Granted, a lot of people/scavengers will be on the lookout for unprotected farmlands for them to pilfer vegetables.

All the more reason to do things honestly.

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
Those fighters, warships and submarines aren't just going to go away because there isn't an acting political or commanding element anymore.

Something you've obviously overlooked. Those "fighters" are still people, and they are not going to be rounding up civilians when there is no government left, they are going to be trying to find their families.

You've also obviously overlooked the fact that there will be people in the army who have nothing else but the army.

They will not be leaving their posts.

Apart from your family I wouldn't trust anyone, tempers will become frayed, and after time hormones will take play, "hey look at the strong army of men around me and my family... errrr why are they looking at you like that hunny?" no thanks, when push comes to shove you stay alone, you trust no-one and you kill or be killed.

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
You've also obviously overlooked the fact that there will be people in the army who have nothing else but the army.They will not be leaving their posts.

If things fall apart then there is nothing to fight for. I think you are putting to much emphasis on the military, yeah at first the military might be trying to round people up and enforce martial law, but if things get bad that will stop in a hurry.

Plus it also depends on where you live and if there is a reason to fight for that area. Look at Katrina. The military was dragged in reluctantly. That is the best example that we have in the real world that is Amerika.

My plan, my suggestion, is to pre arrange a meeting place with your family. I have already done this. High ground with plenty of supplies. Think resort property. Winter homes that have supplies (canned) and plenty of cover. I am 95% sure that there will never be a situation X in my lifetime, but If I sat back and didn't plan for it, I would be an idiot. A few weapons with plenty of ammo for protection and hunting, a good idea of how to survive in the outdoors, and a few people who you can trust with your life. I will be in the mountains of NC. If the OP needs a place to go, think Skiing. Money won't be important in my opinion, your skills will be. My hope is that we can blog about this in 2040 and still not have to have expireneced it.

I dont mean to sound rude, but do you even know if situation X will ever happen? Is there any solid proof that this is the way the world will go?

I personally would like the idea of a situation x type event to happen, im not sure why, but like I said before, is there any hard evidence that this is what is going to happen, or is it all just scary lies told by people on this site?

Off-topic: I see your a Geordie lad, Anti-Tyrant. Nice to meet another Geordie on this site

[edit on 4-7-2008 by Opulisum]

its just an exercise of an overactive imagination...just what if scenarios... kind of like what would you do if you won the lottery ..

Originally posted by Wotan
New Zealand is 'considered' one of the 'safer' areas of the World. ...

Exactly why is that?

Originally posted by Opulisum
I dont mean to sound rude, but do you even know if situation X will ever happen? Is there any solid proof that this is the way the world will go?

[edit on 4-7-2008 by Opulisum]

You don't need proof that something will happen to prepare for the possibility of it happening. It's what you do in everyday life all the time!

For the record..
SITUATION X does not just mean an alien invasion, nuclear war, or asteroid hitting planet earth.
A situation x could be anything that hits where you live, (Gosh I hate to use Katrina for an example) such as a natural disaster.
Is it possible that where you live could be hit by a tornado, hurricane, forest fire, flooding or a blackout that lasted more than a few days?
Could you have survived the aftermath of Katrina, or Hurricane Andrew, UNPREPARED????
The point is to be prepared for taking care of your loved ones should ANYTHING happen, no matter what that unknown scenario might be.
It doesn't mean there are immortal Mayans posting on this site spreading fear like a disease.
One of man's worst traits is that he is rarely prepared for anything in life.
Don't say you weren't warned.

If our Civilisation comes crashing down around us- then to Hell with people ! Go it alone or wth as few as you can.

People will be hungry quick and when that happens- it will be WWIII in the towns and cities wether the military is involved or not. Surviving the first cull is very important- if you don't, then long- term thinking is only a dream...

Consider the following:

Decide where you can go and hide out for awhile and be safe, even if it's 200 miles. Driving will likely be unnacceptably dangerous in any sort of martial law. Soon after, I believe autos will be prime targets as survivors start streaming out of the cities. A world of dangerous bandits.
Stash dried food, a bladder of water, thrift- store clothes and shoes at locations 10-20 miles apart along your path. I used 10" PVC pipe, capped and ( usually) buried.If anybody asks ( none did in my case) tell them it's a time capsule in memory of your...
Put this right under an urban swingset; it doesn't matter. Just remember that GPS might not work ( for civilians ).
Knowing that it is there will give you a huge advantage as far as taking a safe route.
Driving ( again ) will probably be a suicidal affar.
At any rate, if this happens as mahy ATS members speculate- then the human race and I are divorced. I won't harm or injure or wish any ill will on anyone... but, I'd just like to avoid everyone from there on out.
The lessons from the school of hard knocks have disgusted me enough... this Sit.X would, for myself, be the end.