Ask a Mason, page 26

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by GabeFalcon
reply to post by no1smootha

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Thank you, but are they expensive or do they depend?
Also, will it decerase my chance of getting in Lodge if I for e.g have masonic flag in my room or shirt with square and compass while I'm not a member?

(Also I apologize for these questions I'm curious)

That is a good question. If I were on the investigating committee and I saw Masonic emblems in your home or on your person I would probably be a little suspicious. It certainly will not help your chances.

Now, there are some exceptions. If you have a family ring, or heirlooms, then of course those are acceptable. If you are wearing a shirt that speaks highly of Masonry, but doesn't identify you as a Mason, then it probably wouldn't hurt any.

If I were you, I would just wait until you actually get through the degree work.

Hey... I just read the post!
I was actually thinking to put a Compass & Square plaque with a Masonic bible with Compass & Square and a wedding band engraved with compass & square along with a masonic sword that has compass & square on it in my ex-gf's apartment. I am not a member, but her father was. we broke up, but we keep in contact.
She let's men in to her life and they use her... long sad story it is.
I'm gonna move in with her and support her and renovate that rat hole apartment she lives in.
God Bless America for giving me the opportunity to do so...
Anyhoo... I wanted to plant those items in her livingroom so that the next man that sees it and thinks she's a loner and unloved... let him think again!
Also... I'd fight for her too...
But it's not to win her back. Its just out of love.

But is that a good idea?

reply to post by Lasr1oftheJedi

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I am not a real mason. I am only a speculative mason. I can only learn what I am taught, and then what I can find on my own. I only know that I would never be so pompous and arrogant that I would tell someone what they know.

How were they pyramids built?

And perhaps you can tell us without calling us devil worshipers while quoting Bible passages while claiming to know God's plan for our souls.

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Lasr1oftheJedi

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I am not a real mason. I am only a speculative mason.

When hereon found are posts by scrupulous deviants who refer to Speculative Freemasons as devils...
Be mindful that first they aught to know of the idea that is Freemason!
Wherein within the Craft is this idea?!? I, the Great Pinocchio, doth know!
It is in/on the "Trestle Board!" Surely, the Lord doth know it is not hidden from mortals.
Look for it... for therein will you shall find the idea that is Freemason.
If you can not read it... then your lack of experience voids you for such a time as until you can read it.
BUT! Do not fret. Seek it out. It is there. When you have it... READ IT!
Like the bible you would hold to be your savior, consider that therein is a plan.
Now consider that therein upon the "Trestle Board!" there is THE PLAN!

How you would be so careless as to define for others what they never sought to define for you?

First rule of the Trestle Board... TRESTLE = TRUST ALL! <--- That is the plan!
It works... It is work... It shall be!
As in you when you say as they have always said... IN GOD WE TRUST! <-- A Mystery eh???

Tis I, the Great Pinocchio, founder of fools in folly. Behold!

That you would to use and trust whole-heartedly a primitive text used to define deity as the basis for their damnation is disturbing. These are lords by rite! Respect them!
What you seek is granted to you, but you delight in what you want, rather than accepting what you need.
They apply themselves to you and you defile the house of your fathers with such bogus allegories as you find befitting. Do not seek to know if it offends you to know.

However, read the trestle board...
When you can explain to them the mystery of the tools thereon on trestle... then I know you shall think no more of evils and devils.

The bible has a plan... you believe it to be true. But in Freemason there is also a plan.
You long to know it... but it is not hidden from you. It is granted to you according to your particular requisite of/in faith.
God has a plan... Freemason has a plan... and I, the Great Pinocchio, too have a plan.

reply to post by Lasr1oftheJedi

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Just because I do not believe in the child-fantasy Devil that other people claim I worship does not mean I am not tolerant of other's religious beliefs, it means I do not believe in comic-book monsters.

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Lasr1oftheJedi

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I am not a real mason. I am only a speculative mason. I can only learn what I am taught, and then what I can find on my own. I only know that I would never be so pompous and arrogant that I would tell someone what they know.

How were they pyramids built?

And perhaps you can tell us without calling us devil worshipers while quoting Bible passages while claiming to know God's plan for our souls.

It took me some time, but yes, I think I can. But, first to state, I'm not a mason, so I don't know. But since this is a forum of opinion and theory, here it goes. (BTW, I never accused masons of being satan worshipers, i only refered to the readings on the internet, which we can all agree have as much merit as the opinion and theory I'm about to state.)

The egyptian masons of the old age had a knowledge of water, beasts of burden (ox and horse) and the wheel. Through these methods and a pulley system as well as water working in a basic hydrolic fashion (please forgive my typoes, they are my sig if you will) to move these massive blocks, as well as cut them in precision that could not be accomplished with bronze tools. That's why they're so cleanly cut. Water is an amazing device, and I think the anchient masons knew this. Since they knew men's minds were more than their bodies, they would use the beast to preform these acts. That's why they could make a chariot, which would be the "tank" for centeries to come. The egyptian mason knew the power of wheel and water. This is how the pyramids, in my mind, anyways, were built.

As for being pompus, guilty. Re-reading my post, I must agree, I came off harsh. This is a trait that alot of mason post responses on this forum are guilty of too, though. Still, it was inapproperate to call you all pretenders and boys. For that, I sincerly apologize, I shouldn't have lowered myself to that level. I hope you all can accept this honest apology for what it is.

Still, outside of the troll-like "ha ha, I stumped a mason" statements I made, there were vaiid points withen the statements I made. I won't delve into them unless goaded, as I think we've all had enough of "mason-hate", of which again, I honestly admit I commited, and apologize for (a first on ATS? Maybe that's along the same lines...ignore me! [Venture Brothers...you should really check it out...]).

Finally, through I know you didn't really ask for it, I can tell you exactly what God's plan is for you, and that's eternal life. So, I hope we can all enjoy that together, and am hardly a judge of whom is worthy of such or not. The only thing I truely know about God is summed up simply in 1 Cor 13:4.

Well. that, and Christ died so we may all experince that love...but that's just my humble opinion, take it for what you will.

reply to post by Lasr1oftheJedi

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Thank you for that post. We both agree on God's plan so there is not argument there.

We do have a slight difference between operative and speculative. Being a speculative mason, I teach and learn lessons taught through allegory by my fore-fathers. We build things, but not brick and mortar, we build good men into better men. We simply instill the virtues all good men should have and teach ways of reminding each other to think of those virtues in every step our lives. Somewhere out there, I hope there is information that will help mankind give up the need for greed and live harmoniously with others, Believe me when I say that if we possessed that kind of information I couldn't share it fast enough. We don't know anymore than you do about how ancient buildings were built. We only know that our ancient brethren used geometry and since it was a non understood art by so many, it gave them the edge in construction.

Thanks again for the polite post.

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