'Two Gays Only Count as One Parent, Therefore they shouldn't be able to adopt':McCain, page 9
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 11:51 PM by Swingarm

Tradition is something that has been altered since the beginning of time. No one tradition has sustained a span of time with out alteration. There is no reason to not shift traditions to include gay couples if it has no adverse affect on society.
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Actually we used to live in villages were the woman took care of the children while the men went out and did well...man things there's a concept. Do you think adam and steve had a child in there hut. what people refer to as tolerance is a code word for except our agenda or your a _______ and everyone thats been indoctrinated into our line of thinking will frown on you. I can tell you there is some active indoctrination in our public scholl system on this issue presently along with alot of other nonsense.


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:03 AM by rapinbatsisaltherage
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some active indoctrination

If you want to make Adam and Steve jokes and wild conspiracy theories against gay people, fair enough. This is your way of thinking and your post is simply full of your opinion, as are many of mine and others.

I don’t know where you get the majority of your notions about gay people or their presence in society, or tradition, or the nuclear family in general but it is clear from you repeatedly being unwilling to address my post to you, plus ignoring some entirely, that you have no intention to budge on this issue despite the research and testimonies of children raised by gays themselves which counter your argument. (If you wish to validate any of my statements please visit the APA link I gave, if that is not sufficient ask for more.) And please if you wish to further debate with me cite some sources and quick the ridiculous, unsubstantiated smear campaign regarding the “gay agenda”.



reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:04 AM by blahblah123
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The fact is that for many of these kids all their future holds is being passed around through the system until they are 18 or being in and out of foster families. I really doubt these kids would mind having two dads or two moms, just as long as there was somebody to love them and encourage them. Isn't that what all humans look for?!

If we are going to say who can get married, and who can adopt or have kids...I say we go all out! No more stupid people, ugly people, fat people, or people without blonde hair and blue eyes can breed. (catch the allusion?)

I know many gay people and they are some of the nicest people out there, they get hated against and know that it hurts others. (The same applies with most fat people I know.) So maybe gay parents would teach their kids tolerance..something that we as a species are lacking and desperately need. If everyone was tolerant of each other there would be no hate crimes, murders, or wars. I honestly see nothing wrong with it, and in fact I think it should be encouraged.


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:07 AM by rapinbatsisaltherage
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Nope not oddly your grasping.

I suppose that means you aren't willing to state what you believe "traditional" means? May I ask, how am I grasping? I find it interesting you would say so when that is all you've done in this argument, other than stating an opinion thats conclusion comes from nothing but your own ignorance and refusal to see simple facts on these issues, and your refusal to counter them with subtance.

I explained this already.

Okay...


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:12 AM by blahblah123
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First off..God made everybody, including Adam and Steve.
Second..It's their hut not there
Third...It's accept not except
Fourth...It's you're not your
Fifth...Its school not scholl (the thing you should go back to)

I'm very intolerant of those god damned bad spellers pushing their agenda to destroy the English language. I feel that our schools are pushing this agenda. These people want others to be tolerant of their bad spelling and grammar, and expect others to simply ignore it, so that eventually it becomes "okay." Learn to spell simple words, it will make your point seem more valid.

If I were in charge of the world...you wouldn't be breeding or adopting.




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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:19 AM by Swingarm

I suppose that means you aren't willing to state what you believe "traditional" means?
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I been talking about it for at least a hour, maybe longer it's been so much fun, time my have passed quicker than I realized


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:22 AM by Swingarm
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Hey, welcome. thanks for the lesson anything else?



reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:24 AM by Swingarm
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If I were in charge of the world...you wouldn't be breeding or adopting.


Well you'd fit right in with the rest of them

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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:25 AM by rapinbatsisaltherage
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Again you ignore the rest of my post. I'm sensing a trend.


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:27 AM by Swingarm
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Well folks time to go to bed. I enjoyed the coversation Rap.
Good night


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 01:44 AM by verbal kint
Originally posted by blahblah123
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First off..God made everybody, including Adam and Steve.
Second..It's their hut not there
Third...It's accept not except
Fourth...It's you're not your
Fifth...Its school not scholl (the thing you should go back to)

I'm very intolerant of those god damned bad spellers pushing their agenda to destroy the English language. I feel that our schools are pushing this agenda. These people want others to be tolerant of their bad spelling and grammar, and expect others to simply ignore it, so that eventually it becomes "okay." Learn to spell simple words, it will make your point seem more valid.



Just wanted to say thank you. I often feel very alone in my frustration which comes from sharing this opinion with you. Regardless, Thanks. ...Long live the grammar and spelling police!
And yes people, I do understand that some people speak english as a second language and try to be more understanding in such cases...
...as for the rest of you artards...

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