reply to post by Anuubis
The 7.62x25 mm Tokarev is the hotter Russian version of the 7.62 Mauser. It will push 85-90 grain .308 caliber bullets at about 1600 fps vs. the
Mauser's 1400 fps. The original smokeless pistol cartridge, the .30 Borchardt is the father cartridge of the 7.62 Mauser, 7.63 Luger, and the
9mm/.38 ACP family of cartridges.
If you get a chance to pickup a CZ-52 or TT-33 Tokarev pistol, you should do it. It's got a bit more muzzle blast the 9mm but recoil is pretty mild
compared to .357 Magnum or even 9mm+P. Surplus ammo for it is dirt cheap. Wolf Ammo now loads hollow point ammo for it as well. The cartridge
is pretty versatile. I load 100 grain .308 Speer Plinker bullets to about 1300 fps in it and they work darn good and just about any game out to 50
yards.
A couple of friends have the .45 Springfield XD's and they love them. If I were to buy a .45 ACP pistol, I'd go with one of the numerous Gov't
Model clones like a Kimber. Just like the heft of the gun as compared to any of the polymer guns.
[edit on 3-8-2008 by crgintx]