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Why didn't the Soviet Union land a man on the moon?

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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by pikestaff

Originally posted by Nohup
Are we absolutely sure they didn't? I wouldn't put it past them Commies to have landed a couple of guys on it, only to have them die there and not tell anybody.


Back in the day there were rumours that up to five cosmonaughts had died in orbit or during re-entry, only rumours, but no smoke without fire, anyway, perhaps that discouraged the Soviets from going to the moon?


There were such rumors of 'secret deaths' [two were acknowledged, in 1967 and 1971] and an intrepid international band of amateur 'space sleuths' dug into them, and over the years determined they were baseless. A fascinating new book has just been published, chronicling their decades-long invesigations and successes.

Cold War Space sleuths – The Untold Secrets of the Soviet Space Program.
Dominic Phelan, editor // Springer – Praxis, New York, copyright 2013

www.springer.com...

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1357069940&sr=1-1&keywords=dominic+phelan




posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: Rabmal

They did land a man on the moon. In fact, America never landed a man on the moon (there's overwhelming proof, even a NASA astronaut came out and said the lunar photos were taken on a stage).

The Russians landed not one, but four men on the moon, somewhere between 1958-1962. These cosmonauts were promised a safe return, but when they landed on the "sea of Moscow", mission control informed them they couldn't bring them back. They stayed on that moon for 4 months. Their space craft was solar powered.

Espionage was alive and well between the USA and USSR during the cold war. An American spy probably found out that Russia landed men on the moon, but couldn't bring them back and realized if they couldn't, America didn't have a chance in hell; thus pulling off a billion dollar movie series called the "Apollo moon landings".

Russia nodded at America's fakery, knowing full well they didn't land a man on the moon. Why would Russia just give up? Clearly, Russia has already gone to the moon. Even if Russia knew America's moon landings were fake, this would give them even more incentive to go to the moon; HOWEVER, they already went and know they don't have the technology or perhaps even the money, to give cosmonauts a safe return home.

It's saddening the USSR didn't commemorate the death of their own cosmonauts. They died tragically in the vacuum of space (the moon has no atmosphere). Imagine being the last cosmonaut to die? Just tragic. They may have been mummified, or if they were within their space suits, decomposed.

The USSR wiped these brave, heroic men from history and may have also executed their families to conceal the truth.
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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: Hudaemcmora
a reply to: Rabmal

In fact, America never landed a man on the moon (there's overwhelming proof, even a NASA astronaut came out and said the lunar photos were taken on a stage).

OK. Could you please provide the a link to that? Or even just tell us which astronaut said that, and I could look it up myself. Thanks.



The Russians landed not one, but four men on the moon, somewhere between 1958-1962. These cosmonauts were promised a safe return, but when they landed on the "sea of Moscow", mission control informed them they couldn't bring them back. They stayed on that moon for 4 months. Their space craft was solar powered.

What did they use for power during the two continuous weeks of darkness that they would have needed to endure? In fact, that would have happened four times in four months (four stretches of total darkness lasting 2 weeks at a time).

Also, the "Sea of Moscow" is on the far side of the Moon. What method did they use to communicate with Earth? Was there some way they could relay messages from the far side to Earth? I suppose they could have done that (used a relay station in Lunar orbit), but do you have details about it?



One more thing: The N1 rocket never had a fully successful launch. Without the N1, what rocket did they use to get that heavy equipment (a manned landing craft and four months of human consumables) that far?


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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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The 'Sea of Moscow', more properly the Mare Moscoviense, is on the far side of the Moon. It permanently faces away from Earth. Radio signals from Earth are blocked by the body of the Moon. How was it that 'mission control' informed the cosmonauts, after they landed, that they could not be returned to Earth?



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