this handful that knows 100% that Jesus is real...... that is all you would ever need on this planet to re-inflame the rest of the world into this way.

I would bet my soul, my family, all my belongings, money, car, friends, life that this way will never die no matter what anyone thinks.

This is real life, and transcendent beyond logic and reason way of life. All I can do is love others and have compassion, especially for topics and the authors of such topics as these. It stirs the flame in my soul that I have for the Love of God and makes me realize how much harder I have to pray and speak to people to shake them out of their adamic (naturalistic nature) so they can transcend this B.S. form of life the majority lives.

I still sin, but its been minimized to the smallest of degrees to how I used to be, and I just sit back and let the Spirit of God within me do all the work and point out all the faults and how to continue with the minimization of sin. But you wouldnt understand any of this because those that dont have the Spirit think all of this is foolishness anyway so your in a self perpetuating mental trap.

Everything you said in this OP is relative-earthly-temporary truth. As the great Russian socioligist Sorokin said that these things in cycles will all play themselves out, including what you posted. However my dear friend, the truths and transcendent realities of God are timeless, they are not bound by change, time, influence, or anything else that affects the things you posted about. And these unchangeable truths/realities are the only permanence in a temporary world of temporay earthly existences. So with that said, what do you really think will outlast what?

I thought this was the normal evolution of religions...they always *die* out...except some parts are melded together pick and choose a few other things here and there *bam* new religion....only problem is...with the scrutiny of todays society and the global information etc...its going to be a tad harder for some scholars to sit in a room,write a book and proclaim it the word of a *new* God...The One you didnt hear about...

Originally posted by dominicus
I still sin, but its been minimized to the smallest of degrees to how I used to be, and I just sit back and let the Spirit of God within me do all the work and point out all the faults and how to continue with the minimization of sin. But you wouldnt understand any of this because those that dont have the Spirit think all of this is foolishness anyway so your in a self perpetuating mental trap.

You have an interesting post here, and I thank you for it. Although I have great respect for the true words of Jesus, I do not attach any deeper Godhood to his being than to yours or mine, of course. It would seem that he often implied that we are all what he was... But that is my Universe.

My question to you is... Given that so many things have been called "sin," from adultery to homosexuality to eating shellfish, I wonder what "sin" is in your book. I, of course, believe we are all born "sinless" and have an opportunity to develop, making things better through the Love we bring forth, or making things worse, through a stoppage of that well-spring.

Sometimes life can make it difficult to know how to open that well-spring. Especially for those who start life unwanted (thus the more lives who start unwanted, the lower the percentage of humans bringing forth Love; being as I have chosen to listen to the words of many Gods relative to when the soul joins the body - including the God of the Bible as He instructed in the Talmud - which is "at first breath," in my Universe, there is no issue with abortion, as it lowers the percentage of unwanted humans who most often have issues bringing forth Love).

But Love begets Love, and if we ensured that every child received tangible Love, above all other needs, we would easily have heaven on earth.

Originally posted by aftershocklegend
Sorry it's here to stay. God controls all Governments Including the U.S.A,

Actually Satan controls all governments, including the USA.
When Satan appeared to Jesus in the Wilderness to tempt him, he offerred Jesus all the Kingdoms of the world, in return for one act of worship.

JEeus did not deny that Satan was in a position to offer these to him. Jesus did not quote any scripture stating that God controlled the goverments.

Also too. Satan is called, "The God of the System of Things"
The Bible also reveals that superhuman forces are manipulating the affairs of men.
“The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19)

“We have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against . . . the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.” (Eph. 6:12)

“Expressions inspired by demons . . . go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”—Rev. 16:14.

Given the corrupt nature of all Governments it is clear that God is not controlling them.

that is why Jesus taught his followers at MAtthew chap 6 to pray for Gods Kingdom, that according to Daniel 2:44, would crush all existing kingdoms and establish itself for time indefinate.



[edit on 25-8-2008 by Sparky63]

Moocowman,
When I say to shake people out of their slumbers.....I say this because I had to be shaken out of my own slumber before I knew and experienced that truth that is God. I don't say that my way is right and I'm better than you....if anything I realized just how much worst I am than most people with all the crap I used to do.

Oh man if I was near you and you slapped me, I would LOVE that to suffer for the sake of speaking about God. I would immediately turn to you my other cheek for slapping, kill me while your at it....I dont mind, I no longer fear death but look forward to it. I have no fear not even if you came with 50 of your friends!!!!!

Romans wanted to do away with Xtians because their standards of paganism, orgies, drunkeness, murders, and other regular way of life was comming to a an end = change and people fear change. Same thing happened in communist countries, when they feared how communism began to crumble, they just outright killed anyone who spoke out against communism to protect the old outdated ways.

My way of life is not religion. My way of life is transcendent realities of Jesus, divine truth, God in every breath, every day life, all my senses are multiplied times 100, new mental faculties that go beyond mere logic and reason and calling people yapping dogs. I love all people including you yourself and I would sacrifice my own life for yours if a car was to hit you or your house was burning....I would get your whole family out even if it meant I had to die even if I knew you called me a yapping dog and wanted to slap me. Thats how much I love you.

Religion is responsible for murders, rape, genocide, and everything else you named. Jesus is not religion. God is not religion. People and their ego's do these things not Jesus or the Bible.

That must mean you hate guns because they're used for murder. You must hate science because science made the atomic bomb and we are all living on borrowed time everyone with atomics aimed at each other with egos at the control of the big RED button. Come on man...... check your logic and reason capabilities before you try to blame Jesus for what man & religion do. Your logic here is the same wit guns and science.

If the Bible is nonsense and me being a Christian Mystic, my fellow brothers who are enlightened and everything else that has to do with this truth.... if this is all "a deluded abomination on earth".......

.....then tell me why do I have spiritual enlightenment just from reading and practicing what the Bible says? Why is it still here? Why do others still experience enlightenment??? Why do I love everyone including you yourself after receiving threats and being called names???

You cannot prove your deluded abomination remark. It is a subjective truth only to you because you have failed to "read between the lines." And guess what, according to Sorokin and many socioligists.... your mode of thinking is on the way out.... a new age of spiritual enlightenment is growing all over the world including Communist China, Cuba and countries all over the world.

My friend your outlook on me, Jesus, and Christianity is a dying breed. But I have such compassion for you and your remarks. I feel bad that you have chosen to look at the glass half empty technique to all this .... when the cause of everything you have described and attributed to CHristianity has actually been caused by human ego.

Human ego is what blocks people from seeing and realizing God. The same ego that caused all that CRAP in the name of Christianity is the same Ego you are using to call all of this a deluded abomination.

So can you see your perpetual trap???? Ego blaming ego for being ego and not realizing it. Get your ego out of the way and you will realize God.

You are not your emotions, you are not your thoughts, you are not your opinions and ideas, you are not your comments, you are not your personality, you are not your EGO, behind all of this false crap is something real that you are not yet aware of.

But it's ok.... if you say so.... I need to get slapped, killed, crushed, stomped out, destroyed. If you had your wish, then you would be left with a bunch of people who think just like you .... and in that case it would be a matter of time before you took this philosophy of stomping each other out , and would implement this on yourselves. Perpetual mental traps galore!!!!!