Roosevelt: If you were to come up 395. . . uh, north heading towards the Pentagon, and you got off in south parking. . . you were like right there, 'cause 395 went right into 27.
Aldo: So from where- from where it had headed away from the Pentagon, which direction was it heading?
Roosevelt: From the w- uh, can you repeat that one more time, please?
Aldo: Yeah, when it was heading away from the Pentagon, this- this second plane,-?
Aldo: -wh- do you remember which-
Aldo: -which direction it was heading?
Roosevelt: It was, uh. . . it was heading, um. . . back across 27. . . and it looks like. . . it appeared to me- I was in the south, and that plane was heading. . . like, um. . . southwest. . . coming out.
Aldo: So like banking around; turning back around?
Roosevelt: Banking- banking around, coming back out, turning southwest. . . and going straight across.
Aldo: Okay, so-
Roosevelt: And that was-
Aldo: -did it look like it went out over the river, and- and kind of turned around?
Roosevelt: Um, it looked like it went over on the mall entrance side and turned around; because you've got. . . the mall there, and then- where I was, was south; and the plane,. . . from the direction it was sitting, was facing west; so it went. . . southwest away from the Pentagon.
Aldo: Sou- southwest away from the Pentagon, okay; so kind of doing a U-turn, in a way?
Aldo: Okay. Okay.
Roosevelt: 'Cause it banked out, and it was like U-turning and coming around and coming out. It looked like, uh. . . for those brief seconds it looked like it- it- it, um. . . uh, how do I want to say this, uh. . . it missed the wrong target, and it was going, like. . . out of the way, like back to the airport, or something like that.
Aldo: Oh, like- so it was headed towards the airport, it looked like.
Roosevelt: Well, no, not heading towards the airport; it's almost like if a. . . if a pilot misses good he'll try to do a banking and come around, because he missed the target: he missed the landing zone.
Aldo: Got it. Got it. And you're, you're- are you a hundred percent sure it was a jet: an actual jet plane?
Roosevelt: Commercial aircraft.
Aldo: Commercial aircraft. Okay. So there was another-
Aldo: -so there was another commercial aircraft in the area as- as the, uh. . . the plane hit then, basically. Is that what you think?
Roosevelt: Yes, sir, that's not what I think: I saw it. It was two aircraft. That's for sure.
Craig Ranke: Now where- where did it seem like it came from?
Roosevelt: It seemed like, uh- when I saw it, by the time I got to the dock, it was already in the parking lot at lane one. And it was so large, you couldn't miss from seeing it.
Craig: Right, but from what-
Roosevelt: And that-
Craig: -direction did it seem like it came from?
Aldo: He said it came f-
Roosevelt: It seemed like. . . that it came from, um. . . it- hold on a second.
Roosevelt: It seemed like it came from, um. . . southwest-lookin- the same way it came in, or appeared that it came in, it seemed like it was southwe- (indistinguishable) came in. . . uh. . . almost like where that ne- that first plane had, um. . . flew into the, um, Pentagon right there. It- it- di- it looked like it came from that direction.
Craig: So from the same direction as- as- as the f-
Aldo: -From the impact side, basically, from that direction.
Roosevelt: Everything- right.
Aldo: -got it.