Egads you broke it TWISI! Bad TWISI BAD

I'm sure a mod will be by in the next few years to fix it.

The areas in red are where underwater ruins have been found with evidence of towns/cities and ports.

Where did the data for the little red dots come from?

wow alot of cool resources and material here

We also shouldn't forget that in 10,500 BC the Earth was literally rocked on it's axis, the poles shifted and the tilt axis changed.

This completely changed where ocean basins and high mountain ranges were.

Hi TWISI,

While I'm not sure what qualifies me as "formidable", I wouldn't disagree that significant parts of the Caribbean currently below sea level were once above.

Does this help any?




Top picture is of the present coastline, bottom picture is of the coastline 120 meters/400 feet lower.

cormac

Howdy All

Twisi

"traditionalist" - sounds rather foghorny, how about evidenced based believers instead?

Hollywood

We also shouldn't forget that in 10,500 BC the Earth was literally rocked on it's axis, the poles shifted and the tilt axis changed.

No don't think so HW. Our planet's magnetic field reverses about once every 200,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is highly variable. The last time Earth's magnetic field flipped was 780,000 years ago, according to the geologic record of Earth's polarity. Just become some guys said doesn't make it true...needless to say.

Cormac

Well you are Formidable! Don't be modest. I keep a notebook by my computer of thing to look up, research and notes on things I didn't know, you're one of the main contributors to that list, thank you.

Originally posted by Hanslune

No don't think so HW. Our planet's magnetic field reverses about once every 200,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is highly variable. The last time Earth's magnetic field flipped was 780,000 years ago, according to the geologic record of Earth's polarity. Just become some guys said doesn't make it true...needless to say.

Not flipped, that's something different.

Rocked on it's axis, not flipped.

Recent work by scientists and geologists Adam Maloof of Princeton University and Galen Halverson of Paul Sabatier University in Toulouse, France, indicates that Earth indeed rebalanced itself around 800 million years ago during the Precambrian time period. They tested this idea by studying magnetic minerals in sedimentary rocks in a Norwegian archipelago. Using these minerals, Maloof and Halverson found that the north pole shifted more than 50 degrees — about the current distance between Alaska and the equator — in less than 20 million years.

This reasoning is supported by a record of changes in sea level and ocean chemistry in the Norwegian sediments that could be explained by true polar wander, the team reports in the September–October 2006 issue of the Geological Society of America Bulletin

As far as I can determine there has been no recent pole shift - do you have a source to back up your claim?



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Generally archaeologists aren't doing underwater excavations of the bahamas looking for underwater prehistoric artifacts that they don't want to believe are even there in the first place.

As for the pole shift of 10,500 BC, I am not sure how much modern science has discovered about it, but they do definitely know that the sea levels also rised at that time with the end of the Ice Age. The date of Plato's destruction of Atlantis, The meltwater pulses of the last ice age, and Edgar Cayce's accounts all point to that same date of 11-12,000 years ago



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my two cents on this piece of the debate:

when discussing low lying areas, i have to ask what might be left for us to discover. Consider:

At the end of the ice age there are two theories that are both likely to be correct:

1. there was a cometary/meteor impact on the northern ice shelf. this is evidenced by some of the microscopic traces of metals and other elements in the tusks and rocks all over N. America. A HUGE blast, sending rare elements shooting out fast enough to embed in mammoth tusk and rocks hundreds of miles away. That must have been one HECK of a blast.

2. There was a large, freshwater lake that developed north of the ice shelf, "dammed" off from teh ocean by remnant glaciation. When the dam melted, it flooded the north atlantic with hundreds of millions of gallons of freshwater.

I could image each of these events causing a substantial flood, honestly. Flood enough to wash well onto any continental shores, and wash over surrounding islands. A tsunami of unimaginable proportions. For this to happen, you would also imagine quite a bit of the daily human artifacts would be washed out to see, along with the sediment that it was laying in.

As well, consider the weight of the northern ice shelf on the continental plates. As the ice melted, has it "rocked" the plate on the other side, raising or lowering its relative level?

This thought really occurs to me as i review Titicaca. Why a seaport at that elevation? Why are the steps that go up the sides of the mountain not all farmed at once, but over a period of years? Were they farming up the mountain side as they retreated from rising sea levels in the region? Could this be caused by glaciation/deglaciation?

There is a great event in our planets somewhat recent history that is missing, i think. There are too many unanswered questions, out of place objects if you will, that just don't fit with current paradigm.