Originally posted by rocksarerocks
I posted this in another thread, it really needs to go here. I agree with badastronomy.
You know somehow that does not surprise me
However, that does not give them a "get out of reality free" card.
WHO's Reality? The Astronauts who have been up there and associate with those that would know IF there is anything going on... or a BLOGGER who makes
his living selling books and doing paid lectures like his good friend Jim Orberg?
However, he also believes aliens exist. That’s fine too; in fact, while wouldn’t use the word "believe", I strongly suspect there are aliens
elsewhere in the Universe as well.
Well well Phil that is 'almost' an admission... or is that a planned disclaimer when your proven wrong?
Thing is, his feelings on this have been pretty clear for a while now. But he recently stated them on the radio, which has led to wide reporting on
the topic, like say here. There are a zillion other sources if you care (roughly the same number of emails I’ve gotten on this topic).
Wow a 'zillion' emails... I guess all those zillions agree with him even though over 60% believe in aliens and or UFO's
OK, yes, an Apollo Moonwalker thinks greys are coming here and probing us or whatever. Fine. He can believe what he wants. I think he’s wrong, but
he has the right to believe that.
Good work Phil put words in the man's mouth real noble of you... When did Ed EVER say they were probing anyone? "or whatever"??? Did you even
hear what he says or just toss out YOUR opinion? Well that too is your right... but it also doesn't make you right either...
Two points on this. First, of course, the UFO folks will go ballistic over this, because, after all, Mitchell was an astronaut and walked on the Moon.
No UFU folks will not go ballistic over this... they have heard Mitchell for over 10 years... its the fence sitters who will pay attention to the
mainstream and popular media coverage... its those that have for years used the excuse "if its real why do the astronauts not speak out? Why do I not
hear about it on Fox ABC NBC CNN?"
Well the FENCE SITTERS are hearing it from an Astronaut and their main stream media...
Show me the clear pictures. She me to nonterrestrial-isotope-laden artifacts. Show me a frakkin’ flying saucer sitting on the White House lawn.
Show me anything other than blurry pictures and videos, eyewitness testimony, and black-out government documents. I want evidence.
You cannot get a clear picture of an object with a field around it... this even applies to some of our 'stealth' planes. And just because its from
somewhere else why does that mean it would necessarily contain materials not familiar on Earth? I never understood this logic.
Blacked out government documents is THE ONLY ONES that the government releases under FOIA... We too would love to see those documents without all the
But they won't release them without the black so what good are they? IF there is nothing in them that is 'incriminating' then WHY THE BLACK INK?
The more sensitive the document, the more the black ink...
So if you believe the government is not covering up anything, why do YOU Phil not make it your mission to prove to us their is nothing being covered
up and contact the government to get those ink free copies... because WE in the UFO fields cannot seem to do this.
The second point is Mitchell’s history. He has long been an advocate for what can be called at best fringe science, starting with his tests of
psychic powers on that same lunar flight. That’s fine — in fact I support things like that, if done rigorously —
an interesting revelation Phil Plait also believes in psychic powers... yet that fact is one thing the media and detractors use against
Mitchell... very interesting indeed...
Government coverups of actual aliens? Really? Where’s the proof of that? The evidence is always circumstantial, and that makes me suspicious indeed.
I suggest then using your blog to discover WHY IS THERE SO MUCH BLACK INK on documents that are 50 years old IF there is nothing to hide. This seems a
reasonable request does it not before you claim there is nothing there?
Well in summary all in all a very interesting response... very respectful of Ed Mitchell... a 'guarded admission' "I strongly suspect
are aliens elsewhere in the Universe as well." (this will make a marvelous quote
and an admission that Phil also believes in investigation of psychic phenomena making him just as 'crazy' as Mitchell...
Anyone is free to post this on Bad Astronomy so long as its left intact... (I will post a copy on my site) The last time there was an issue I
attempted to post a response at BAUT only to find that they screen and control the responses.
My post was a simple question to a supposed 3 mission Shuttle crew member who turned out to be a ground jockey part time in Europe... (I attempted to
point that out and offer proof directly from the fellows own web page)
My posts were never posted even though my account is active. So perhaps that is why most of the posts at Phil's site agree with him? Funny about
that... but I will not waste my time at a site that screens its posts... make me suspicious of the motives and agendas...
And always remember if it wasn't for us UFO and NASA/Gov conspiracy 'nuts', Phil would not have an income debunking us
Its interesting to
note how many skeptics pounce on one of 'us' selling a book using the line "If they were serious, they would do it for free, but since its for
profit by writing a book, anything they say is bunk", yet fail to make the same comment about and TO the debunkers like Phil Plait and Jim Oberg who
DO make a healthy profit off this issue.
Thanks for posting this... a very useful response
"While I wouldn’t use the word "believe", I strongly suspect there are aliens elsewhere in the Universe as well." - PHIL PLAIT
He [Dr Mitchell]has long been an advocate for what can be called at best fringe science, starting with his tests of psychic powers on that same
lunar flight. That’s fine — in fact I support things like that, if done rigorously —" PHIL PLAIT