Originally posted by maybereal11
As far as "life experiences"...McCain is someone that served our country and suffered greatly in a vietnamese prison, came home, cheated on then divorced his wife and married into wealth with his second, got involved in politics and did a great number of shameful things to engratiate himself with the "right" people from opposing civil rights to the Keating Five scandal.....none of which qualifies him to be president.

And what qualifies B. Hussein Obama for POTUS? I mean besides voting several times for killing born babies and flip-flopping on every position he's ever taken? Or taking credit for "being against Iraq from the start" even though he wasn't even in the Senate for the vote to go into Iraq and he voted FOR funding the war? Being half black isn't a qualification, either.

Originally posted by Krieger
I love this.

IN COLLEGE YOU DO THIS ON AN EXAM YOU NOT ONLY FAIL THE EXAM YOU ARE THROWN OUT OF COLLEGE!

But since its McCain cheating you Neocons love it. Nice to know you love and worship cheating.

McCain didn't cheat. There is NO evidence of this ANYWHERE. Mitchell just said it because McCain absolutely DESTROYED B. Hussein and since he beat him so badly, he HAD to have cheated. Typical irresponsible liberal media at its best, spreading any and every unsubstantiated lie they can in order to promote the Democrat.

Originally posted by ChocoTaco369

And what qualifies B. Hussein Obama for POTUS? I mean besides voting several times for killing born babies and flip-flopping on every position he's ever taken? Or taking credit for "being against Iraq from the start" even though he wasn't even in the Senate for the vote to go into Iraq and he voted FOR funding the war? Being half black isn't a qualification, either.

Now you are just cracking me up. I wasn't aware that Barak Obama killed "born Babies". I haven't seen it on the news yet. Do you have a link?

"Being half black isn't a qualification, either.

And for someone that seems to feel that the Democrats call racism everywhere...well you sure seem to interject the race issue into your postings on a regular basis.

Bait much? I am not intersted.

Originally posted by maybereal11
You talk about racism as a card that's played by democrats in the same sentence you refer to Senator Barack Obama as "B. Hussein". etc etc.

Your words to me are like the last desperate non-sensical cackling of the wicked whitch in the wizard of oz when she melts.

Oh, boo hoo. I wish there was an emoticon with a crying smiley face playing a violin. Is that NOT his name? I'm pretty sure it is.

Originally posted by Krieger

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Um, when did he vote to kill babies? Last time I checked the Bible agreed with Obama on Abortion. It clearly states you don't get your soul until you take your first breath, the Breath of Life as the Bible calls it. So unless you know better then God...

Please quote the part of the Bible that says you get the 'Breath of Life' when you pop out of your mother. Last time I checked, when the Bible was written, humans had no idea how the mechanics of birth even happened. They didn't know any body parts and what they did back then. The Bible doesn't clearly say ANYTHING about that. Life begins at conception. That's indisputable fact. Anyone that says otherwise is just trying to help themselves sleep at night.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by ChocoTaco369]

Originally posted by ChocoTaco369

Originally posted by Krieger

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Um, when did he vote to kill babies? Last time I checked the Bible agreed with Obama on Abortion. It clearly states you don't get your soul until you take your first breath, the Breath of Life as the Bible calls it. So unless you know better then God...

Please quote the part of the Bible that says you get the 'Breath of Life' when you pop out of your mother. Last time I checked, when the Bible was written, humans had no idea how the mechanics of birth even happened. They didn't know any body parts and what they did back then. The Bible doesn't clearly say ANYTHING about that. Life begins at conception. That's indisputable fact. Anyone that says otherwise is just trying to help themselves sleep at night.
[edit on 18-8-2008 by ChocoTaco369]

"Breath of life" I don't want to respond for Krieger and I don't have time to look it up, but I am pretty sure it is mentioned in Genesis 2 and a couple of other places.

[qoute] They didn't know any body parts and what they did back then. [/qoute]

... when do you think the Bible was written? I am pretty sure that they knew most of their "body parts and what they did", also isn't the bible the word of God according to your faith?....I am pretty sure he/she knows about body parts, being the creator of all life and the universe and such.

I am begining to wonder Choco. How old are you? I have a growing feeling I am having a debate with an angry 11 year old.

You sure have given me plenty of laughs for the night. Thank you for that.
I hope you let go of that anger...it'll eat you up inside. (Don Henley)


Edit to remove a remark I thought better of
[edit on 18-8-2008 by maybereal11]

[edit on 18-8-2008 by maybereal11]

Originally posted by maybereal11

Originally posted by ChocoTaco369

Originally posted by Krieger

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Um, when did he vote to kill babies? Last time I checked the Bible agreed with Obama on Abortion. It clearly states you don't get your soul until you take your first breath, the Breath of Life as the Bible calls it. So unless you know better then God...

