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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I have to admit that freemasonry baffles me!
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Freemasons gain knowledge the higher they climb up through the degrees so what do you do when you reach the third degree and find the secrets shared with you appear to be nonsense or uninteresting or alternatively, dangerous? It would seem to me that any really truely inspiring or world breaking truth wouldn't be shared with an ordinary mason who may find it all too far fetched and turn his back and walk away to spill his knowledge to the world press. So the secrets can't be that mind-blowing can they? And if they aren't, what does freemasonry really have to offer?
Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Pike mentions the "Light" being an actual entity or "god" or center of worship that is not as sold to the lower levels as knowledge.
Which God or energy do you see :
1 Pikes interpretation of it as
2 When worshipping the light personally who do you think you are giving obedience and servitude to?
Dont you realise its a religion behind locked doors, very much like the old catholic Masses in latin the congregation couldnt understand and or read or right, and the priests and such like were behind screen and the "secret" ceremony took place their.
If I promise you I have secrets, and hidden Knowledge, which in fact I do that I could never pass on as its orally transmitted anyhow, but If I was prepared to offer you the secrets to some Yiddams and Mantras NEVER published, would you come to my house and Bare your breast, put on a hood, and noose and do my housework and worship me?
Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by Mintwithahole.
That you think it it's possible that it's happening so therefore should be prosecuted or believed to be happening?
Why would I need a silly grip or word to do that? I keep my Masonic dues card in my wallet along with all my other ID anyone would ever ask me to show...
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Which brings me back to a question I once asked a mason on here which was- do you have passwords (key words) and hand shakes (grips) to show other masons that you secretly recognise them, and if this is the case, and I think it is, Isn't that proof that some masons see themselves above the law? Let's say you get pulled over for a traffic offence and the cop who pulls you is a freemason, a simple handshake or saying the right words, and you'll get off scot free. Meanwhile us ordinary people end up forever paying speeding/parking fines!
You have to admit the potential is there for freemasons to dodge the law, and if they can do it with minor offences like fines what else can you get away with? Do you see where I'm coming from?
Originally posted by Mason mike
reply to post by Mintwithahole.
but for that matter, anyone who was in any group, might gain a little help now and then by association. While anyone here will probably tell you that never happens in masonry, we all know it probably does at times, just like two guys who were in the special forces or marines might be, or the UAW. Any group would look out for their own. And trust me on this, not all cops are masons. I personally would not ask or expect any favors from a brother if I was in the wrong, I would actually expect that brother to mention that I should be held to a higher standard. One day you might have a ticket dissapear because you were a productive member of ATS.
Thanks for your response and may the holy one bless you in your struggles. Peace
Originally posted by evemoonshadow
hello. i came across a symbol i saw as someone's tattoo. its a crown with a sword going straight down through it. i thought maybe it was a knights templar symbol, but i have never seen one where the sword is vertical and pointing down. i was wondering if you knew if it is actually a knights templar symbol, or something different?