Please quote the part of the Bible that says you get the 'Breath of Life' when you pop out of your mother. Last time I checked, when the Bible was written, humans had no idea how the mechanics of birth even happened. They didn't know any body parts and what they did back then. The Bible doesn't clearly say ANYTHING about that. Life begins at conception. That's indisputable fact. Anyone that says otherwise is just trying to help themselves sleep at night.
[edit on 18-8-2008 by ChocoTaco369]

"Breath of life" I don't want to respond for Krieger and I don't have time to look it up, but I am pretty sure it is mentioned in Genesis 2 and a couple of other places.

[qoute] They didn't know any body parts and what they did back then. [/qoute]

... when do you think the Bible was written? I am pretty sure that they knew most of their body parts and what they did, also isn't the bible the word of God according to your faith?....I am pretty sure he/she knows about body parts, being the creator of all life and the universe and such.

I am begining to wonder Choco. How old are you? I have a growing feeling I am having a debate with an 11 year old angry racist.

You sure have given me plenty of laughs for the night. Thank you for that.
I hope you let go of that anger...it'll eat you up inside. (Don Henley)

As you said, it appears in Genesis. Adam was not human, did not have his soul, until the Breath of Life from God. I've always been dumbfounded by people saying God is against Abortion when God clearly states in His Book that you are not human, do not have a soul, until your first breath. But apparantly they feel they know better then Him.

Second, what are the rules against Racism? I know to be a Neocon you have to be a Racist but what are the rules to actually spouting such filth on ATS?

Anyways, I love how Obama is black because he is half black. So according to their logic Obama is actually white because he is half white. Right? My head hurts lol.

Looks like this thread has gotten entirely off topic.

We don't know if McCain cheated or not.

What I do know is that Warren said that McCain was "safely in a cone of silence" indicating that he was unable to hear the questions or Obama's answers and that was not true. Whether or not McCain cheated, Warren LIED. And that's what's causing the problem.

McCain answered the questions like he does everything... without thinking first. He's got a hair trigger and doesn't think before opening his mouth to spurt out the first talking point he can grab. "Defeat evil". Yeah, right. As if McCain is the first person in existence who knows how to do that. If we had a thinking populace instead of a bunch of empty-headed sports team fans, they would realize that someone who is quick to anger and quick to decision is the last thing we need in the White House.

Whether or not McCain cheated, he still gave shallow, nonsense answers that appealed to the ESPN and NASCAR fans sitting on the couch at home.

Remember to click Alert on the crappy off topic post that are dragging down the thread..

Otherwise great thread. It almost looked like he had queue cards.. Wonder if he was given the answers first in those propaganda videos he made for the "gooks". Maybe he was just used to it..


Anyway who would want a guy that GOT CAPTURED to run the military.. So he can teach them all how to lay there guns down and turn traitor?
Also his military experience is from a FAILED war..

[edit on 18-8-2008 by d11_m_na_c05]

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Looks like this thread has gotten entirely off topic.

We don't know if McCain cheated or not.

What I do know is that Warren said that McCain was "safely in a cone of silence" indicating that he was unable to hear the questions or Obama's answers and that was not true. Whether or not McCain cheated, Warren LIED. And that's what's causing the problem.

McCain answered the questions like he does everything... without thinking first. He's got a hair trigger and doesn't think before opening his mouth to spurt out the first talking point he can grab. "Defeat evil". Yeah, right. As if McCain is the first person in existence who knows how to do that. If we had a thinking populace instead of a bunch of empty-headed sports team fans, they would realize that someone who is quick to anger and quick to decision is the last thing we need in the White House.

Whether or not McCain cheated, he still gave shallow, nonsense answers that appealed to the ESPN and NASCAR fans sitting on the couch at home.

Its really weird watching you guys construct these elaborate conspiracies to explain Obama's poor performance. I cant wait to see what you can come up with on all the next debates. You're going to be busy!

Blah 50points

[edit on 18-8-2008 by d11_m_na_c05]

Originally posted by Krieger
Third, he's also half white. I love how Neocons seem to ignore the fact he is half white. They just see the black side and scream about it and ignore the fact he's white.

Uhh, no. It is the left that is obsessed with his race. And you, because you've been brainwashed by the Democrats into believing the "Neocons" are obsessed with his race, when nobody cares at all.

If anyone is racist, it's the people voting for Obama because he's black.